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  #11  
Old April 21st 12, 09:10 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Ringo[_2_]
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Default ABS>>>So Confusing

On Apr 14, 10:09*pm, Jeroen Feelders > wrote:
> Have a look at this picture from the miata.net forum:http://www.harrisonindustrial.com/im...a/IMG_0159.JPG
>
> The silver block is the ABS-regulator with the brakelines to all 4
> wheels coming out on the top. No regulator? No ABS!
>
> Jeroen
> Technical Commissioner
> Mazda MX-5 Club of the Netherlandshttp://www.mx5club.nlhttp://miata.feelders.com
>
> Op 10-04-12 03:11, Ringo schreef:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have a 2000 MX5 Miata, and had gotten my Insurance Company to reduce
> > our premium for our three vehicles by quite a bit, by driving so few
> > miles on all three (Being reteired). Paid my premium in full to Liberty
> > Mutual for both Home & Auto. Today in the mail get a couple of thank you
> > letters, for renewing, but after sending our mileage declaration back
> > with the most accurate odometer reading, my savings was reduced, PLUS
> > they said that they removed the ABS feature for my Miata. I asked why,
> > being sure the car has ABS. She said that the VIN number does not show
> > ABS. I told her that it did. So she credited back THAT $10. So I looked
> > closer, the manual says SOME CARS have ABS. My instrument panel shows a
> > brake WARNING light, but NOT the ABS light. The following site confused
> > me even mo

>
> >http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347570

>
> > So I read that site, then decided to look under the hood myself. Still
> > wasn't sure, till I came upon the fuse block/holder that is under the
> > hood. The cover of that fuse block holder shows a 20A ABS fuse on its'
> > cover. AND when I opened it, that 20A fuse is in fact there, where the
> > cover's diagram designates it. So having that fuse, where the diagram
> > shows ABS, does that indicate that I in fact do have ABS. Obviously $10..
> > is not that big a deal. But I surely do not want to give them an excuse
> > to deny a claim, being how some insurance companies can be???!!!

>
> > TIA for any info


Thanks. I don't think I have that then. But if I get into a wreck and
they call me on that lousy $10. it would have cost me, I will just act
dumber than I look>>LOL>>, pointing to the Fuse holder, saying "There
is an ABS 20A fuse designated there, and IN PLACE!" I can't believe
that a BIG reputable (Have had them a number of years, GREAT RATES,
even beating my AARP/Hartford rates I had), company would nickle and
dime PPL for a lousy $10.00 just because they said that my VIN #
indicated NO ABS. I told them, apparently mistakenly now, that it
does, based on that FUSE.

Thanks for all your inputs :-)
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  #12  
Old April 23rd 12, 04:00 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
charlie
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Default ABS>>>So Confusing

On 4/21/2012 4:10 PM, Ringo wrote:
> On Apr 14, 10:09 pm, Jeroen > wrote:
>> Have a look at this picture from the miata.net forum:http://www.harrisonindustrial.com/im...a/IMG_0159.JPG
>>
>> The silver block is the ABS-regulator with the brakelines to all 4
>> wheels coming out on the top. No regulator? No ABS!
>>
>> Jeroen
>> Technical Commissioner
>> Mazda MX-5 Club of the Netherlandshttp://www.mx5club.nlhttp://miata.feelders.com
>>
>> Op 10-04-12 03:11, Ringo schreef:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have a 2000 MX5 Miata, and had gotten my Insurance Company to reduce
>>> our premium for our three vehicles by quite a bit, by driving so few
>>> miles on all three (Being reteired). Paid my premium in full to Liberty
>>> Mutual for both Home& Auto. Today in the mail get a couple of thank you
>>> letters, for renewing, but after sending our mileage declaration back
>>> with the most accurate odometer reading, my savings was reduced, PLUS
>>> they said that they removed the ABS feature for my Miata. I asked why,
>>> being sure the car has ABS. She said that the VIN number does not show
>>> ABS. I told her that it did. So she credited back THAT $10. So I looked
>>> closer, the manual says SOME CARS have ABS. My instrument panel shows a
>>> brake WARNING light, but NOT the ABS light. The following site confused
>>> me even mo

>>
>>> http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347570

>>
>>> So I read that site, then decided to look under the hood myself. Still
>>> wasn't sure, till I came upon the fuse block/holder that is under the
>>> hood. The cover of that fuse block holder shows a 20A ABS fuse on its'
>>> cover. AND when I opened it, that 20A fuse is in fact there, where the
>>> cover's diagram designates it. So having that fuse, where the diagram
>>> shows ABS, does that indicate that I in fact do have ABS. Obviously $10.
>>> is not that big a deal. But I surely do not want to give them an excuse
>>> to deny a claim, being how some insurance companies can be???!!!

