93 caravan se 3L 3spd auto-trans removal-RIGHT NOW

tires are off
ready to rip the trans axles out
removing lines and hoses etc
got the tranny supported etc...starting to remove accessible bolts

Q- how much has to come down?
should i start removing the stablizer bar?
what about the rest of the supsension?
it doesnt look too hard, maybe dropping the front bolts and bringing it down
a bit etc, it would save time and trouble

I should think that dropping the front motor mount would give me more room
to manuever. I could take everything apart and put it all back together but
would like to save some time...and maybe get a reply first

taking a lunch break
thanks

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:22:40 GMT, "mat_jones" >
wrote:

>tires are off
>ready to rip the trans axles out
>removing lines and hoses etc
>got the tranny supported etc...starting to remove accessible bolts
>
>Q- how much has to come down?
>should i start removing the stablizer bar?
>what about the rest of the supsension?
>it doesnt look too hard, maybe dropping the front bolts and bringing it down
>a bit etc, it would save time and trouble
>
>I should think that dropping the front motor mount would give me more room
>to manuever. I could take everything apart and put it all back together but
>would like to save some time...and maybe get a reply first
>
>taking a lunch break
>thanks

fwiw, back in the day when the SO still drove a Voyager 3L auto, at around 90K
miles when the trannie was replaced (under the "double-secret warranty") the
shop removed the front motor mount. So I imagine that's the way to go.

That said, don't forget to *reinstall* that front motor mount bolt. The shop
forgot, and after picking the van up when they were "done" with it, it
traveled all of about 6 miles before catastrophic failure of the transaxle
occurred: after stopping at a red light, pulling away put enough twist in the
engine/transaxle that the left side drive shaft actually *broke the transaxle
case*! Resulting in a whole new trannie being installed by the shop, gratis...

/daytripper
'05 Hemi Durango Ltd

"mat_jones" > wrote in message
news:Qnthj.50995$uV6.30694@pd7urf1no...
> tires are off
> ready to rip the trans axles out
> removing lines and hoses etc
> got the tranny supported etc...starting to remove accessible bolts
>
> Q- how much has to come down?
> should i start removing the stablizer bar?
> what about the rest of the supsension?
> it doesnt look too hard, maybe dropping the front bolts and bringing it
> down a bit etc, it would save time and trouble
>
> I should think that dropping the front motor mount would give me more room
> to manuever. I could take everything apart and put it all back together
> but would like to save some time...and maybe get a reply first
>
> taking a lunch break
> thanks
>
Remove the starter, remove the torque converter splash guard, remove the
torque converter bolts attaching it to the flex plate. Make sure you plase a
support under the motor at the oil pan, keeping the motor level. Remove the
nut on the ends of the wheel hub, remove the 2 bolt on the bottom of the
struts and disconnect them from the supsension and swing the hub assembly
out and remove the axle from the hub. Now you can remove the axles from the
transmission by prying with a large screwdriver. You have 3 supports on the
transmission, 2 on each side of the bell housing and 1 behide the driver
side tire. Make sure you remove the supports completely so you will have
enough room to move the transmission around. Hope you have removed everthing
from the top of the motor. Now place a floor jack under the transmisson,
remove the bolt holding the transmission to the motor, push the transmission
towards the driverside which should provide enough room to lower it down
slowly and wath for any wires you may have forgot. If you think you can get
the transmission out with out remove the supports completely do it but when
you are ready to put it back in it is a lot easier to do it with out them
on.

i forgot one bolt on the torque converter...it was dark under there and i
was just reefing around on the tranny wondering why the heck it wasnt
dropping ???!
duh...



