Roll Bars???

Larry wrote:
>Leon van Dommelen wrote:
>>>How does that happen? When we're in the car, we never see the roll
>>>bar, and it
>>>has no noticeable effect on air flow,so how does it decrease your
>>>"feeling of
>>>freedom"?
>>
>>Some of us have a mental image of our surroundings even if we are
>>not looking
>>at it.
>
> Aah, very zen. 8
>

Zen and the Art of Miata Maintenance? <g>

Iva & Vixen
2004 Classic Red
No moe winkin' Miata

Lanny Chambers wrote:

> I considered it, so I could take my car to track days that require them.
> But my wife feels a rollbar would ruin the feeling of freedom for which
> we bought the car, and she's right. My brother's Miata has a rollbar,
> and I hate riding in it. Driving it is uncomfortable at best.
>
> Miata rollovers are quite rare, and always seem to follow running off
> the pavement into a ditch. You're a lot more likely to get rearended, in
> which case the rollbar could kill you. Even the best rollbar padding is
> designed to work in conjunction with a helmet and a 5-point harness.
> Bareheaded, you're risking a skull fracture.
>
> If you don't think the rollbar will smack your head, you haven't watched
> enough crash dummy videos.


Matt Erdmann was certainly lucky. Not only did being rear-ended with a
rollbar installed and no helmet not throw him into the bar crash-test
dummy style, it also probably saved his life when the car was flipped
over by the crash.

http://www.bethania-garage.com/testimonials.htm

The 10AE on the testimonial page rolled over (on the street with no
helmet), after drifting up a wall rather than into a ditch. This on a
road that I have driven hundreds of times. Again, no smacking of the
head, the driver was ok.

The first modification I will do to any NA or NB that I buy.

Pat

If one doesn't feel handy enough to take on such a task, would a Mazda
dealer be able to install one??Would they??

Or whom else would one look for??

On 2007-07-20, S K > wrote:

> If one doesn't feel handy enough to take on such a task, would
> a Mazda dealer be able to install one?

The dealer I'm familiar with would certainly not be capable of
doing such a job.

> Would they?
>
> Or whom else would one look for?

I know who I'd ask in Minneapolis...

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(S K) wrote:

> If one doesn't feel handy enough to take on such a task, would a
> Mazda dealer be able to install one??Would they??
>
> Or whom else would one look for??

The vendor might be able to recommend a place.



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Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2007-07-20, S K > wrote:
>
>
>>If one doesn't feel handy enough to take on such a task, would
>>a Mazda dealer be able to install one?
>
>
> The dealer I'm familiar with would certainly not be capable of
> doing such a job.
>
>
>>Would they?
>>
>>Or whom else would one look for?
>
>
> I know who I'd ask in Minneapolis...

I can help in Austin, either doing the job or a recommendation.

Where are you located, SK? The nearest miata club will be able to point
you in the right direction.

Pat

On Jul 19, 8:20 pm, pws > wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
> > On 2007-07-20, S K > wrote:
>
> >>If one doesn't feel handy enough to take on such a task, would
> >>a Mazda dealer be able to install one?
>
> > The dealer I'm familiar with would certainly not be capable of
> > doing such a job.
>
> >>Would they?
>
> >>Or whom else would one look for?
>
> > I know who I'd ask in Minneapolis...
>
> I can help in Austin, either doing the job or a recommendation.
>
> Where are you located, SK? The nearest miata club will be able to point
> you in the right direction.
>
> Pat

I am here in Solano County, Calif. And thanks for that suggestion,
cause there is a local miata club nearby that I forgot about. I will
email them. Thanlks again.

Jazz_Azz wrote:

> I am here in Solano County, Calif. And thanks for that suggestion,
> cause there is a local miata club nearby that I forgot about. I will
> email them. Thanlks again.

Np, it really is not that big a job. With some sharp drill bits and a
good set of jack/jack stands it goes very fast. The hardest parts are
trimming the interior panels and altering the boot if you use one.

There is a mechanic in the Austin area who can probably install these in
his sleep by now, and he used to charge $180.00 to install one, though I
don't know if that included trimming the interior panels and it has
probably gone up a bit in price.
There is no way it included any work on the boot at that cost.

Good luck!

Pat

pws > wrote:

> The first modification I will do to any NA or NB that I buy.

What a sissy! Everyone knows roll bars aren't needed for hard headed
Texans... <GD&R>




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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:12:41 -0700, Jazz_Azz > wrote:

>> Where are you located, SK? The nearest miata club will be able to point
>> you in the right direction.
>
>I am here in Solano County, Calif. And thanks for that suggestion,
>cause there is a local miata club nearby that I forgot about. I will
>email them.

They should be able to point you to a local race car shop which does such tasks
routinely.

-- Larry