I Gotta Laugh

In article >, dwight
> wrote:

> "CobraJet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, dwight
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> "CobraJet" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > In article >, dwight
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "CobraJet" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes?
> >> >> > What
> >> >> > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have
> >> >> > full
> >> >> > page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out with
> >> >> > new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and it's
> >> >> > instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!"
> >> >>
> >> >> I love spam. Can't get enough of it. It fills up my inbox at work and
> >> >> at
> >> >> home, and now is a welcome addition to the newsgoups I read. In fact,
> >> >> I'll
> >> >> take a daily dose of spam from ANY automotive supplier over anything
> >> >> you
> >> >> might "contribute."
> >> >>
> >> >> Your holier-than-thou garbage wore thin years ago.
> >> >
> >> > Your mantra? "Wax on; wax off". Evidently, you are still waxin' off.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or if that
> >> >> > can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the best
> >> >> > shot
> >> >> > at it. Man, are you out of touch.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > CobraJet
> >> >>
> >> >> So, you can't argue with the replies, but you want to hold them up for
> >> >> your
> >> >> own ridicule anyway? Great, ya old fart. That's great.
> >> >
> >> > Hey, I may be an old fart, but at least I pay attention to the
> >> > players in my hobby. You are out of touch.
> >>
> >> Really? What, exactly, is my hobby?
> >
> > Yakking about some outdated pile of **** you drive.
>
> You and I share the very same hobby, with that description.
>
> >> >> Glad to see you're still hanging around ramfm to protect us from
> >> >> ourselves.
> >> >
> >> > Well, I was curious about Patrick's recemnt lame post in AHPBBFM,
> >> > which really had no point. So I re-upped ol' RAMFM to see what's
> >> > happenin' over here. You may thank him at your convenience.
> >>
> >> HAH! Now Patrick determines what you do?
> >
> > Yes, actually. After I read his post I grabbed the paper and sat on
> > the toilet. Cause and Effect.
>
> And, if the sit had a positive outcome, it probably brightened your day
> considerably. You should send Patrick a thank-you card.
>
> >> On second thought, that's not at all unbelievable. Patrick's been pulling
> >> your strings for years. Me, too, apparently - it wasn't a Patrick post
> >> that
> >> brought you out into the light, was it?
> >
> > Nope. It was the hilarity of checking RAMFM after all this time and
> > seeing that people here STILL respond to spam postings. ****fire,
> > didn't we determine like, ten years ago, that such behavior was the
> > single most futile action in Usenet? And you're doing it in 2007? Holy
> > CRAP! Move on. Grow up. Pulling strings? Oh, you have turned feeble. Or
> > moreso, as it were.
>
> The hypocrisy of the above is overwhelming. What got you to post, after all
> this time? My reply to an ad. Didn't we determine a long time ago that all
> of your ranting, railing, and general hot air dispersion would have zero
> effect on my actions? And you're still doing it in 2007?
>
> >> > Glad to see you guys are still slaying those dragons. I know I'd be
> >> > ****ting bricks if *my* windshield wipers had a mind of thier own.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > CobraJet
> >>
> >> Looks to me like you didn't **** at all today. That's okay, I have days
> >> like
> >> that myself. It's amazing how one little thing can throw your whole world
> >> out of whack.
> >
> > My world is doing pretty good, actually. It turns out that giving
> > the ThunderSnakes a sense of solidarity was a good move. It's a shame
> > you didn't organize such a thing here when you had the chance.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong; I have no desire to see RAMFM bite the dust.
> > But, the times have changed, and you need to follow suit.
> >
> > --
> > CobraJet
>
> Uh... no... I don't.

And so it's "Look, I took Froggy to the dealer!" for another couple
decades?

> Maybe you've become a specialist, where I remain a
> general practitioner. Maybe you've developed a MUCH lower standard of
> annoyance than I have.

If you mean my panties aren't in a bunch over on-topic spam, then
yeah.

>
> RAMFM is all things Mustang. Beyond that, RAMFM is all things that are
> related to Mustangs. This allows a wide, free-ranging discussion. The fact
> that it's also an unmoderated newsgroup means that anything goes, and I
> welcome that.

That's good. Maybe.
>
> I have no interest in narrowing its focus or the contributions of anyone
> else.

