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Old October 23rd 04, 05:57 PM
Oliver Gunnell
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Default 80 cant rev past 5k

I have a 80 2.0e 3A engine, allthough I can rev to the red line in neutral
I cant seem to take it past 5k while being drivern, I have allready changed
plugs and filters any ideas?


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Old October 24th 04, 12:09 AM
dave AKA vwdoc1
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Is this an automatic?

full throttle switch working?
I have seen some screens inside of the large intake manifold rubber boot
turned upside down?
exhaust restriction like a partially clogged cat. conv?
possibly wrong fuel pump relay causing the pump to shut down at a certain
rpm??
restriction in the air intake for the air filter box?
oil level too full?
incorrect adjustment of the accelerator cable?
bad distributor cap, rotor, plug wires or ign coil?
bad knock sensor?

to name a few reasons or possible causes off the top of my head.

later,
dave


"Oliver Gunnell" > wrote in message
...
>I have a 80 2.0e 3A engine, allthough I can rev to the red line in neutral
> I cant seem to take it past 5k while being drivern, I have allready
> changed
> plugs and filters any ideas?
>



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Old October 24th 04, 10:28 AM
Oliver Gunnell
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>
> "Oliver Gunnell" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have a 80 2.0e 3A engine, allthough I can rev to the red line in neutral
>> I cant seem to take it past 5k while being drivern, I have allready
>> changed
>> plugs and filters any ideas?

>

"dave AKA vwdoc1" > wrote in message
om...
> Is this an automatic?
>
> full throttle switch working?
> I have seen some screens inside of the large intake manifold rubber boot
> turned upside down?
> exhaust restriction like a partially clogged cat. conv?
> possibly wrong fuel pump relay causing the pump to shut down at a certain
> rpm??
> restriction in the air intake for the air filter box?
> oil level too full?
> incorrect adjustment of the accelerator cable?
> bad distributor cap, rotor, plug wires or ign coil?
> bad knock sensor?
>
> to name a few reasons or possible causes off the top of my head.


This is a manual, what I dont understand is in neutral it free revs
and sounds really smooth I can hit the red line with the pedal to the floor

But why do things change under load?, does the above rule out cable and
throttle problems, under point towards poor fueling or air?


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Old October 24th 04, 11:46 AM
Des
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Could it have been Oliver Gunnell who typed:

||| "Oliver Gunnell" > wrote in message
||| ...
|||| I have a 80 2.0e 3A engine, allthough I can rev to the red line in
|||| neutral I cant seem to take it past 5k while being drivern, I have
|||| allready changed
|||| plugs and filters any ideas?
|||
|| "dave AKA vwdoc1" > wrote in message
|| om...
||| Is this an automatic?
|||
||| full throttle switch working?
||| I have seen some screens inside of the large intake manifold rubber
||| boot turned upside down?
||| exhaust restriction like a partially clogged cat. conv?
||| possibly wrong fuel pump relay causing the pump to shut down at a
||| certain rpm??
||| restriction in the air intake for the air filter box?
||| oil level too full?
||| incorrect adjustment of the accelerator cable?
||| bad distributor cap, rotor, plug wires or ign coil?
||| bad knock sensor?
|||
||| to name a few reasons or possible causes off the top of my head.
||
|| This is a manual, what I dont understand is in neutral it free revs
|| and sounds really smooth I can hit the red line with the pedal to
|| the floor
||
|| But why do things change under load?, does the above rule out cable
|| and throttle problems, under point towards poor fueling or air?

free revving, i.e. not under load needs very little power (not a good idea
for longevity),
As soon as you put the engine under load, the spark has to work harder, you
need more fuel, the advance and retard mechanism whether mechanical or
electronic changes the timing, the amount of air drawn through the airfilter
increases etc etc.

So any one (or more) of the suggestions already given.

