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My DUI Charges Dropped! A Great Argument
In article >, Kent Wills wrote:
>>C(r)ook county IL. > > Must be something new since 1992, when I moved from > Chicagoland. No. even at the mas cattle calls there's one there. He usually just stands there doing nothing. >>> Which has NOTHING to do with what I wrote. >> >>It shows a disinterest in justice. >> > > But it has NOTHING to do with my statement that the prosecutor > will drop the charges when the evidence shows the defendant is > innocent. Your reply to that portion of my post is a complete non > sequitur. You missed the point, if you're innocent in traffic court, the charges aren't getting dropped. |
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My DUI Charges Dropped! A Great Argument
In article >,
Kent Wills > wrote: > Most prosecutors are honestly interested in justice. When >it's clear that the evidence shows the defendant is innocent, the >prosecutor will drop the charges since justice will not be served by >convicting an innocent person. I'm sure it happens every day in the >United States. Please. Prosecutors, like cops, don't believe in innocent suspects. They follow Ed Meese's philosophy of "if they were innocent, they wouldn't be suspects". -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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My DUI Charges Dropped! A Great Argument
On Apr 26, 6:15 pm, Kent Wills > wrote:
> Now I'm wondering about traffic court. In Iowa there is no > prosecutor for traffic court. And I'm not aware of any other states > that have one. Wisconsin and Ohio both use prosecutors in all traffic courts. In fact, I had no idea there were places where there *wasn't* a prosecutor used for traffic offenses. How the hell do they do that? The officer is both a witness for the state and *represents* the state? No conflicts of interest *there*, huh? -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; done that) |
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My DUI Charges Dropped! A Great Argument
In article > , Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
> In article >, > Kent Wills > wrote: > >> Most prosecutors are honestly interested in justice. When >>it's clear that the evidence shows the defendant is innocent, the >>prosecutor will drop the charges since justice will not be served by >>convicting an innocent person. I'm sure it happens every day in the >>United States. > > Please. Prosecutors, like cops, don't believe in innocent suspects. > They follow Ed Meese's philosophy of "if they were innocent, they > wouldn't be suspects". That model is becoming obsolete and replaced with the 'everyone is guilty of something model'. |
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My DUI Charges Dropped! A Great Argument
In article .com>,
Motorhead Lawyer > wrote: >Wisconsin and Ohio both use prosecutors in all traffic courts. In >fact, I had no idea there were places where there *wasn't* a >prosecutor used for traffic offenses. > >How the hell do they do that? The officer is both a witness for the >state and *represents* the state? No conflicts of interest *there*, >huh? Heck, it's worse than that. In all states, a judge -- who works for the very same state as the prosecutor and the cop -- decides the case. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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My DUI Charges Dropped! A Great Argument
In article > , Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
> In article .com>, > Motorhead Lawyer > wrote: > >>Wisconsin and Ohio both use prosecutors in all traffic courts. In >>fact, I had no idea there were places where there *wasn't* a >>prosecutor used for traffic offenses. >> >>How the hell do they do that? The officer is both a witness for the >>state and *represents* the state? No conflicts of interest *there*, >>huh? > > Heck, it's worse than that. In all states, a judge -- who works for the > very same state as the prosecutor and the cop -- decides the case. That's even becoming obsolete. The newer laws I've been seeing attempted (some may even be in place) don't even offer that. You're automatically found guilty by being accused and if you pay a fee larger than the initial ticket to file an _APPEAL_ you come before a cop assigned by the local government to judge the appeal. How's that for fair? Trial by jury my ass. And then, jury trials... recently had jury duty... sitting in the court room, watching the selection process. The people called into the box are being asked by the judge if they can render a judgement under the law as the judge tells it to them. Mind you, no reading of their own of the law, no judgement on their own if the law is constitutional, just apply it as he says so. The new soviet amerika... isn't it grand? |
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My DUI Charges Dropped! A Great Argument
As I understand it, on 27 Apr 2007 11:30:07 -0700, Motorhead Lawyer
> wrote: >On Apr 26, 6:15 pm, Kent Wills > wrote: > >> Now I'm wondering about traffic court. In Iowa there is no >> prosecutor for traffic court. And I'm not aware of any other states >> that have one. > >Wisconsin and Ohio both use prosecutors in all traffic courts. In >fact, I had no idea there were places where there *wasn't* a >prosecutor used for traffic offenses. We have both learned something new. > >How the hell do they do that? The officer is both a witness for the >state and *represents* the state? No conflicts of interest *there*, >huh? I Iowa it's similar in some respects to small claims. Each side presents it's version of events and presents any evidence they have. The judge rules based on the testimony and evidence. -- Kent Bless me, Father, for I have committed an original sin. I poked a badger with a spoon. |
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