That's good, too. In fact, we broadened our focus to include
small-block pushrod engines and new-tech hardware. And we are still
unmoderated.

>
> In fact, back to the genesis of this thread, I have no real problem with
> John advertising his products in this newsgroup. His ads are not spam, in
> any sense of the word, but on topic advertisements (something I've actually
> defended in other newsgroups). Now, while ads here may not be considered a
> good thing, they are at the least relevant to Mustangs. If I had control
> over this newsgroup, I probably would have let them get in.

And yet WF torques up his panties some more this morning and
regurgitates the same tired old "Usenet Policy". You guys need to get
sorted out.

>
> My real problem with RAMFM is the overall decline in posts. While much of
> this is a seasonal thing (it slows down every winter), I'll bet that the
> statistics will prove that newsgroups in general are going the way of the
> big-block Mercury. There's a slow and steady exodus to web-based forums,
> even those that derive the bulk of their content by mirroring these very
> newsgroups.

This is very old news, which is why you need to step into the here
and now. I used make runs through the whole alt.auto hierarchy to keep
an eye on the action. It was evident three years ago that these groups
would become a wasteland. Did you not see that all those guys from
other ng's stopped sticking their noses in here?

The exodus to the Web was not slow at all. It was, with broadband
and improved interfacing, inevitable. Their success has nothing to do
with "mirroring" newsgroups. The overwhelming majority of the members
there don't even know what Usenet is.

Matter of fact, dwight, I think the single biggest reason for the
proliferation of web forums is the existence of some degree of
moderation which has eliminated the flamewar. Yep, that glorious
debacle which in old days used to define Usenet itself. Turns out, most
people would rather talk shop than argue.

I went on cable and into the Web about 15 months ago. I found guys
that had been in Usenet that were quite happy over there. Of course, I
had to be "normal", but I got used to it. I've learned more last year
than in all the prior time in newsgroups. Go figure.

>
> I suppose that if I really "got with the times," I'd buy a new Mazda and
> join a couple of discussion forums about how great drifting is, even though
> I never actually do it.

Ah, open your eyes. If the decline in posting bothers you, think of
what you and the others can do to increase it. Start by asking yourself
why you posted the above sentence. If that's how you see things, then
you've already lost.

>
> dwight
>
>

--
CobraJet

"WindsorFox" > wrote in message
...
> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>> "CobraJet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes? What
>>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full
>>> page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out with
>>> new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and it's
>>> instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!"
>>>
>>> I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or if that
>>> can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the best shot
>>> at it. Man, are you out of touch.
>>>
>>> --
>>> CobraJet
>>
>> FYI:
>> Nobody here want to hear your silly ****, that's why the illustrious
>> Usenet group you created is dead.
>> Don't you have a bottle of crappy ale and a welfare check calling your
>> name somewhere ELSE?
>> What's the matter? Your private little web thing didn't pan out?
>
> Actually I believe Bill S. created this one.

I think he was referring to the "other" dead group.