Des




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Old October 24th 04, 12:09 PM
Oliver Gunnell
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> ||| "Oliver Gunnell" > wrote in message
> ||| ...
> |||| I have a 80 2.0e 3A engine, allthough I can rev to the red line in
> |||| neutral I cant seem to take it past 5k while being drivern, I have
> |||| allready changed
> |||| plugs and filters any ideas?
> |||
> || "dave AKA vwdoc1" > wrote in message
> || om...
> ||| Is this an automatic?
> |||
> ||| full throttle switch working?
> ||| I have seen some screens inside of the large intake manifold rubber
> ||| boot turned upside down?
> ||| exhaust restriction like a partially clogged cat. conv?
> ||| possibly wrong fuel pump relay causing the pump to shut down at a
> ||| certain rpm??
> ||| restriction in the air intake for the air filter box?
> ||| oil level too full?
> ||| incorrect adjustment of the accelerator cable?
> ||| bad distributor cap, rotor, plug wires or ign coil?
> ||| bad knock sensor?
> |||
> ||| to name a few reasons or possible causes off the top of my head.
> ||
> || This is a manual, what I dont understand is in neutral it free revs
> || and sounds really smooth I can hit the red line with the pedal to
> || the floor
> ||
> || But why do things change under load?, does the above rule out cable
> || and throttle problems, under point towards poor fueling or air?
>
> free revving, i.e. not under load needs very little power (not a good idea
> for longevity),
> As soon as you put the engine under load, the spark has to work harder,
> you
> need more fuel, the advance and retard mechanism whether mechanical or
> electronic changes the timing, the amount of air drawn through the
> airfilter
> increases etc etc.
>
> So any one (or more) of the suggestions already given.
>
> Des


I do get your point, but can i rule out accelerator cable problems and full
throttle switch working
as would these if not right affect free reving too?.


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Old October 24th 04, 12:14 PM
Oliver Gunnell
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> "Oliver Gunnell" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have a 80 2.0e 3A engine, allthough I can rev to the red line in neutral
>> I cant seem to take it past 5k while being drivern, I have allready
>> changed
>> plugs and filters any ideas?
>>


"dave AKA vwdoc1" > wrote in message
om...
> Is this an automatic?
>
> full throttle switch working?
> I have seen some screens inside of the large intake manifold rubber boot
> turned upside down?
> exhaust restriction like a partially clogged cat. conv?
> possibly wrong fuel pump relay causing the pump to shut down at a certain
> rpm??
> restriction in the air intake for the air filter box?
> oil level too full?
> incorrect adjustment of the accelerator cable?
> bad distributor cap, rotor, plug wires or ign coil?
> bad knock sensor?
>
> to name a few reasons or possible causes off the top of my head.
>
> later,
> dave
>


I think I need to see if there are any fault codes in the ecu dont I, Could
anybody point me
to a help page on this agian for a 1989 2.0e 3A engine?


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Old October 24th 04, 03:08 PM
dave
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>From: "Oliver Gunnell"
>
>I do get your point, but can i rule out accelerator cable problems and full
>throttle switch working
>as would these if not right affect free reving too?.
>


Most things are easy to check and not expensive for you to do, so why not check
them out? ;-)
Sometimes the simple things can cause the problem that you are experiencing.
Like too much oil in the engine or an accelerator cable that is not properly
adjusted. Even an upside down screen in the intake boot.
Check things out!!! <g>

Does your ECM/ECU have blink code ability? I don't think that the Ross-Tech
Vag-Com tool will work with your 89. :-(
Do you have a good repair manual for this Audi? It might give you some other
suggestions.

Oh and BTW when did you start experiencing this problem? What happened before
the engine would not give you full power?
How does the engine idle? Maybe the injectors are partially clogged??


later,
dave
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Old October 25th 04, 06:53 AM
Ernest
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My guess, a faulty MAF sensor.

"Oliver Gunnell" > wrote in message
...
>I have a 80 2.0e 3A engine, allthough I can rev to the red line in neutral
> I cant seem to take it past 5k while being drivern, I have allready
> changed
> plugs and filters any ideas?
>



 




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