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Old April 2nd 08, 11:17 AM posted to alt.autos.dodge
Bruce
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Default Warm car missing (Cutting out)

Local garage did put in a new Camshaft postion senor. Same problem. Local
garage said the car must now go to a Dodge dealership and have the computer
"Flashed" Does this make sense? Any idea what this "Flashing" might cost?
Got a pile of money in this problem and still have the problem.

Thanks!
Bruce
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Old April 2nd 08, 05:32 PM posted to alt.autos.dodge
Ripcord
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Default Warm car missing (Cutting out)


"Bruce" > wrote in message
. 70...
> Local garage did put in a new Camshaft postion senor. Same problem. Local
> garage said the car must now go to a Dodge dealership and have the
> computer
> "Flashed" Does this make sense? Any idea what this "Flashing" might cost?
> Got a pile of money in this problem and still have the problem.
>
> Thanks!
> Bruce


With the car warm when it is missing i would replace the oxygen sensor.


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Old April 2nd 08, 10:30 PM posted to alt.autos.dodge
maxpower
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"Bruce" > wrote in message
. 70...
> Local garage did put in a new Camshaft postion senor. Same problem. Local
> garage said the car must now go to a Dodge dealership and have the

computer
> "Flashed" Does this make sense? Any idea what this "Flashing" might cost?
> Got a pile of money in this problem and still have the problem.
>
> Thanks!
> Bruce


No Bruce it makes no sense because I have no idea what you are referring to.
WHAT IS THE SAME PROBLEM? If this is a reply from an original post you
created you will need to supply that info!! Year/make/engine size.
Were there any fault codes before and now? The garage that put the sensor
on is now blowing you off to the dealer because they have no idea what to do
next.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech



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Old April 3rd 08, 11:18 PM posted to alt.autos.dodge
Bruce
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Default Warm car missing (Cutting out)

"maxpower" > wrote in
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>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> . 70...
>> Local garage did put in a new Camshaft postion senor. Same problem.
>> Local garage said the car must now go to a Dodge dealership and have
>> the

> computer
>> "Flashed" Does this make sense? Any idea what this "Flashing" might
>> cost? Got a pile of money in this problem and still have the problem.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Bruce

>
> No Bruce it makes no sense because I have no idea what you are
> referring to. WHAT IS THE SAME PROBLEM? If this is a reply from an
> original post you created you will need to supply that info!!
> Year/make/engine size. Were there any fault codes before and now?
> The garage that put the sensor on is now blowing you off to the dealer
> because they have no idea what to do next.
>
> Glenn Beasley
> Chrysler Tech
>
>
>


2005 Dodge Stratus 2.4 4 cyl. Auto Trans.
Sometimes, if you turn off the motor after it reaches running temperature,
it won't start until you let it set about 15-30 mins. (Starter spins motor,
no fire at plugs) It will start after that. Sometimes it runs rough after
it restarts, sometime it runs fine. Sometime the "Check Engine Light" comes
on after it restarts, sometimes the light does not. Sometimes the "Check
Engine Light" flashes. Please tell me what you think could be the
problem.... Thanks!

Got error code for Crankshaft Position Senor, I replaced it, but that
didn't help, then I got error code for Camshaft Position Senor, Got local
garage to replace that as garage said the computer might be missed up and
he said he would check the computer also, but that didn't help. Local
garage said I would have to take the car to a Dodge dealership to have the
computer "Flashed", that was done, but car is still doing the same problem.
(Missing, Check Engine Light comes on after a few miles) Any ideas?

Thanks for any help!
Bruce
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Old April 4th 08, 01:03 AM posted to alt.autos.dodge
maxpower
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Default Warm car missing (Cutting out)


"Bruce" > wrote in message
. 70...
> "maxpower" > wrote in
> :
>
> >
> > "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > . 70...
> >> Local garage did put in a new Camshaft postion senor. Same problem.
> >> Local garage said the car must now go to a Dodge dealership and have
> >> the

> > computer
> >> "Flashed" Does this make sense? Any idea what this "Flashing" might
> >> cost? Got a pile of money in this problem and still have the problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Bruce

> >
> > No Bruce it makes no sense because I have no idea what you are
> > referring to. WHAT IS THE SAME PROBLEM? If this is a reply from an
> > original post you created you will need to supply that info!!
> > Year/make/engine size. Were there any fault codes before and now?
> > The garage that put the sensor on is now blowing you off to the dealer
> > because they have no idea what to do next.
> >
> > Glenn Beasley
> > Chrysler Tech
> >
> >
> >

>
> 2005 Dodge Stratus 2.4 4 cyl. Auto Trans.
> Sometimes, if you turn off the motor after it reaches running temperature,
> it won't start until you let it set about 15-30 mins. (Starter spins

motor,
> no fire at plugs) It will start after that. Sometimes it runs rough after
> it restarts, sometime it runs fine. Sometime the "Check Engine Light"

comes
> on after it restarts, sometimes the light does not. Sometimes the "Check
> Engine Light" flashes. Please tell me what you think could be the
> problem.... Thanks!
>
> Got error code for Crankshaft Position Senor, I replaced it, but that
> didn't help, then I got error code for Camshaft Position Senor, Got local
> garage to replace that as garage said the computer might be missed up and
> he said he would check the computer also, but that didn't help. Local
> garage said I would have to take the car to a Dodge dealership to have the
> computer "Flashed", that was done, but car is still doing the same

problem.
> (Missing, Check Engine Light comes on after a few miles) Any ideas?
>
> Thanks for any help!
> Bruce


On a problem such as the one you are having you may want to take it to the
dealer and have them connect the co-pilot to the vehicle. It is a tool that
will record so many seconds before and after the problem occurs when the
trigger is set to fault code. The data is then downloaded to be see what
the possible cause was. There is a TSB out for this to reflash the
controller but only if there is a fault for the crankshaft sensor. If what
you are saying is true and there is also a cam sensor fault you may have a
wiring issue or a faulty PCM. If this vehicle is still within 8/80 the
reflash and or replacement of the PCM would be covered under the Federal
Emissions law.
The cam and crank sensor share the same ground and the same 5 volt feed. You
could hard wire the circuit by running new wires to these sensors, the A/C
pressure transducer shares the same 5 volts feed as both The cam and crank
sensor. If this transducer shorts out and pulls down the volt signal you
would get both fault codes set. Disconnect the A/C pressure transducer and
continue to drive the vehicle to see if the problem is gone. It should be
located on the high side A/C hose.

Good luck

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech


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Old April 4th 08, 02:50 AM posted to alt.autos.dodge
Ron Seiden
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Default Warm car missing (Cutting out)

Reliable rule of thumb: if the problem appears when the engine warms up,
it's something electronic. Since sensors are lots cheaper than the brain,
start there...

"Ripcord" > wrote in message
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>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> . 70...
>> Local garage did put in a new Camshaft postion senor. Same problem. Local
>> garage said the car must now go to a Dodge dealership and have the
>> computer
>> "Flashed" Does this make sense? Any idea what this "Flashing" might cost?
>> Got a pile of money in this problem and still have the problem.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Bruce

>
> With the car warm when it is missing i would replace the oxygen sensor.
>



 




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