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Is the compensation number accurate or misleading?
On 25 Dec, 19:41, > wrote:
> Being able to afford "something" has little to do with ones standard of > living... > > Where I live, we are in a labour crunch. McDonalds is offering $13 per hour > for burger flippers.... I couldn't afford to live on $13 per hour. > If the burger flippers are supposed to be able to live in $13/hour then I guess the Wall Street guys should get the same or less. Losing billions of dollars can not be more difficukt than flipping burgers. Same to rick and co Cars are made by robots and not much skill involved for the monkeys that feed them. |
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> wrote in message news:amR4l.818$%v1.182@edtnps83... > Being able to afford "something" has little to do with ones standard of > living... > > Where I live, we are in a labour crunch. McDonalds is offering $13 per > hour for burger flippers.... I couldn't afford to live on $13 per hour. > While not a wage I'd want to try to live on, it is pretty good money for a high school kid, an uneducated dropout, or a part time mom that wants to make a few extra bucks while the kids are in school. |
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On 26 Dec, 02:43, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> > wrote in message > > news:amR4l.818$%v1.182@edtnps83... > > > Being able to afford "something" has little to do with ones standard of > > living... > > > Where I live, we are in a labour crunch. McDonalds is offering $13 per > > hour for burger flippers.... I couldn't afford to live on $13 per hour. > > While not a wage I'd want to try to live on, it is pretty good money for a > high school kid, an uneducated dropout, or a part time mom that wants to > make a few extra bucks while the kids are in school. As I understand it then it is going very well for McDonalds now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index the price of a Big Mac was $3.57 in the United States The Big Mac can be used to tell the difference in cost of living around the world etc. |
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Gosi wrote:
> On 20 Dec, 21:01, Tim > wrote: >> Mark A wrote: >>> "Tim" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> Trade unions just make the equation one employer negotiator, one employee >>>> negotiator. What could be fairer? >>> Union negotiation of pay negates the reality that some people are better >>> employees than others in terms of productivity and quality of work, and that >>> they should be paid more. When you have a union that negotiates pay based on >>> seniority, then there is no incentive for an employee to work harder or >>> improve the quality of their work. >> I thought trained monkeys could do these jobs. > > They do Oh. Some trained monkeys do a better job than others. |
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On 27 Dec, 14:25, Tim > wrote:
> Gosi wrote: > > On 20 Dec, 21:01, Tim > wrote: > >> Mark A wrote: > >>> "Tim" > wrote in message > ... > >>>> Trade unions just make the equation one employer negotiator, one employee > >>>> negotiator. What could be fairer? > >>> Union negotiation of pay negates the reality that some people are better > >>> employees than others in terms of productivity and quality of work, and that > >>> they should be paid more. When you have a union that negotiates pay based on > >>> seniority, then there is no incentive for an employee to work harder or > >>> improve the quality of their work. > >> I thought trained monkeys could do these jobs. > > > They do > > Oh. Some trained monkeys do a better job than others. Gorillas are quite good but not that many. Chimps are in greater supply. |
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Yes and no, Ed.... Over ten years ago, people were getting $17/hour sweeping
floors.... In something a little over 6 years, my wages have doubled... Is this normal? I think not.... This is inflation on steroids... While each and every one of us would dearly love to be paid with sacks and sacks of money... it can't happen.... A job is only worth what it is worth in terms of knowledge - in terms of technical expertise - in terms of investment in tools.... Speaking of which.... Let's look at a salesman... He has, among other things, a suit. Might be a cheap one - might be an Armani... His ''tools" incl\ude looking good - smelling good and sounding good... $800 for a decent suit, $200 for nice shoes, $1500 to have his teeth capped and that halitosis dealt with.. done deal... can't do anythiung for the mans personality - but we are all in that boat. I smell bad - I don't own a suit - I'm an asshole and usually proud of the fact... but I own a LOT of tools... more than some people paid for their house. I have a lot of intellectual property... I deal in reality and cannot baffle people with bull**** because it will catch up with me. We are coming to that point in time where the stark reality will be getting paid appropriately for what we do. Assembly line workers are in for a rude awakening.... "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > > > wrote in message > news:amR4l.818$%v1.182@edtnps83... >> Being able to afford "something" has little to do with ones standard of >> living... >> >> Where I live, we are in a labour crunch. McDonalds is offering $13 per >> hour for burger flippers.... I couldn't afford to live on $13 per hour. >> > > While not a wage I'd want to try to live on, it is pretty good money for a > high school kid, an uneducated dropout, or a part time mom that wants to > make a few extra bucks while the kids are in school. > |
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Wow.... imagine... an employer (the guy that signs the FRONT of the cheque)
being able to decide where HIS business is going. How unorthodox can you get? I spent many years as self employed... A small business, the most I had for employees at one time was about 12 - a mix of full and part time. "This" is the "job" and "these" are the tasks the "job" requires - none are illegal, dangerous or immoral... "this" is what it pays. While you might decide that holding a gun to my head for higher wages or expensive benefits might be appropriate - as the keeper of the purse strings, I would find it appropriate to decide what I am going to spend and where I am going to spend it. Now that we have manufactured our own Catch 22... I can prove that it is my ball - my glove... hell, even the ball field belongs to me - and I can send everyone home. Picture, if you will, a shepherd... He can either drive the sheep to where he wants them... or he can follow them - praying that they will wind up where he desires.... "Tim" > wrote in message ... > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> "Tim" > wrote in message >>> Trade unions just make the equation one employer negotiator, one >>> employee negotiator. What could be fairer? >>> >> >> I'll represent myself, thank you. Then I know what is fair for me. > > That's nice. But when an employer can threaten to fire individuals if they > don't take what they are offered, they have the upper hand. This just > equalizes things for the worker. > Wouldn't make sense to have every employee getting a different wage. |
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