Sub-$1000 Sim Rig Suggestions?

OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel
Memory Kit

my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is PC2-6400 (as
above)

Cheers
==--==


"Plowboy" > wrote in message
...
> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that... dang. I
> guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did you buy?
> ((suggestions)).
>
> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400... <G>.
> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running at
>> 667) now
>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases
>>
>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and ddr2
>> 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput
>>
>> Cheers
>> ==--==
>>
>>
>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> 3200, is that ddr 400? that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you go
>>> from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> HEY.. ==__==,
>>>>>
>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then? I been trying to google any
>>>>> information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much difference,
>>>>> maybe it does though. but my next purchase is gonna be a LCD
>>>>> monitor. So I have room on the desk for the wheel, lol. plus my
>>>>> old 17 inch monitor is dying.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>> Hey PB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>> heh heh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default
>>>>>> to 533 if you don't set 667)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> What you have now? that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look, this is why...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card. Very recently, I thought
>>>>>>> hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and replaced the vid
>>>>>>> card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized how crippled & slow
>>>>>>> my old machine was... So then the hunt was on... knowing I cant
>>>>>>> spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and
>>>>>>> AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory. So I bought the
>>>>>>> Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz) ram
>>>>>>> {making it 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger
>>>>>>> harddrive for this new machine and gained a ****load of
>>>>>>> performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see it from here at
>>>>>>> least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I
>>>>>>> had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY I
>>>>>>> spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.) up from my just under
>>>>>>> 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like the idea
>>>>>>> of swapping
>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually
>>>>>>> "get some
>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it <VBG>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a ~$250-$300
>>>>>>>> video card:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155848825300
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other racing
>>>>>>>>> sims, but don't want the latest most expensive hardware. I
>>>>>>>>> want to main system to cost >$1000, but want it to be able to
>>>>>>>>> drive a TripleHead2Go display.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable. I
>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are appreciated!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>
>

Thanks! I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway fpd218w at
this time... anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic LOL!
==--== enlightened us with:
> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual
> Channel Memory Kit
>
> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
> PC2-6400 (as above)
>
> Cheers
> ==--==
>
>
> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that... dang. I
>> guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>> you buy? ((suggestions)).
>>
>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400... <G>.
>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running at
>>> 667) now
>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases
>>>
>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and ddr2
>>> 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> ==--==
>>>
>>>
>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400? that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you go
>>>> from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> HEY.. ==__==,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then? I been trying to google
>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though. but my next purchase is gonna
>>>>>> be a LCD monitor. So I have room on the desk for the wheel,
>>>>>> lol. plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>> Hey PB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>> heh heh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default
>>>>>>> to 533 if you don't set 667)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> What you have now? that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card. Very recently, I
>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized
>>>>>>>> how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then the hunt was
>>>>>>>> on... knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and
>>>>>>>> AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory. So I bought
>>>>>>>> the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz)
>>>>>>>> ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger
>>>>>>>> harddrive for this new machine and gained a ****load of
>>>>>>>> performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see it from here at
>>>>>>>> least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I
>>>>>>>> had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY
>>>>>>>> I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>>>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.) up from my just
>>>>>>>> under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like
>>>>>>>> the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>>>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>>>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually
>>>>>>>> "get some
>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it <VBG>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155848825300
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want it
>>>>>>>>>> to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable. I
>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