dwight

"CobraJet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, dwight
> > wrote:
>
>> "CobraJet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, dwight
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "CobraJet" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > In article >, dwight
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "CobraJet" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> > WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes?
>> >> >> > What
>> >> >> > planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have
>> >> >> > full
>> >> >> > page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and
>> >> >> > it's
>> >> >> > instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I love spam. Can't get enough of it. It fills up my inbox at work
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> home, and now is a welcome addition to the newsgoups I read. In
>> >> >> fact,
>> >> >> I'll
>> >> >> take a daily dose of spam from ANY automotive supplier over
>> >> >> anything
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> might "contribute."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your holier-than-thou garbage wore thin years ago.
>> >> >
>> >> > Your mantra? "Wax on; wax off". Evidently, you are still waxin'
>> >> > off.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or if
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the
>> >> >> > best
>> >> >> > shot
>> >> >> > at it. Man, are you out of touch.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > CobraJet
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, you can't argue with the replies, but you want to hold them up
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> own ridicule anyway? Great, ya old fart. That's great.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hey, I may be an old fart, but at least I pay attention to the
>> >> > players in my hobby. You are out of touch.
>> >>
>> >> Really? What, exactly, is my hobby?
>> >
>> > Yakking about some outdated pile of **** you drive.
>>
>> You and I share the very same hobby, with that description.
>>
>> >> >> Glad to see you're still hanging around ramfm to protect us from
>> >> >> ourselves.
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, I was curious about Patrick's recemnt lame post in AHPBBFM,
>> >> > which really had no point. So I re-upped ol' RAMFM to see what's
>> >> > happenin' over here. You may thank him at your convenience.
>> >>
>> >> HAH! Now Patrick determines what you do?
>> >
>> > Yes, actually. After I read his post I grabbed the paper and sat on
>> > the toilet. Cause and Effect.
>>
>> And, if the sit had a positive outcome, it probably brightened your day
>> considerably. You should send Patrick a thank-you card.
>>
>> >> On second thought, that's not at all unbelievable. Patrick's been
>> >> pulling
>> >> your strings for years. Me, too, apparently - it wasn't a Patrick post
>> >> that
>> >> brought you out into the light, was it?
>> >
>> > Nope. It was the hilarity of checking RAMFM after all this time and
>> > seeing that people here STILL respond to spam postings. ****fire,
>> > didn't we determine like, ten years ago, that such behavior was the
>> > single most futile action in Usenet? And you're doing it in 2007? Holy
>> > CRAP! Move on. Grow up. Pulling strings? Oh, you have turned feeble. Or
>> > moreso, as it were.
>>
>> The hypocrisy of the above is overwhelming. What got you to post, after
>> all
>> this time? My reply to an ad. Didn't we determine a long time ago that
>> all
>> of your ranting, railing, and general hot air dispersion would have zero
>> effect on my actions? And you're still doing it in 2007?
>>
>> >> > Glad to see you guys are still slaying those dragons. I know I'd
>> >> > be
>> >> > ****ting bricks if *my* windshield wipers had a mind of thier own.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > CobraJet
>> >>
>> >> Looks to me like you didn't **** at all today. That's okay, I have
>> >> days
>> >> like
>> >> that myself. It's amazing how one little thing can throw your whole
>> >> world
>> >> out of whack.
>> >
>> > My world is doing pretty good, actually. It turns out that giving
>> > the ThunderSnakes a sense of solidarity was a good move. It's a shame
>> > you didn't organize such a thing here when you had the chance.
>> >
>> > Don't get me wrong; I have no desire to see RAMFM bite the dust.
>> > But, the times have changed, and you need to follow suit.
>> >
>> > --
>> > CobraJet
>>
>> Uh... no... I don't.
>
> And so it's "Look, I took Froggy to the dealer!" for another couple
> decades?
>
>> Maybe you've become a specialist, where I remain a
>> general practitioner. Maybe you've developed a MUCH lower standard of
>> annoyance than I have.
>
> If you mean my panties aren't in a bunch over on-topic spam, then
> yeah.

I guess "panties in a bunch" has a MUCH looser translation in your world. It
used to have something to do with popping blood vessels, but you throw it
around as synonymous with "annoyed." That's the second time you've referred
to my panties, which, I assure you, remain unwadded.

Oh, but now you'll tell me that my panties are in a wad over something that
YOU posted, too. After all, I replied...

>> RAMFM is all things Mustang. Beyond that, RAMFM is all things that are
>> related to Mustangs. This allows a wide, free-ranging discussion. The
>> fact
>> that it's also an unmoderated newsgroup means that anything goes, and I
>> welcome that.
>
> That's good. Maybe.
>>
>> I have no interest in narrowing its focus or the contributions of anyone
>> else.
>
> That's good, too. In fact, we broadened our focus to include
> small-block pushrod engines and new-tech hardware. And we are still
> unmoderated.

Throw in the occasional discussion of digital photography, and I might
subscribe.

>> In fact, back to the genesis of this thread, I have no real problem with
>> John advertising his products in this newsgroup. His ads are not spam, in
>> any sense of the word, but on topic advertisements (something I've
>> actually
>> defended in other newsgroups). Now, while ads here may not be considered
>> a
>> good thing, they are at the least relevant to Mustangs. If I had control
>> over this newsgroup, I probably would have let them get in.
>
> And yet WF torques up his panties some more this morning and
> regurgitates the same tired old "Usenet Policy". You guys need to get
> sorted out.

