Jeeps to replace Land Rovers in UK Military?

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Hard to see it as a replacement for the Land Rover - the Rapier is a 127"
wheelbase with a 1 ton + capacity.
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=28&Overide=1

The 90s are more like the same size as the TJL
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=673&Overide=1

but they come with a higher payload, higher ground clearance and stronger
bumpers. Nobody is going to buy the that configuration of TJL as it rains
too much here ! It is also way way too close to the ground to pull 3/4 ton
GKN or Sankey trailer
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=355&Overide=1

And all LandRovers can be washed out by a hose which TJs can't.

Not that you couldn't make a Jeep an equivalent of a Defender at a
competitive price (after all, that's what this group is about !), but this
just isn't it.


As an aside, I like this unused offering, good price as well !
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=591&Overide=1

Dave


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Dave have you ever thought of going into the export business about
$12.000.00 US for one and $22,000.00 for the other. If I could get one in
the states for that price I would don't get me wrong I still love my TJ but,
it would be fun to have another toy.

Coasty

"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
. uk...
> Hard to see it as a replacement for the Land Rover - the Rapier is a 127"
> wheelbase with a 1 ton + capacity.
> http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=28&Overide=1
>
> The 90s are more like the same size as the TJL
> http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=673&Overide=1
>
> but they come with a higher payload, higher ground clearance and stronger
> bumpers. Nobody is going to buy the that configuration of TJL as it rains
> too much here ! It is also way way too close to the ground to pull 3/4
> ton
> GKN or Sankey trailer
> http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=355&Overide=1
>
> And all LandRovers can be washed out by a hose which TJs can't.
>
> Not that you couldn't make a Jeep an equivalent of a Defender at a
> competitive price (after all, that's what this group is about !), but this
> just isn't it.
>
>
> As an aside, I like this unused offering, good price as well !
> http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=591&Overide=1
>
> Dave
>
>
> "billy ray" > wrote in message
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Interesting idea .. I/we would have to investigate the US legislation ; they
don't come with airbags or catalytic converters for a start, and you have
different lighting rules also. I think LR themselves gave up with exporting
the Defender for these reasons, but private imports might come under
different rules.

Dave

"Coasty" > wrote in message
...
> Dave have you ever thought of going into the export business about
> $12.000.00 US for one and $22,000.00 for the other. If I could get one in
> the states for that price I would don't get me wrong I still love my TJ
but,
> it would be fun to have another toy.
>
> Coasty
>
> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> . uk...
> > Hard to see it as a replacement for the Land Rover - the Rapier is a
127"
> > wheelbase with a 1 ton + capacity.
> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=28&Overide=1
> >
> > The 90s are more like the same size as the TJL
> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=673&Overide=1
> >
> > but they come with a higher payload, higher ground clearance and
stronger
> > bumpers. Nobody is going to buy the that configuration of TJL as it
rains
> > too much here ! It is also way way too close to the ground to pull 3/4
> > ton
> > GKN or Sankey trailer
> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=355&Overide=1
> >
> > And all LandRovers can be washed out by a hose which TJs can't.
> >
> > Not that you couldn't make a Jeep an equivalent of a Defender at a
> > competitive price (after all, that's what this group is about !), but
this
> > just isn't it.
> >
> >
> > As an aside, I like this unused offering, good price as well !
> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=591&Overide=1
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" > wrote in message
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In the US the military exempts themselves from most of the "safety
equipment" requirements. I assume the UK is the same.

I am assuming the DC bid offerings are for specific use (i.e. radio vehicle
for the Pickup)

The US is reconsidering the Hummer..... it has proven to be unsuitable for
its present use (urban warfare). Why they are using them instead of armored
personnel carriers is beyond me.

You would think they would have learned something from all those years the
UK military spent in Northern Ireland where if you sent 4 men in an
unarmored LR there was a chance none of them came back
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"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
.uk...
> Interesting idea .. I/we would have to investigate the US legislation ;
> they
> don't come with airbags or catalytic converters for a start, and you have
> different lighting rules also. I think LR themselves gave up with
> exporting
> the Defender for these reasons, but private imports might come under
> different rules.
>
> Dave
>
> "Coasty" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dave have you ever thought of going into the export business about
>> $12.000.00 US for one and $22,000.00 for the other. If I could get one
>> in
>> the states for that price I would don't get me wrong I still love my TJ
> but,
>> it would be fun to have another toy.
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
>> . uk...
>> > Hard to see it as a replacement for the Land Rover - the Rapier is a
> 127"
>> > wheelbase with a 1 ton + capacity.
>> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=28&Overide=1
>> >
>> > The 90s are more like the same size as the TJL
>> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=673&Overide=1
>> >
>> > but they come with a higher payload, higher ground clearance and
> stronger
>> > bumpers. Nobody is going to buy the that configuration of TJL as it
> rains
>> > too much here ! It is also way way too close to the ground to pull 3/4
>> > ton
>> > GKN or Sankey trailer
>> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=355&Overide=1
>> >
>> > And all LandRovers can be washed out by a hose which TJs can't.
>> >
>> > Not that you couldn't make a Jeep an equivalent of a Defender at a
>> > competitive price (after all, that's what this group is about !), but
> this
>> > just isn't it.
>> >
>> >
>> > As an aside, I like this unused offering, good price as well !
>> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=591&Overide=1
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > "billy ray" > wrote in message
>> > ...
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[quote]
"[...] continues the Jeep legend that began in 1941 when the American
Army needed a tough and versatile cross-country vehicle. The result was
the world’s first purpose built four-wheel drive vehicle – the Willys
MB, nicknamed the ‘Jeep’."
[unquote]