lol - ironic? I have the fpd2185w also
cheers
==--==


"Plowboy" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks! I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway fpd218w
> at this time... anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic LOL!
> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual
>> Channel Memory Kit
>>
>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>> PC2-6400 (as above)
>>
>> Cheers
>> ==--==
>>
>>
>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that... dang. I
>>> guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>>> you buy? ((suggestions)).
>>>
>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400... <G>.
>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running at
>>>> 667) now
>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases
>>>>
>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and ddr2
>>>> 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> ==--==
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400? that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you go
>>>>> from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> HEY.. ==__==,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then? I been trying to google
>>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though. but my next purchase is gonna
>>>>>>> be a LCD monitor. So I have room on the desk for the wheel,
>>>>>>> lol. plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>> Hey PB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>> heh heh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default
>>>>>>>> to 533 if you don't set 667)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> What you have now? that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card. Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized
>>>>>>>>> how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then the hunt was
>>>>>>>>> on... knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and
>>>>>>>>> AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory. So I bought
>>>>>>>>> the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz)
>>>>>>>>> ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger
>>>>>>>>> harddrive for this new machine and gained a ****load of
>>>>>>>>> performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see it from here at
>>>>>>>>> least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I
>>>>>>>>> had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY
>>>>>>>>> I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>>>>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.) up from my just
>>>>>>>>> under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like
>>>>>>>>> the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>>>>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>>>>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually
>>>>>>>>> "get some
>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it <VBG>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155848825300
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want it
>>>>>>>>>>> to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable. I
>>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>
>

dang I need to check in more often, hehehehe... so you like the monitor,
right?
==--== enlightened us with:
> lol - ironic? I have the fpd2185w also
> cheers
> ==--==
>
>
> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thanks! I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>> fpd218w at this time... anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual
>>> Channel Memory Kit
>>>
>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>> PC2-6400 (as above)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> ==--==
>>>
>>>
>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>> dang. I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>>>> you buy? ((suggestions)).
>>>>
>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400... <G>.
>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running
>>>>> at 667) now
>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400? that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you
>>>>>> go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> HEY.. ==__==,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then? I been trying to google
>>>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though. but my next purchase is
>>>>>>>> gonna be a LCD monitor. So I have room on the desk for the
>>>>>>>> wheel, lol. plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>> Hey PB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>> heh heh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> What you have now? that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card. Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on... knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory. So I
>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>> ****load of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this
>>>>>>>>>> way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much
>>>>>>>>>> EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.) up from
>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it <VBG>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155848825300
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

I Think I sent that last post too quick.

Lets compare all that our PC's have. you might have listed what you got
altogether, and I probably have at one time... But here it is

C2Duo e6400 chip
BFG Tech 7800gs-oc 256 (dang I forget to double check this, might been the
512 card, I wanted to go all out)
2 gig Corsair value select ddr1 400 ram
320 gig Hitachi HD as main, 100 gig as backup drive and D.

I was contemplating getting the New soundblaster X card at one point, just
because I keep hearing that the onboard sound (what is it, ALC888) on almost
all boards suck... but Im slowly being less than picky.

might get one of the
==--== enlightened us with:
> lol - ironic? I have the fpd2185w also
> cheers
> ==--==
>
>
> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thanks! I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>> fpd218w at this time... anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual
>>> Channel Memory Kit
>>>
>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>> PC2-6400 (as above)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> ==--==
>>>
>>>
>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>> dang. I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>>>> you buy? ((suggestions)).
>>>>
>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400... <G>.
>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running
>>>>> at 667) now
>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400? that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you
>>>>>> go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> HEY.. ==__==,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then? I been trying to google
>>>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though. but my next purchase is
>>>>>>>> gonna be a LCD monitor. So I have room on the desk for the
>>>>>>>> wheel, lol. plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>> Hey PB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>> heh heh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> What you have now? that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card. Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on... knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory. So I
>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>> ****load of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this
>>>>>>>>>> way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much
>>>>>>>>>> EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.) up from
>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it <VBG>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155848825300
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

I really like mine. The only gripe I can think of is the 1-year warranty,
and you can't buy the extended unless you got the monitor from Gateway
directly.

-Larry

"==--==" > wrote in message
news:w4Gmh.545562$1T2.28478@pd7urf2no...