Your logic - or train of thought - is severely flawed. First you drag out a
reference to a thread about windshield wipers, knowing that I had NO part in
that one, as some sort of slam against me, and now you drag the Fox into it.
This is me, Jet. dwight. Try to stay focused when you respond to something I
write. I know it's getting harder with each passing year, but, in the end,
you'll find that things make more sense.

When you see a post and before you hit REPLY, you can usually see who the
author of the post was. Mine probably say something like "dwight." If it
says "Windsor Fox," that's the other guy.

>> My real problem with RAMFM is the overall decline in posts. While much of
>> this is a seasonal thing (it slows down every winter), I'll bet that the
>> statistics will prove that newsgroups in general are going the way of the
>> big-block Mercury. There's a slow and steady exodus to web-based forums,
>> even those that derive the bulk of their content by mirroring these very
>> newsgroups.
>
> This is very old news, which is why you need to step into the here
> and now. I used make runs through the whole alt.auto hierarchy to keep
> an eye on the action. It was evident three years ago that these groups
> would become a wasteland. Did you not see that all those guys from
> other ng's stopped sticking their noses in here?
>
> The exodus to the Web was not slow at all. It was, with broadband
> and improved interfacing, inevitable. Their success has nothing to do
> with "mirroring" newsgroups. The overwhelming majority of the members
> there don't even know what Usenet is.
>
> Matter of fact, dwight, I think the single biggest reason for the
> proliferation of web forums is the existence of some degree of
> moderation which has eliminated the flamewar. Yep, that glorious
> debacle which in old days used to define Usenet itself. Turns out, most
> people would rather talk shop than argue.
>
> I went on cable and into the Web about 15 months ago. I found guys
> that had been in Usenet that were quite happy over there. Of course, I
> had to be "normal", but I got used to it. I've learned more last year
> than in all the prior time in newsgroups. Go figure.

ohmigod... You "went on cable and into the Web" a WHOLE 15 MONTHS AGO?!? Are
you freakin' kidding me? And "I" have to catch up???

Dude... Seriously.

You're one of those guys who believes what he believes, and everyone who
doesn't agree is wrong. That's fine. Believe me, I think this world would be
flat out unlivable if everyone agreed all the time, if everyone shared the
same thinking.

It's all about choices, Jet. I've been aware of the internets for a little
longer than 15 months, and I make great use of its resources. I fully
understand that usenet is but one small piece of the great pie. (In your
limited braintrust, you only see my posts here, so you probably figure that
this is my only internet presence. It's understandable.)

But I'm able to do more than one thing at a time. It's called
"multitasking." You might want to Google that for more information.

Hint: type http://www.google.com into your "browser" - you know, the window
that shows you the Nets. You'll see the big word "GOOGLE" come up, with a
white rectangle below that. Your cursor (the blinky thing) will already be
in that box. Just type the word "multitasking" and hit the button marked
"Enter." You'll be amazed...

>> I suppose that if I really "got with the times," I'd buy a new Mazda and
>> join a couple of discussion forums about how great drifting is, even
>> though
>> I never actually do it.
>
> Ah, open your eyes. If the decline in posting bothers you, think of
> what you and the others can do to increase it. Start by asking yourself
> why you posted the above sentence. If that's how you see things, then
> you've already lost.

I'll do that, if you'll think about why YOU are posting here and now.
Personally, I'm happy you're here - we've tripled the daily posts in ramfm
over the past couple of days. THAT's content, baby.

uh... wait... lost what?

dwight

In article >, dwight
> wrote:

>
> uh... wait... lost what?
>
> dwight
>
>

My mistake. You can't lose what you never had.

--
CobraJet

WindsorFox > wrote in news:yqDDh.178$3b5.79
@newsfe24.lga:

> CobraJet wrote:
>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes?
What
>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full
>> page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out with
>> new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and it's
>> instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!"
>
> Says you, I still never heard of them. On topic has nothing to do
> with being spam or not. Commercial advertisements are against the FAQ
> for all discussion groups on Usenet.

Utter nonsense. Back it up.