"Ripcord" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "mat_jones" > wrote in message
> news:Qnthj.50995$uV6.30694@pd7urf1no...
>> tires are off
>> ready to rip the trans axles out
>> removing lines and hoses etc
>> got the tranny supported etc...starting to remove accessible bolts
>>
>> Q- how much has to come down?
>> should i start removing the stablizer bar?
>> what about the rest of the supsension?
>> it doesnt look too hard, maybe dropping the front bolts and bringing it
>> down a bit etc, it would save time and trouble
>>
>> I should think that dropping the front motor mount would give me more
>> room to manuever. I could take everything apart and put it all back
>> together but would like to save some time...and maybe get a reply first
>>
>> taking a lunch break
>> thanks
>>
> Remove the starter, remove the torque converter splash guard, remove the
> torque converter bolts attaching it to the flex plate. Make sure you plase
> a support under the motor at the oil pan, keeping the motor level. Remove
> the nut on the ends of the wheel hub, remove the 2 bolt on the bottom of
> the struts and disconnect them from the supsension and swing the hub
> assembly out and remove the axle from the hub. Now you can remove the
> axles from the transmission by prying with a large screwdriver. You have 3
> supports on the transmission, 2 on each side of the bell housing and 1
> behide the driver side tire. Make sure you remove the supports completely
> so you will have enough room to move the transmission around. Hope you
> have removed everthing from the top of the motor. Now place a floor jack
> under the transmisson, remove the bolt holding the transmission to the
> motor, push the transmission towards the driverside which should provide
> enough room to lower it down slowly and wath for any wires you may have
> forgot. If you think you can get the transmission out with out remove the
> supports completely do it but when you are ready to put it back in it is a
> lot easier to do it with out them on.
>

On Jan 10, 4:24*pm, "mat_jones" > wrote:
> i forgot one bolt on the torque converter...it was dark under there and i
> was just reefing around on the tranny wondering why the heck it wasnt
> dropping ???!
> duh...
>
> "Ripcord" > wrote in message
>
> . ..
>
>
>
>
>
> > "mat_jones" > wrote in message
> >news:Qnthj.50995$uV6.30694@pd7urf1no...
> >> tires are off
> >> ready to rip the trans axles out
> >> removing lines and hoses etc
> >> got the tranny supported etc...starting to remove accessible bolts
>
> >> Q- how much has to come down?
> >> should i start removing the stablizer bar?
> >> what about the rest of the supsension?
> >> it doesnt look too hard, maybe dropping the front bolts and bringing it
> >> down a bit etc, it would save time and trouble
>
> >> I should think that dropping the front motor mount would give me more
> >> room to manuever. *I could take everything apart and put it all back
> >> together but would like to save some time...and maybe get a reply first
>
> >> taking a lunch break
> >> thanks
>
> > Remove the starter, remove the torque converter splash guard, remove the
> > torque converter bolts attaching it to the flex plate. Make sure you plase
> > a support under the motor at the oil pan, keeping the motor level. Remove
> > the nut on the ends of the wheel hub, remove the 2 bolt on the bottom of
> > the struts and disconnect them from the supsension and swing the hub
> > assembly out and remove the axle from the hub. Now you can remove the
> > axles from the transmission by prying with a large screwdriver. You have 3
> > supports on the transmission, 2 on each side of the bell housing and 1
> > behide the driver side tire. Make sure you remove the supports completely
> > so you will have enough room to move the transmission around. Hope you
> > have removed everthing from the top of the motor. Now place a floor jack
> > under the transmisson, remove the bolt holding the transmission to the
> > motor, push the transmission towards the driverside which should provide
> > enough room to lower it down slowly and wath for any wires you may have
> > forgot. If you think you can get the transmission out with out remove the
> > supports completely do it but when you are ready to put it back in it is a
> > lot easier to do it with out them on.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

that is the easy trans to remove it should not take any more then an
hour to remove

well it took a couple hours for i am merely a neophyte

one thing i would like to know is why why why is it always the last socket?
everytime i look for a certain one, its always the last one i pick up?
i was searching for an answer in string theory but that math is too
complicated. perhaps it has something to do with the schroedinger equation?