> lol - ironic? I have the fpd2185w also
> cheers
> ==--==

Hi PB

Mine's as follow's;

C2Duo e64 (775 Dual VSTA)
ATi x800xl (agp) still quite a good card - 400/1000 gddr3
2 Gb (2x1) OCZ Dual Channel PC2-6400 (800mHz capable - running at 667)
Sata2 250 gig / coupl'a' 80 gig

I compared the onboard sound (5.1) vs. my SB Audigy2 ZS (7.1). I use 5.1
speaker setup and found the onboard to be equal to the Audigy. Whether my
ears suck - or mainboard sound chips are finally starting to be decent - but
I left the Aud out and am quite happily using the surround function of the
onboard RealTek - it sounds really good to me. FWIW

Per the GATEWAY fpd2185w
Well... I ~love~ the monitor, but sadly am looking at returning mine for
service. It had been working perfectly in DVI mode and the image was
fabulous! Just in the last month or so, I have been having some problems
with it and now the DVI does not seem to work and I am forced to run in VGA
mode It has also had a few (4 or 5) episodes of turning yellow - ala
old monitor failure. Not good. Anyway... I hope that it is something
unique to my unit and that I will get it repaired or replaced. P.S. - I did
get an extended warranty (whew! - 4 yrs) by purchasing it through Futureshop
(Canada).

Cheers
==--==


"Plowboy" > wrote in message
...
>I Think I sent that last post too quick.
>
> Lets compare all that our PC's have. you might have listed what you got
> altogether, and I probably have at one time... But here it is
>
> C2Duo e6400 chip
> BFG Tech 7800gs-oc 256 (dang I forget to double check this, might been the
> 512 card, I wanted to go all out)
> 2 gig Corsair value select ddr1 400 ram
> 320 gig Hitachi HD as main, 100 gig as backup drive and D.
>
> I was contemplating getting the New soundblaster X card at one point, just
> because I keep hearing that the onboard sound (what is it, ALC888) on
> almost all boards suck... but Im slowly being less than picky.
>
> might get one of the
> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> lol - ironic? I have the fpd2185w also
>> cheers
>> ==--==
>>
>>
>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Thanks! I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>>> fpd218w at this time... anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual
>>>> Channel Memory Kit
>>>>
>>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>>> PC2-6400 (as above)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> ==--==
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>>> dang. I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>>>>> you buy? ((suggestions)).
>>>>>
>>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400... <G>.
>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running
>>>>>> at 667) now
>>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400? that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you
>>>>>>> go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> HEY.. ==__==,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then? I been trying to google
>>>>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though. but my next purchase is
>>>>>>>>> gonna be a LCD monitor. So I have room on the desk for the
>>>>>>>>> wheel, lol. plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>> Hey PB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>>> heh heh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> What you have now? that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card. Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on... knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory. So I
>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>>> ****load of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this
>>>>>>>>>>> way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much
>>>>>>>>>>> EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.) up from
>>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it <VBG>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155848825300
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>
>

Wew! Mine showed up yesterday, hooked it up last night... Well once again
I happy, but now I am thinking, damn I wish I had paid attention when people
were talking about settings... Loaded up NR03 at what is 1680x1050 I still
get 80 fps (down from 115 plus) so that is usable but now (not sure it
matters) my cockpit view is as if I was 4ft tall person (seat all the way
forward).

But here's what I wondering, GTL, & my machine, well it would load it, but I
wont run it at 1680x1050, as you may know you have to have high world detail
to get to see all the cones at to many tracks, that puts me back in the
sub30 fps just in practice, in my cup challenge (in d with 21 cars) so right
now Im running 1024x768 like I was, but it must be doing something because
it is full screen, and am I losing frames all over the place?

later. Love this monitor I hope my refurb'd one lasts a while, I didnt even
see a scratch on the bezel and I looked pretty hard, hopefully I got one
that was returned due to buyer/cash remorse, instead of actual problem.