> Excessive MotorSports had multiple full page ads as well and
> because one crusty old asshole heard of them certainly doesn't make
them
> a household name.
>
>

dwight wrote:
> "Jason O" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> dwight wrote:
>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>> dwight wrote:
>>>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> CobraJet wrote:
>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power Brakes?
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have full
>>>>>>> page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out with
>>>>>>> new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and it's
>>>>>>> instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or if that
>>>>>>> can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the best
>>>>>>> shot
>>>>>>> at it. Man, are you out of touch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, this group has really gone to ****. All I see is Patrick doing
>>>>>> his normal mass-media puke, and a few clueless newbies. The newbies
>>>>>> would be best served taking their newbie questions to web forums.
>>>>>> It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman and
>>>>>> Big Al stick around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>> You're being funny, right? The irony is too thick.
>>>>>
>>>>> dwight
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> No, and it is, but only because of that question.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jason
>>> Fine. I'll spell it out for you.
>>>
>>> "It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman and
>>> Big Al stick around."
>>>
>>> And here you are.
>>>
>> Now don't get all sassy on me. It's just sad to come here, because this
>> group used to be really good. It's not now.
>>
>> --
>> Jason
>
> So bring something to the table, rather than complain about the content. I
> don't know how many times it has to be said - the newsgroup is made by those
> who post, not by those who read.
>
> Patrick's been putting his mass-media puke out here for over a decade.
> Newbies have been posting the same damn questions as long as I've been here
> (and I was one, myself). As with anything else, if you don't like the show,
> change the channel. But in THIS case, you have the ability to control the
> content of the show, to an extent.
>
> dwight
>
>

Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about
everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison.

You know what? I will, just as soon as I find an AP story about
something vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama jama
in RAMFM!!!

--
Jason

Jason O > wrote in
:

> dwight wrote:
>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> dwight wrote:
>>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>>> . ..
>>>>> dwight wrote:
>>>>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> CobraJet wrote:
>>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power
>>>>>>>> Brakes?
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They
>>>>>>>> have full page ads in many of the trade magazines and
>>>>>>>> constantly come out with new stuff. Finally you get spammed by
>>>>>>>> an ON Topic company and it's instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or
>>>>>>>> if that
>>>>>>>> can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the
>>>>>>>> best shot
>>>>>>>> at it. Man, are you out of touch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, this group has really gone to ****. All I see is Patrick
>>>>>>> doing his normal mass-media puke, and a few clueless newbies.
>>>>>>> The newbies would be best served taking their newbie questions
>>>>>>> to web forums. It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable
>>>>>>> people like Warman and Big Al stick around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> You're being funny, right? The irony is too thick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dwight
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, and it is, but only because of that question.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jason
>>>> Fine. I'll spell it out for you.
>>>>
>>>> "It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman
>>>> and Big Al stick around."
>>>>
>>>> And here you are.
>>>>
>>> Now don't get all sassy on me. It's just sad to come here, because
>>> this group used to be really good. It's not now.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason
>>
>> So bring something to the table, rather than complain about the
>> content. I don't know how many times it has to be said - the
>> newsgroup is made by those who post, not by those who read.
>>
>> Patrick's been putting his mass-media puke out here for over a
>> decade. Newbies have been posting the same damn questions as long as
>> I've been here (and I was one, myself). As with anything else, if you
>> don't like the show, change the channel. But in THIS case, you have
>> the ability to control the content of the show, to an extent.
>>
>> dwight
>>
>>
>
> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about
> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison.
>
> You know what? I will, just as soon as I find an AP story about
> something vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama
> jama in RAMFM!!!

J, when did you start posting? Just curious.

>>> Jason
>>
>> So bring something to the table, rather than complain about the content.
>> I don't know how many times it has to be said - the newsgroup is made by
>> those who post, not by those who read.
>>
>> Patrick's been putting his mass-media puke out here for over a decade.
>> Newbies have been posting the same damn questions as long as I've been
>> here (and I was one, myself). As with anything else, if you don't like
>> the show, change the channel. But in THIS case, you have the ability to
>> control the content of the show, to an extent.
>>
>> dwight
>>
>>
>
> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about
> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison.
>
> You know what? I will, just as soon as I find an AP story about something
> vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama jama in RAMFM!!!
>
> --
> Jason

Slip off your meds again Jason? Not much you can do will alter your status
a sniveling little brown nosing twit, with an enormously over inflated
opinion of yourself and your meager automobile knowledge.