"truckdriver" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 10, 4:24 pm, "mat_jones" > wrote:
> i forgot one bolt on the torque converter...it was dark under there and i
> was just reefing around on the tranny wondering why the heck it wasnt
> dropping ???!
> duh...
>
> "Ripcord" > wrote in message
>
> . ..
>
>
>
>
>
> > "mat_jones" > wrote in message
> >news:Qnthj.50995$uV6.30694@pd7urf1no...
> >> tires are off
> >> ready to rip the trans axles out
> >> removing lines and hoses etc
> >> got the tranny supported etc...starting to remove accessible bolts
>
> >> Q- how much has to come down?
> >> should i start removing the stablizer bar?
> >> what about the rest of the supsension?
> >> it doesnt look too hard, maybe dropping the front bolts and bringing it
> >> down a bit etc, it would save time and trouble
>
> >> I should think that dropping the front motor mount would give me more
> >> room to manuever. I could take everything apart and put it all back
> >> together but would like to save some time...and maybe get a reply first
>
> >> taking a lunch break
> >> thanks
>
> > Remove the starter, remove the torque converter splash guard, remove the
> > torque converter bolts attaching it to the flex plate. Make sure you
> > plase
> > a support under the motor at the oil pan, keeping the motor level.
> > Remove
> > the nut on the ends of the wheel hub, remove the 2 bolt on the bottom of
> > the struts and disconnect them from the supsension and swing the hub
> > assembly out and remove the axle from the hub. Now you can remove the
> > axles from the transmission by prying with a large screwdriver. You have
> > 3
> > supports on the transmission, 2 on each side of the bell housing and 1
> > behide the driver side tire. Make sure you remove the supports
> > completely
> > so you will have enough room to move the transmission around. Hope you
> > have removed everthing from the top of the motor. Now place a floor jack
> > under the transmisson, remove the bolt holding the transmission to the
> > motor, push the transmission towards the driverside which should provide
> > enough room to lower it down slowly and wath for any wires you may have
> > forgot. If you think you can get the transmission out with out remove
> > the
> > supports completely do it but when you are ready to put it back in it is
> > a
> > lot easier to do it with out them on.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

that is the easy trans to remove it should not take any more then an
hour to remove

It all has to do with Murphy's Law!

"mat_jones" > wrote in message
news:wR4ij.55635$EA5.35110@pd7urf2no...
> well it took a couple hours for i am merely a neophyte
>
> one thing i would like to know is why why why is it always the last
> socket?
> everytime i look for a certain one, its always the last one i pick up?
> i was searching for an answer in string theory but that math is too
> complicated. perhaps it has something to do with the schroedinger
> equation?
>
>
>
>
> "truckdriver" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Jan 10, 4:24 pm, "mat_jones" > wrote:
>> i forgot one bolt on the torque converter...it was dark under there and i
>> was just reefing around on the tranny wondering why the heck it wasnt
>> dropping ???!
>> duh...
>>
>> "Ripcord" > wrote in message
>>
>> . ..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "mat_jones" > wrote in message
>> >news:Qnthj.50995$uV6.30694@pd7urf1no...
>> >> tires are off
>> >> ready to rip the trans axles out
>> >> removing lines and hoses etc
>> >> got the tranny supported etc...starting to remove accessible bolts
>>
>> >> Q- how much has to come down?
>> >> should i start removing the stablizer bar?
>> >> what about the rest of the supsension?
>> >> it doesnt look too hard, maybe dropping the front bolts and bringing
>> >> it
>> >> down a bit etc, it would save time and trouble
>>
>> >> I should think that dropping the front motor mount would give me more
>> >> room to manuever. I could take everything apart and put it all back
>> >> together but would like to save some time...and maybe get a reply
>> >> first
>>
>> >> taking a lunch break
>> >> thanks
>>
>> > Remove the starter, remove the torque converter splash guard, remove
>> > the
>> > torque converter bolts attaching it to the flex plate. Make sure you
>> > plase
>> > a support under the motor at the oil pan, keeping the motor level.
>> > Remove
>> > the nut on the ends of the wheel hub, remove the 2 bolt on the bottom
>> > of
>> > the struts and disconnect them from the supsension and swing the hub
>> > assembly out and remove the axle from the hub. Now you can remove the
>> > axles from the transmission by prying with a large screwdriver. You
>> > have 3
>> > supports on the transmission, 2 on each side of the bell housing and 1
>> > behide the driver side tire. Make sure you remove the supports
>> > completely
>> > so you will have enough room to move the transmission around. Hope you
>> > have removed everthing from the top of the motor. Now place a floor
>> > jack
>> > under the transmisson, remove the bolt holding the transmission to the
>> > motor, push the transmission towards the driverside which should
>> > provide
>> > enough room to lower it down slowly and wath for any wires you may have
>> > forgot. If you think you can get the transmission out with out remove
>> > the
>> > supports completely do it but when you are ready to put it back in it
>> > is a
>> > lot easier to do it with out them on.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> that is the easy trans to remove it should not take any more then an
> hour to remove
>

> one thing i would like to know is why why why is it always the last
> socket?
> everytime i look for a certain one, its always the last one i pick up?


Why would you keep searching for a socket once you found the one you were
looking for? It should always be the last one you pick up. *shrug*



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