Yeah. Whoever wrote that press release (it's plastered all over the
Web) needed to do a better job of fact checking. Dodge was building
military 1/2 ton 4x4 command cars in 1939, and FWD technology was in use
for WWI artillery tractors, and various manufacturers were building 4x4
vehicles for military use in the inter-war years. See:
<URL:http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm>

But anyway, I wonder how they plan to fit 8 butts into that TJ?

I am curious about the "COMBATT 2" (ghood ghod, who signed off on that
name?) and its 10kW AC genset. I could find a lot of uses for such a
beast. The article doesn't make it clear but gives me the impression
that it is a hybrid drive system.


billy ray wrote:
> http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/...ep/index.shtml
>

Moving slightly off topic - check out this:
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=361&Overide=1

Pretty specialised :-)

Dave

"billy ray" > wrote in message
...
> In the US the military exempts themselves from most of the "safety
> equipment" requirements. I assume the UK is the same.
>
> I am assuming the DC bid offerings are for specific use (i.e. radio
vehicle
> for the Pickup)
>
> The US is reconsidering the Hummer..... it has proven to be unsuitable for
> its present use (urban warfare). Why they are using them instead of
armored
> personnel carriers is beyond me.
>
> You would think they would have learned something from all those years the
> UK military spent in Northern Ireland where if you sent 4 men in an
> unarmored LR there was a chance none of them came back
> --
> (Remove the SPAM)
> 2002 WJ Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Helping is why we are all here on RAMJ+W, or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> .uk...
> > Interesting idea .. I/we would have to investigate the US legislation ;
> > they
> > don't come with airbags or catalytic converters for a start, and you
have
> > different lighting rules also. I think LR themselves gave up with
> > exporting
> > the Defender for these reasons, but private imports might come under
> > different rules.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Coasty" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Dave have you ever thought of going into the export business about
> >> $12.000.00 US for one and $22,000.00 for the other. If I could get one
> >> in
> >> the states for that price I would don't get me wrong I still love my TJ
> > but,
> >> it would be fun to have another toy.
> >>
> >> Coasty
> >>
> >> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> >> . uk...
> >> > Hard to see it as a replacement for the Land Rover - the Rapier is a
> > 127"
> >> > wheelbase with a 1 ton + capacity.
> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=28&Overide=1
> >> >
> >> > The 90s are more like the same size as the TJL
> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=673&Overide=1
> >> >
> >> > but they come with a higher payload, higher ground clearance and
> > stronger
> >> > bumpers. Nobody is going to buy the that configuration of TJL as it
> > rains
> >> > too much here ! It is also way way too close to the ground to pull
3/4
> >> > ton
> >> > GKN or Sankey trailer
> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=355&Overide=1
> >> >
> >> > And all LandRovers can be washed out by a hose which TJs can't.
> >> >
> >> > Not that you couldn't make a Jeep an equivalent of a Defender at a
> >> > competitive price (after all, that's what this group is about !), but
> > this
> >> > just isn't it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > As an aside, I like this unused offering, good price as well !
> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=591&Overide=1
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "billy ray" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >>
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> >> >> Helping is why we are all here on RAMJ+W, or should be.
> >> >> .
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Is that built on a standard Centurion chassis?