Jason O wrote:
> dwight wrote:
>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> dwight wrote:
>>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>>> . ..
>>>>> dwight wrote:
>>>>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> CobraJet wrote:
>>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power
>>>>>>>> Brakes? What
>>>>>>>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They have
>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>> page ads in many of the trade magazines and constantly come out
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> new stuff. Finally you get spammed by an ON Topic company and it's
>>>>>>>> instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or if
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the
>>>>>>>> best shot
>>>>>>>> at it. Man, are you out of touch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, this group has really gone to ****. All I see is Patrick
>>>>>>> doing his normal mass-media puke, and a few clueless newbies.
>>>>>>> The newbies would be best served taking their newbie questions to
>>>>>>> web forums. It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people
>>>>>>> like Warman and Big Al stick around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> You're being funny, right? The irony is too thick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dwight
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, and it is, but only because of that question.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jason
>>>> Fine. I'll spell it out for you.
>>>>
>>>> "It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman
>>>> and Big Al stick around."
>>>>
>>>> And here you are.
>>>>
>>> Now don't get all sassy on me. It's just sad to come here, because
>>> this group used to be really good. It's not now.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason
>>
>> So bring something to the table, rather than complain about the
>> content. I don't know how many times it has to be said - the newsgroup
>> is made by those who post, not by those who read.
>>
>> Patrick's been putting his mass-media puke out here for over a decade.
>> Newbies have been posting the same damn questions as long as I've been
>> here (and I was one, myself). As with anything else, if you don't like
>> the show, change the channel. But in THIS case, you have the ability
>> to control the content of the show, to an extent.
>>
>> dwight
>>
>>
>
> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about
> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison.
>
> You know what? I will, just as soon as I find an AP story about
> something vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama jama
> in RAMFM!!!

I guess you didn't get the memo. ramfm is now more of a social club
than hard core tech. Either way, I find it entertaining. YMMV

Joe wrote:
> Jason O > wrote in
> :
>
>> dwight wrote:
>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>> dwight wrote:
>>>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>>>> . ..
>>>>>> dwight wrote:
>>>>>>> "Jason O" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> CobraJet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> WF and the Froggenator have never heard of Master Power
>>>>>>>>> Brakes?
>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>> planet have you guys been on for tha last two decades? They
>>>>>>>>> have full page ads in many of the trade magazines and
>>>>>>>>> constantly come out with new stuff. Finally you get spammed by
>>>>>>>>> an ON Topic company and it's instantly "PANTIES IN A BUNCH!!!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know if they are "#1" in the brake aftermarket, or
>>>>>>>>> if that
>>>>>>>>> can even be accurately determined, but they probably have the
>>>>>>>>> best shot
>>>>>>>>> at it. Man, are you out of touch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, this group has really gone to ****. All I see is Patrick
>>>>>>>> doing his normal mass-media puke, and a few clueless newbies.
>>>>>>>> The newbies would be best served taking their newbie questions
>>>>>>>> to web forums. It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable
>>>>>>>> people like Warman and Big Al stick around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>> You're being funny, right? The irony is too thick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dwight
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, and it is, but only because of that question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>> Fine. I'll spell it out for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> "It's amazing to me that actually knowledgeable people like Warman
>>>>> and Big Al stick around."
>>>>>
>>>>> And here you are.
>>>>>
>>>> Now don't get all sassy on me. It's just sad to come here, because
>>>> this group used to be really good. It's not now.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jason
>>> So bring something to the table, rather than complain about the
>>> content. I don't know how many times it has to be said - the
>>> newsgroup is made by those who post, not by those who read.
>>>
>>> Patrick's been putting his mass-media puke out here for over a
>>> decade. Newbies have been posting the same damn questions as long as
>>> I've been here (and I was one, myself). As with anything else, if you
>>> don't like the show, change the channel. But in THIS case, you have
>>> the ability to control the content of the show, to an extent.
>>>
>>> dwight
>>>
>>>
>> Oh and I'm so impressed. My first Usenet posts pre-date just about
>> everyone's here, so long as we're doing that tired comparison.
>>
>> You know what? I will, just as soon as I find an AP story about
>> something vaguely on-topic. I will post the URL and be a bad mama
>> jama in RAMFM!!!
>
> J, when did you start posting? Just curious.

Hey Joe. Is this a leading question? ;-) I got the C-code in Oct.
'95, so I'd imagine it was sometime right around then.

--
Jason