==--== enlightened us with:
> Hi PB
>
> Mine's as follow's;
>
> C2Duo e64 (775 Dual VSTA)
> ATi x800xl (agp) still quite a good card - 400/1000 gddr3
> 2 Gb (2x1) OCZ Dual Channel PC2-6400 (800mHz capable - running at
> 667) Sata2 250 gig / coupl'a' 80 gig
>
> I compared the onboard sound (5.1) vs. my SB Audigy2 ZS (7.1). I
> use 5.1 speaker setup and found the onboard to be equal to the
> Audigy. Whether my ears suck - or mainboard sound chips are finally
> starting to be decent - but I left the Aud out and am quite happily
> using the surround function of the onboard RealTek - it sounds really
> good to me. FWIW
> Per the GATEWAY fpd2185w
> Well... I ~love~ the monitor, but sadly am looking at returning mine
> for service. It had been working perfectly in DVI mode and the image
> was fabulous! Just in the last month or so, I have been having some
> problems with it and now the DVI does not seem to work and I am
> forced to run in VGA mode It has also had a few (4 or 5)
> episodes of turning yellow - ala old monitor failure. Not good. Anyway...
> I hope that it is something unique to my unit and that I
> will get it repaired or replaced. P.S. - I did get an extended
> warranty (whew! - 4 yrs) by purchasing it through Futureshop (Canada).
>
> Cheers
> ==--==
>
>
> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I Think I sent that last post too quick.
>>
>> Lets compare all that our PC's have. you might have listed what you
>> got altogether, and I probably have at one time... But here it is
>>
>> C2Duo e6400 chip
>> BFG Tech 7800gs-oc 256 (dang I forget to double check this, might
>> been the 512 card, I wanted to go all out)
>> 2 gig Corsair value select ddr1 400 ram
>> 320 gig Hitachi HD as main, 100 gig as backup drive and D.
>>
>> I was contemplating getting the New soundblaster X card at one
>> point, just because I keep hearing that the onboard sound (what is
>> it, ALC888) on almost all boards suck... but Im slowly being less
>> than picky. might get one of the
>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> lol - ironic? I have the fpd2185w also
>>> cheers
>>> ==--==
>>>
>>>
>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Thanks! I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>>>> fpd218w at this time... anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>>>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM
>>>>> Dual Channel Memory Kit
>>>>>
>>>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>>>> PC2-6400 (as above)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>>>> dang. I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what
>>>>>> did you buy? ((suggestions)).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400... <G>.
>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz -
>>>>>>> running at 667) now
>>>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400? that is what I have dual channel 2x 1
>>>>>>>> gig sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much,
>>>>>>>> did you go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> HEY.. ==__==,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then? I been trying to
>>>>>>>>>> google any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that
>>>>>>>>>> much difference, maybe it does though. but my next purchase
>>>>>>>>>> is gonna be a LCD monitor. So I have room on the desk for
>>>>>>>>>> the wheel, lol. plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey PB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay
>>>>>>>>>>> sale?) You'll be thrilled with the difference
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>>>> heh heh
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What you have now? that is the easiest way to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>> how much you'd wanna spend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card. Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on... knowing I cant spend even 500 more
>>>>>>>>>>>> bucks on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory. So I
>>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****load of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy
>>>>>>>>>>>> (this way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on
>>>>>>>>>>>> how much EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.) up from
>>>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it <VBG>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155848825300
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I plan to mail order and assemble it myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

NR2003 widescreen; it has native support

==Method==
Run the config utility and select your resolution there. You may see an FOV
setting in the video menu. You do not need to touch this to make the game
hor +.

**( you might want to play with the HORIZONTAL setting a bit to suit your
taste )

==Supported resolutions==
Confirmed: 1280x720, 1280x768, 1280x800, 1440x900, 1680x1050
Unconfirmed: 1920x1080, and 1920x1200.


Check that Vsync is off. You may also find that you get the same or even
more fps when you run in the native res of the monitor ie: 1680x1050 ---
You might try 1440x900 for GTL

The fpd2185w supports 1680x1050 (native)
but also supports 1440x900, 1280x1024, 1152x864 and 1024x768

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/

This is a great resource for those older games - gives you information about
ini changes etc. to get widescreen from non-native supported games.

