Auto Paint Query

On 29 Jul, 21:59, Mercellus Bohren > wrote:
> I decided to do some touch-up painting on my car where the road
> pebbles had dinged the paint on the hood in the front near the
> headlight. I ordered the correct touch-up paint based on the paint
> color number. I guess I got a little overzealous in my usage, because
> now I have a pretty funny looking patchwork of obvious touch-up paint
> swatches in about a six-inch area of the car hood (or bonnet for you
> brit-holes). There are also a couple of other small spots that look
> funny.
>
> A local auto body place does computer paint matching. Can I have them
> just paint these areas, or will they want to paint the whole car? How
> much do you think to just touch-up my rsfck-up?
>
> Thanks for any useful information.

I wouldn't waste your money if I was you. What you should do is get
all your cash and blow it on crack and prostitutes, believe me you
won't regret it. However if you are adamant, a garage near me called
Turd Polishers Ltd will do it for fifty quid.

PS, Do you know a good cure for itchy ********?

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:52:07 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
wrote:

>KLS > wrote in news:3kdv84la7reqit06ka3kplnuldhfn18261@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT), Mercellus Bohren
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I am hearing impaired and like to use the internet newsgroups if
>>>possible, before I go in and have someone take advantage of my
>>>disability.
>>
>> Mercellus, I am totally sympathetic to this,
>
>Don't be. At least not until he gives some sort of details
>about his "impairment".

Excuse me? Why does s/he owe you or anyone else "details about his
'impairment'"? My interpretation, which no doubt you will reject, is
that s/he is not comfortable making inquiries on the telephone (which,
as Doug Miller pointed out, can be worked around by using the various
relay services, but which are cumbersome compared with the ease that
non-hearing-impaired people use the phone), or s/he may not understand
people clearly when talking to them in person. Regardless, the OP is
expressing a not uncommon feeling of uncertainty about the information
being gathered, especially as a member of a group of people famously
disconnected and cut off from the incidental flow of information you
(presumably hearing as more than 90% of the populace is) take for
granted. Some day you might be in this category, you know, and you'd
appreciate a little sensitivity and respect.

KLS > wrote in news:r2gv849j8hi96bauuq5uv6s75s8tg45pgb@
4ax.com:

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:52:07 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
> wrote:
>
>>KLS > wrote in news:3kdv84la7reqit06ka3kplnuldhfn18261@
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT), Mercellus Bohren
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am hearing impaired and like to use the internet newsgroups if
>>>>possible, before I go in and have someone take advantage of my
>>>>disability.
>>>
>>> Mercellus, I am totally sympathetic to this,
>>
>>Don't be. At least not until he gives some sort of details
>>about his "impairment".
>
> Excuse me? Why does s/he owe you or anyone else "details about his
> 'impairment'"? My interpretation, which no doubt you will reject, is
> that s/he is not comfortable making inquiries on the telephone (which,
> as Doug Miller pointed out, can be worked around by using the various
> relay services, but which are cumbersome compared with the ease that
> non-hearing-impaired people use the phone), or s/he may not understand
> people clearly when talking to them in person. Regardless, the OP is
> expressing a not uncommon feeling of uncertainty about the information
> being gathered, especially as a member of a group of people famously
> disconnected and cut off from the incidental flow of information you
> (presumably hearing as more than 90% of the populace is) take for
> granted. Some day you might be in this category, you know, and you'd
> appreciate a little sensitivity and respect.



I AM in that category, hence my posts.



--
Tegger

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:24:44 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
wrote:

>KLS > wrote in news:r2gv849j8hi96bauuq5uv6s75s8tg45pgb@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:52:07 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>KLS > wrote in news:3kdv84la7reqit06ka3kplnuldhfn18261@
>>>4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT), Mercellus Bohren
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am hearing impaired and like to use the internet newsgroups if
>>>>>possible, before I go in and have someone take advantage of my
>>>>>disability.
>>>>
>>>> Mercellus, I am totally sympathetic to this,
>>>
>>>Don't be. At least not until he gives some sort of details
>>>about his "impairment".
>>
>> Excuse me? Why does s/he owe you or anyone else "details about his
>> 'impairment'"? My interpretation, which no doubt you will reject, is
>> that s/he is not comfortable making inquiries on the telephone (which,
>> as Doug Miller pointed out, can be worked around by using the various
>> relay services, but which are cumbersome compared with the ease that
>> non-hearing-impaired people use the phone), or s/he may not understand
>> people clearly when talking to them in person. Regardless, the OP is
>> expressing a not uncommon feeling of uncertainty about the information
>> being gathered, especially as a member of a group of people famously
>> disconnected and cut off from the incidental flow of information you
>> (presumably hearing as more than 90% of the populace is) take for
>> granted. Some day you might be in this category, you know, and you'd
>> appreciate a little sensitivity and respect.
>
>I AM in that category, hence my posts.

I still don't understand why you need details about his/her disability
before allowing yourself to be sympathetic. Is there some "I'm more
deaf than you" standard of yours s/he has to meet?