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"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
. uk...
> Moving slightly off topic - check out this:
> http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=361&Overide=1
>
> Pretty specialised :-)
>
> Dave
>
> "billy ray" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In the US the military exempts themselves from most of the "safety
>> equipment" requirements. I assume the UK is the same.
>>
>> I am assuming the DC bid offerings are for specific use (i.e. radio
> vehicle
>> for the Pickup)
>>
>> The US is reconsidering the Hummer..... it has proven to be unsuitable
>> for
>> its present use (urban warfare). Why they are using them instead of
> armored
>> personnel carriers is beyond me.
>>
>> You would think they would have learned something from all those years
>> the
>> UK military spent in Northern Ireland where if you sent 4 men in an
>> unarmored LR there was a chance none of them came back
>> --
>> (Remove the SPAM)
>> 2002 WJ Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Helping is why we are all here on RAMJ+W, or should be.
>> .
>> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
>> .uk...
>> > Interesting idea .. I/we would have to investigate the US legislation ;
>> > they
>> > don't come with airbags or catalytic converters for a start, and you
> have
>> > different lighting rules also. I think LR themselves gave up with
>> > exporting
>> > the Defender for these reasons, but private imports might come under
>> > different rules.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > "Coasty" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Dave have you ever thought of going into the export business about
>> >> $12.000.00 US for one and $22,000.00 for the other. If I could get
>> >> one
>> >> in
>> >> the states for that price I would don't get me wrong I still love my
>> >> TJ
>> > but,
>> >> it would be fun to have another toy.
>> >>
>> >> Coasty
>> >>
>> >> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
>> >> . uk...
>> >> > Hard to see it as a replacement for the Land Rover - the Rapier is a
>> > 127"
>> >> > wheelbase with a 1 ton + capacity.
>> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=28&Overide=1
>> >> >
>> >> > The 90s are more like the same size as the TJL
>> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=673&Overide=1
>> >> >
>> >> > but they come with a higher payload, higher ground clearance and
>> > stronger
>> >> > bumpers. Nobody is going to buy the that configuration of TJL as it
>> > rains
>> >> > too much here ! It is also way way too close to the ground to pull
> 3/4
>> >> > ton
>> >> > GKN or Sankey trailer
>> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=355&Overide=1
>> >> >
>> >> > And all LandRovers can be washed out by a hose which TJs can't.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not that you couldn't make a Jeep an equivalent of a Defender at a
>> >> > competitive price (after all, that's what this group is about !),
>> >> > but
>> > this
>> >> > just isn't it.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > As an aside, I like this unused offering, good price as well !
>> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=591&Overide=1
>> >> >
>> >> > Dave
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "billy ray" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >>
> http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/...ep/index.shtml
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> (Remove the SPAM)
>> >> >> 2002 WJ Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >> >> Helping is why we are all here on RAMJ+W, or should be.
>> >> >> .
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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very good ! Spot on.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Qu...v4018barv.html

Dave

"billy ray" > wrote in message
...
> Is that built on a standard Centurion chassis?
>
> --
> (Remove the SPAM)
> 2002 WJ Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Helping is why we are all here on RAMJ+W, or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> . uk...
> > Moving slightly off topic - check out this:
> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=361&Overide=1
> >
> > Pretty specialised :-)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "billy ray" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> In the US the military exempts themselves from most of the "safety
> >> equipment" requirements. I assume the UK is the same.
> >>
> >> I am assuming the DC bid offerings are for specific use (i.e. radio
> > vehicle
> >> for the Pickup)
> >>
> >> The US is reconsidering the Hummer..... it has proven to be unsuitable
> >> for
> >> its present use (urban warfare). Why they are using them instead of
> > armored
> >> personnel carriers is beyond me.
> >>
> >> You would think they would have learned something from all those years
> >> the
> >> UK military spent in Northern Ireland where if you sent 4 men in an
> >> unarmored LR there was a chance none of them came back
> >> --
> >> (Remove the SPAM)
> >> 2002 WJ Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >> Helping is why we are all here on RAMJ+W, or should be.
> >> .
> >> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> >> .uk...
> >> > Interesting idea .. I/we would have to investigate the US legislation
;
> >> > they
> >> > don't come with airbags or catalytic converters for a start, and you
> > have
> >> > different lighting rules also. I think LR themselves gave up with
> >> > exporting
> >> > the Defender for these reasons, but private imports might come under
> >> > different rules.
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> > "Coasty" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> Dave have you ever thought of going into the export business about
> >> >> $12.000.00 US for one and $22,000.00 for the other. If I could get
> >> >> one
> >> >> in
> >> >> the states for that price I would don't get me wrong I still love my
> >> >> TJ
> >> > but,
> >> >> it would be fun to have another toy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Coasty
> >> >>
> >> >> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> >> >> . uk...
> >> >> > Hard to see it as a replacement for the Land Rover - the Rapier is
a
> >> > 127"
> >> >> > wheelbase with a 1 ton + capacity.
> >> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=28&Overide=1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The 90s are more like the same size as the TJL
> >> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=673&Overide=1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > but they come with a higher payload, higher ground clearance and
> >> > stronger
> >> >> > bumpers. Nobody is going to buy the that configuration of TJL as
it
> >> > rains
> >> >> > too much here ! It is also way way too close to the ground to
pull
> > 3/4
> >> >> > ton
> >> >> > GKN or Sankey trailer
> >> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=355&Overide=1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And all LandRovers can be washed out by a hose which TJs can't.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Not that you couldn't make a Jeep an equivalent of a Defender at a
> >> >> > competitive price (after all, that's what this group is about !),
> >> >> > but
> >> > this
> >> >> > just isn't it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As an aside, I like this unused offering, good price as well !
> >> >> > http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=591&Overide=1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Dave
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "billy ray" > wrote in message
> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >>
> > http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/...ep/index.shtml
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> (Remove the SPAM)
> >> >> >> 2002 WJ Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >> >> >> Helping is why we are all here on RAMJ+W, or should be.
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