New Tracking Frontier: Your License Plates

I object. There was no languare in our Constiution that can be
construed for government to take on powers of tracking and interferring
with Citizens freedoms of movements or anything else

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...-plates/22560/

In article >, richard wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:52:25 -0600, lil Abner wrote:
>
>> I object. There was no languare in our Constiution that can be
>> construed for government to take on powers of tracking and interferring
>> with Citizens freedoms of movements or anything else
>>
>>
>http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...-plates/22560/
>
>Actually, the constitution has no power over this issue.
>What is not specifically dedicated to the US federal government is granted
>to the states.
>Roadways fall under the authority of the states. Each state requires a
>vehicle to be licensed, and can therefor, legally track those plates in any
>manner they choose. As long as that vehicle is on a roadway.

Correct. You have no expectation of privacy when on a public
roadway. I'm not super-keen about the whole tracking situation,
but it's the law of the land.

--
TJH
tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net

richard wrote:

> So it is highly unlikely that your vehicle would be tracked
> on a daily basis unless there was some reason for the cops to do so.

Agree with everything you've said. Except what makes you think only 'the
cops' have the capability to monitor the tracking database?

Given the increasing capabilities of data mining, something like this could
be happening: You have a (brick and mortar) business. A competitor opens
one up across town and decides to target your customers. So they get a list
of all customers that visit your business and maybe join that list with one
of vehicles that frequent wealthier neighborhoods (they only want your rich
customers).

States are already in the business of selling vehicle registration data (and
who knows what else) to private businesses.

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Paul Hovnanian
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On 2012-10-02, richard > wrote:

> The article stated that less than 1% of the vehicles were tracked more than
> 3 times. So it is highly unlikely that your vehicle would be tracked on a
> daily basis unless there was some reason for the cops to do so.

That's only the result of a temporary technological and capital
equipment deployment problem. Eventually all movements will logged. No
humans will be involved. The data will simply be saved. It will then
be mined as needed. Immediate uses include harming the repuations of
political opponents and finding people to charge with crimes regardless
of guilt to put them in the 'solved' pile while advancing careers. More
uses will come about as people figure out more ways to use the data.

On 2012-10-03, Paul Hovnanian P.E. > wrote:
> richard wrote:
>
>> So it is highly unlikely that your vehicle would be tracked
>> on a daily basis unless there was some reason for the cops to do so.
>
> Agree with everything you've said. Except what makes you think only 'the
> cops' have the capability to monitor the tracking database?
>
> Given the increasing capabilities of data mining, something like this could
> be happening: You have a (brick and mortar) business. A competitor opens
> one up across town and decides to target your customers. So they get a list
> of all customers that visit your business and maybe join that list with one
> of vehicles that frequent wealthier neighborhoods (they only want your rich
> customers).
>
> States are already in the business of selling vehicle registration data (and
> who knows what else) to private businesses.

Good thinking. I had not thought of the insider business applications of
the dataset.