Starforce again

XP/XP Dualboot with a seperate gaming/simming partition will limmit the
sideeffects of Starforce. Tripple boot would probably be best. Productivity,
gaming/simming and gaming/simming with SF.

Jone T.

In article >, "Jone T." <jone> says...
>
> XP/XP Dualboot with a seperate gaming/simming partition will limmit the
> sideeffects of Starforce. Tripple boot would probably be best. Productivity,
> gaming/simming and gaming/simming with SF.
>
> Jone T.
>
>
>

Starting with Vista, you will no longer have the ability to boot
multiple OS's from the same hard drive (or system?) that contains Vista.

Damn, I think I might have this problem with my cd burner. I just bought
some cd-r's from newegg and they were 48x but only would burn at 32x, could
this be the cause? GTR is the only starforce protected game I own, is there
a fix or a way to bypass it?

Easy enough to test... Just remove the SF drivers from your pc (using
the Starforce Removal Tool - available on the Starforce website). Then
see if your CDs burn at 48x. I'd recommend a system boot after
uninstalling

Next time you start GTR, the Starforce drivers will be automatically
re-installed (you will know it when you are asked to reboot your
machine before GTR will play).

If you find that Starforce IS the culprit, it's up to you whether or
not GTR is worth the SF hassle(s).

Well now. That sucks.

I suspect that's a side-effect of the image-installation process it will
have.

-Larry

"John Simmons" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Jone T." <jone> says...
>>
>> XP/XP Dualboot with a seperate gaming/simming partition will limmit the
>> sideeffects of Starforce. Tripple boot would probably be best.
>> Productivity,
>> gaming/simming and gaming/simming with SF.
>>
>> Jone T.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Starting with Vista, you will no longer have the ability to boot
> multiple OS's from the same hard drive (or system?) that contains Vista.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Easy enough to test... Just remove the SF drivers from your pc (using
> the Starforce Removal Tool - available on the Starforce website). Then
> see if your CDs burn at 48x. I'd recommend a system boot after
> uninstalling
>
> Next time you start GTR, the Starforce drivers will be automatically
> re-installed (you will know it when you are asked to reboot your
> machine before GTR will play).
>
> If you find that Starforce IS the culprit, it's up to you whether or
> not GTR is worth the SF hassle(s).
>

Made no difference, must be bad cd-r's.. I wonder what the Texas AG would
think of Star-force.

In article >,
says...
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:31:41 -0500, Larry (The Other Larry) wrote:
> > Well now. That sucks.
> >
> > I suspect that's a side-effect of the image-installation process it will
> > have.
> >
>
> I tend to agree with the "don't blame on malice what can be explained by
> stupidity" viewpoint, but to me it looks like another attempt by M$ to
> "own" our PC's and make it as hard as possible for the user to install
> competing products on the same hardware.
>
> Anyone remember M$ explicitly denying major hardware vendors the right
> to sell multi-boot configuration machines under the threat of increasing
> windows volume licensing costs to them?
>
> All the best, uwe
>
>
>

They have identified dual-booting as a "security risk". Technically,
they are correct. You can boot into another OS and, with a sector
editor, modify system files of any other OS installed on the disk.
Granted, that's out of reach of most people nowadays, but it's possible.

>I assume they've also gotten rid of the possibility to boot off a CD /
>DVD, network PROM or floppy then? Oh wait, that's a BIOS feature, I
>wonder if they'll pressure BIOS makers into removing that feature in the
>name of "security", too. ;-)
>
>All the best, uwe

Your sarcasm is not lost on me Uwe, but your assumption is correct.
Google "trusted platform module" or "palladium BIOS". Whether any of
it becomes accepted/mainstream to the point of "their" intent remains
to be seen. But make no mistake, the intent exists, as do the efforts
to fulfill that intent.

This progresses as per some entities' plans, and Orwell could be
proven correct in "1984", save for the title.

/tinfoil hat off

....but just within reach here on my desk, along with my favorite Linux
distros.

Have a great day,

Brett

In article >,
says...
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 05:09:56 GMT, John Simmons wrote:
> >
> > They have identified dual-booting as a "security risk".
>
> I guess they're on about the security of their account balance. MS
> taking a stab at IT security always sounds a bit funny
>
> > Technically,
> > they are correct. You can boot into another OS and, with a sector
> > editor, modify system files of any other OS installed on the disk.
> > Granted, that's out of reach of most people nowadays, but it's possible.
>
> I assume they've also gotten rid of the possibility to boot off a CD /
> DVD, network PROM or floppy then? Oh wait, that's a BIOS feature, I
> wonder if they'll pressure BIOS makers into removing that feature in the
> name of "security", too. ;-)
>
> All the best, uwe
>
>
>
Actually, Vista is supposed to allow sysadmins to set user accounts to
not allow removable storage media to be used. As for booting, I don't
think MS has an answer for that one yet.

In article >,
says...
>
> >I assume they've also gotten rid of the possibility to boot off a CD /
> >DVD, network PROM or floppy then? Oh wait, that's a BIOS feature, I
> >wonder if they'll pressure BIOS makers into removing that feature in the
> >name of "security", too. ;-)
> >
> >All the best, uwe
>
> Your sarcasm is not lost on me Uwe, but your assumption is correct.
> Google "trusted platform module" or "palladium BIOS". Whether any of
> it becomes accepted/mainstream to the point of "their" intent remains
> to be seen. But make no mistake, the intent exists, as do the efforts
> to fulfill that intent.
>
> This progresses as per some entities' plans, and Orwell could be
> proven correct in "1984", save for the title.
>
> /tinfoil hat off
>
> ...but just within reach here on my desk, along with my favorite Linux
> distros.
>
> Have a great day,
>
> Brett
>

And let's not forget those talented jhackers that can download,
disassemble and modify bios images. Even palladium is vulnerable to user
whims.