Cheers
==--==

"Plowboy" > wrote in message
...
> Wew! Mine showed up yesterday, hooked it up last night... Well once
> again I happy, but now I am thinking, damn I wish I had paid attention
> when people were talking about settings... Loaded up NR03 at what is
> 1680x1050 I still get 80 fps (down from 115 plus) so that is usable but
> now (not sure it matters) my cockpit view is as if I was 4ft tall person
> (seat all the way forward).
>
> But here's what I wondering, GTL, & my machine, well it would load it, but
> I wont run it at 1680x1050, as you may know you have to have high world
> detail to get to see all the cones at to many tracks, that puts me back in
> the sub30 fps just in practice, in my cup challenge (in d with 21 cars) so
> right now Im running 1024x768 like I was, but it must be doing something
> because it is full screen, and am I losing frames all over the place?
>
> later. Love this monitor I hope my refurb'd one lasts a while, I didnt
> even see a scratch on the bezel and I looked pretty hard, hopefully I got
> one that was returned due to buyer/cash remorse, instead of actual
> problem.
>
> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> Hi PB
>>
>> Mine's as follow's;
>>
>> C2Duo e64 (775 Dual VSTA)
>> ATi x800xl (agp) still quite a good card - 400/1000 gddr3
>> 2 Gb (2x1) OCZ Dual Channel PC2-6400 (800mHz capable - running at
>> 667) Sata2 250 gig / coupl'a' 80 gig
>>
>> I compared the onboard sound (5.1) vs. my SB Audigy2 ZS (7.1). I
>> use 5.1 speaker setup and found the onboard to be equal to the
>> Audigy. Whether my ears suck - or mainboard sound chips are finally
>> starting to be decent - but I left the Aud out and am quite happily
>> using the surround function of the onboard RealTek - it sounds really
>> good to me. FWIW
>> Per the GATEWAY fpd2185w
>> Well... I ~love~ the monitor, but sadly am looking at returning mine
>> for service. It had been working perfectly in DVI mode and the image
>> was fabulous! Just in the last month or so, I have been having some
>> problems with it and now the DVI does not seem to work and I am
>> forced to run in VGA mode It has also had a few (4 or 5)
>> episodes of turning yellow - ala old monitor failure. Not good.
>> Anyway... I hope that it is something unique to my unit and that I
>> will get it repaired or replaced. P.S. - I did get an extended
>> warranty (whew! - 4 yrs) by purchasing it through Futureshop (Canada).
>>
>> Cheers
>> ==--==
>>
>>
>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I Think I sent that last post too quick.
>>>
>>> Lets compare all that our PC's have. you might have listed what you
>>> got altogether, and I probably have at one time... But here it is
>>>
>>> C2Duo e6400 chip
>>> BFG Tech 7800gs-oc 256 (dang I forget to double check this, might
>>> been the 512 card, I wanted to go all out)
>>> 2 gig Corsair value select ddr1 400 ram
>>> 320 gig Hitachi HD as main, 100 gig as backup drive and D.
>>>
>>> I was contemplating getting the New soundblaster X card at one
>>> point, just because I keep hearing that the onboard sound (what is
>>> it, ALC888) on almost all boards suck... but Im slowly being less
>>> than picky. might get one of the
>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> lol - ironic? I have the fpd2185w also
>>>> cheers
>>>> ==--==
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Thanks! I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>>>>> fpd218w at this time... anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>>>>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM
>>>>>> Dual Channel Memory Kit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>>>>> PC2-6400 (as above)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>>>>> dang. I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what
>>>>>>> did you buy? ((suggestions)).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400... <G>.
>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz -
>>>>>>>> running at 667) now
>>>>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400? that is what I have dual channel 2x 1
>>>>>>>>> gig sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much,
>>>>>>>>> did you go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> HEY.. ==__==,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then? I been trying to
>>>>>>>>>>> google any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that
>>>>>>>>>>> much difference, maybe it does though. but my next purchase
>>>>>>>>>>> is gonna be a LCD monitor. So I have room on the desk for
>>>>>>>>>>> the wheel, lol. plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey PB
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay
>>>>>>>>>>>> sale?) You'll be thrilled with the difference
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>>>>> heh heh
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==--==
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you have now? that is the easiest way to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how much you'd wanna spend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card. Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on... knowing I cant spend even 500 more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bucks on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory. So I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****load of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (this way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how much EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.) up from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it <VBG>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1155848825300
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I plan to mail order and assemble it myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson
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