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Old February 13th 06, 10:39 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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"Dufus Systems" > wrote
> You seem to arque that it's ok to charge the customer $300 for new O2
> sensors that they might not need because it's easier for the shop to do
> it than to troubleshoot it.


No, at least twice now I've said otherwise.

We don't agree on everything. I don't want to waste newsgroup space with
more repetition.


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Old February 13th 06, 11:40 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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"Elle" > wrote in news:Z%6If.15071
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> No, at least twice now I've said otherwise.
>
> We don't agree on everything. I don't want to waste newsgroup space with
> more repetition.
>
>
>


No problem.

Haha space! Some of my customers are downloading 10-20 gigs a DAY from the
newsgroups. I don't think our little comments matter much. Buddy of mine
was telling me he doesn't watch TV any more. He just downloads all his
episodes in HDTV off Usenet.
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Old February 14th 06, 02:41 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Dufus Systems wrote:
> SoCalMike > wrote in
> :
>
>> Elle wrote:
>>> Check back for another day or so to get others' opinions.

>> i sure hope they replaced *something*. if they were trying to pull a
>> fast one, they COULD have just replaced the primary one that likely
>> went bad, yet charged for both.
>>
>> then again, i paid $220 at the dealer for the primary one, and did it
>> myself in less time than it takes to change a spark plug.
>>
>> my $99 actron scanner was able to tell me *which* O2 sensor went bad,
>> and why. i verified the problem with an ohmmeter.
>>

>
> Replacing the O2 sensors when you have an O2 sensor code is the most
> commonly done waste of money there is. O2 code just means the O2's out
> of range.


mine said "heater circuit malfunction" or something like that. an
ohmmeter verified it was open, reading 0 ohms.
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Old February 14th 06, 04:34 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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SoCalMike > wrote in
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> Dufus Systems wrote:
>> SoCalMike > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> Replacing the O2 sensors when you have an O2 sensor code is the most
>> commonly done waste of money there is. O2 code just means the O2's out
>> of range.

>
> mine said "heater circuit malfunction" or something like that. an
> ohmmeter verified it was open, reading 0 ohms.
>


Well they do go bad. I had that code once and the problem was I'd yanked on
the wiring while working on the exhaust and actually pulled a wire loose
from the O2 sensor connector.

Wonder how effective they are without a heater? You know the old one wire
sensors didn't have heaters. They depended on the exhaust to heat them
which is why they were often placed so close to the exhaust ports.
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Old February 18th 06, 07:38 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Heater code means replace the sensor. Now the rule of thumb at our shop (and
many others) is you can replace the pre cat sensor, but if you replace the
post cat sensor; do the pre cat also. The reason is the car has adjusted to
the switching rate and comparison between the two sensors, and putting a
fresh one post cat may cause a cat efficiency code to come up later.


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Stephen W. Hansen
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
ASE Undercar Specialist

http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troub...l_obd_main.htm
http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/



"SoCalMike" > wrote in message
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> Dufus Systems wrote:
>> SoCalMike > wrote in
>> :
>>> Elle wrote:
>>>> Check back for another day or so to get others' opinions.
>>> i sure hope they replaced *something*. if they were trying to pull a
>>> fast one, they COULD have just replaced the primary one that likely
>>> went bad, yet charged for both.
>>>
>>> then again, i paid $220 at the dealer for the primary one, and did it
>>> myself in less time than it takes to change a spark plug.
>>>
>>> my $99 actron scanner was able to tell me *which* O2 sensor went bad,
>>> and why. i verified the problem with an ohmmeter.
>>>

>>
>> Replacing the O2 sensors when you have an O2 sensor code is the most
>> commonly done waste of money there is. O2 code just means the O2's out
>> of range.

>
> mine said "heater circuit malfunction" or something like that. an ohmmeter
> verified it was open, reading 0 ohms.



 




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