PanHandler wrote:
> "Mercellus Bohren" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Jul 29, 4:57 pm, "PanHandler" > wrote:
>> "Mercellus Bohren" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I'm sure prices vary. But, say they wanted to paint the whole hood.
>> What would the going rate be for just that at decent auto body
>> shop?
>> I really don't have a clue what something like this would cost.
>> I've
>> searched the web of semi-useless info, and I can't seem to get a
>> fix
>> on the dollars.
>>
>> Figure six hours at local labor rates plus around $40 in materials
>> to do the
>> entire hood.
>
> Looks to be $40-45 an hour around these parts. So, maybe around
> $300.
>
> Do you know if they can take a swipe at touching up small areas on
> the
> side of the car, without having to paint an entire door, or quarter-
> panel, etc.?
>
> Same likelihood as the hood I would imagine.

The trouble with "touching up small areas" is that the paint, even
with computerized color-matching, is never an _exact_ match, so just
touching up a small spot leaves a visible repair. The way around it
is to use the spray gun to "blend" the color over a relatively wide
area resulting in a gradual color change that isn't noticeable.

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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On Jul 29, 4:59*pm, Mercellus Bohren > wrote:
> I decided to do some touch-up painting on my car where the road
> pebbles had dinged the paint on the hood in the front near the
> headlight. I ordered the correct touch-up paint based on the paint
> color number. I guess I got a little overzealous in my usage, because
> now I have a pretty funny looking patchwork of obvious touch-up paint
> swatches in about a six-inch area of the car hood (or bonnet for you
> brit-holes). There are also a couple of other small spots that look
> funny.
>
> A local auto body place does computer paint matching. Can I have them
> just paint these areas, or will they want to paint the whole car? How
> much do you think to just touch-up my rsfck-up?
>
> Thanks for any useful information.

Is this the old SAAB? If so, roll that thing into Earl Scheib and
tell 'em you want the $300 special.

You might want to ask if you can stick around and help 'em tape it, so
they don't paint your tires, rims, and windows.

While we're on the topic, what appears to be the clear coat on my 95
BMW has blistered and cracked in a few spots on the trunk lid -
must've been bird turd - any recommendations for that?

a.

"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
...
> The trouble with "touching up small areas" is that the paint, even
> with computerized color-matching, is never an _exact_ match, so just
> touching up a small spot leaves a visible repair. The way around it
> is to use the spray gun to "blend" the color over a relatively wide
> area resulting in a gradual color change that isn't noticeable.

I've found that touch-up paint is always darker than the real paint of the
car - even on areas such as the sill of the boot/trunk or of the doors which
don't see much sunlight so can't fade as a result of this. I've found that
the best match comes from cleaning the brush in the lide of the tube of
touch-up paint and then dipping it into the very top of the paint (which has
been allowed to settle for a long time beforehand without shaking) so as to
get the most dilute concentration of pigment in the base material. I know
this goes against the advice to shake the paint throughly beforehand!

Providing the undercoat is the same colour as the top coat (*) then maybe
it's better to cover it with clear lacquer rather than paint.


(*) I once had a car with dark green paint that had been applied on a white
undercoat, so the least little scratch or stone chip showed up as white :-(

"Mercellus Bohren" > wrote in message
...

> I decided to do some touch-up painting on my car where the road
> pebbles had dinged the paint on the hood in the front near the
> headlight. I ordered the correct touch-up paint based on the paint
> color number. I guess I got a little overzealous in my usage, because
> now I have a pretty funny looking patchwork of obvious touch-up paint

Touch up paint in the $5 sticks requires real skill to apply
(almost invisibly) Spray cans of touch up paint (custom-
mixed, about $25) require much less skill to apply
invisibly, so long as you apply thinnest coats over the
largest area.

To restore shine, most paint repairs also require a
top coat of uncoloured shiny finish, also available to
the maker's specifications from specialist paint mixing shops.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

> wrote in message
...

Is this the old SAAB? If so, roll that thing into Earl Scheib and
tell 'em you want the $300 special.

You might want to ask if you can stick around and help 'em tape it, so
they don't paint your tires, rims, and windows.

While we're on the topic, what appears to be the clear coat on my 95
BMW has blistered and cracked in a few spots on the trunk lid -
must've been bird turd - any recommendations for that?

How would the overspray hit the "rims" and not the entire wheel? :-)

It's a good thing elephants don't fly!

On Jul 30, 7:20*am, "
> wrote:
> On Jul 29, 4:59*pm, Mercellus Bohren > wrote:
>
> > I decided to do some touch-up painting on my car where the road
> > pebbles had dinged the paint on the hood in the front near the
> > headlight. I ordered the correct touch-up paint based on the paint
> > color number. I guess I got a little overzealous in my usage, because
> > now I have a pretty funny looking patchwork of obvious touch-up paint
> > swatches in about a six-inch area of the car hood (or bonnet for you
> > brit-holes). There are also a couple of other small spots that look
> > funny.
>
> > A local auto body place does computer paint matching. Can I have them
> > just paint these areas, or will they want to paint the whole car? How
> > much do you think to just touch-up my rsfck-up?
>
> > Thanks for any useful information.
>
> Is this the old SAAB? *If so, roll that thing into Earl Scheib and
> tell 'em you want the $300 special.
>

My old '97 Saab died on the operating table at the Saab Specialist a
couple of weeks ago. She was never the same after I drove her
underwater for a few seconds a year or so ago. I bought a low-mileage
2002 Saab 95 3.0t V6 Arc. It's got air-conditioned seats! The paint is
still good on it, so I think I'll just get the body shop guys to take
a look and see what they can do.