>>
>>> TIA for any info

>
> Thanks. I don't think I have that then. But if I get into a wreck and
> they call me on that lousy $10. it would have cost me, I will just act
> dumber than I look>>LOL>>, pointing to the Fuse holder, saying "There
> is an ABS 20A fuse designated there, and IN PLACE!" I can't believe
> that a BIG reputable (Have had them a number of years, GREAT RATES,
> even beating my AARP/Hartford rates I had), company would nickle and
> dime PPL for a lousy $10.00 just because they said that my VIN #
> indicated NO ABS. I told them, apparently mistakenly now, that it
> does, based on that FUSE.
>
> Thanks for all your inputs :-)


They might not pay is the problem!
  #13  
Old April 23rd 12, 03:46 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Ringo[_2_]
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Default ABS>>>So Confusing

On Apr 22, 8:00*pm, charlie > wrote:
> On 4/21/2012 4:10 PM, Ringo wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 10:09 pm, Jeroen > *wrote:
> >> Have a look at this picture from the miata.net forum:http://www.harrisonindustrial.com/im...a/IMG_0159.JPG

>
> >> The silver block is the ABS-regulator with the brakelines to all 4
> >> wheels coming out on the top. No regulator? No ABS!

>
> >> Jeroen
> >> Technical Commissioner
> >> Mazda MX-5 Club of the Netherlandshttp://www.mx5club.nlhttp://miata.feelders.com

>
> >> Op 10-04-12 03:11, Ringo schreef:

>
> >>> I have a 2000 MX5 Miata, and had gotten my Insurance Company to reduce
> >>> our premium for our three vehicles by quite a bit, by driving so few
> >>> miles on all three (Being reteired). Paid my premium in full to Liberty
> >>> Mutual for both Home& *Auto. Today in the mail get a couple of thank you
> >>> letters, for renewing, but after sending our mileage declaration back
> >>> with the most accurate odometer reading, my savings was reduced, PLUS
> >>> they said that they removed the ABS feature for my Miata. I asked why,
> >>> being sure the car has ABS. She said that the VIN number does not show
> >>> ABS. I told her that it did. So she credited back THAT $10. So I looked
> >>> closer, the manual says SOME CARS have ABS. My instrument panel shows a
> >>> brake WARNING light, but NOT the ABS light. The following site confused
> >>> me even mo

>
> >>>http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347570

>
> >>> So I read that site, then decided to look under the hood myself. Still
> >>> wasn't sure, till I came upon the fuse block/holder that is under the
> >>> hood. The cover of that fuse block holder shows a 20A ABS fuse on its'
> >>> cover. AND when I opened it, that 20A fuse is in fact there, where the
> >>> cover's diagram designates it. So having that fuse, where the diagram
> >>> shows ABS, does that indicate that I in fact do have ABS. Obviously $10.
> >>> is not that big a deal. But I surely do not want to give them an excuse
> >>> to deny a claim, being how some insurance companies can be???!!!

>
> >>> TIA for any info

>
> > Thanks. I don't think I have that then. But if I get into a wreck and
> > they call me on that lousy $10. it would have cost me, I will just act
> > dumber than I look>>LOL>>, pointing to the Fuse holder, saying "There
> > is an ABS 20A fuse designated there, and IN PLACE!" I can't believe
> > that a BIG reputable (Have had them a number of years, GREAT RATES,
> > even beating my AARP/Hartford rates I had), company would nickle and
> > dime PPL for a lousy $10.00 just because they said that my VIN #
> > indicated NO ABS. I told them, apparently mistakenly now, that it
> > does, based on that FUSE.

>
> > Thanks for all your inputs :-)

>
> They might not pay is the problem!


If I get into a bad wreck in that little car, there probably won't be
enough left to see what's left/is under the hood>>LOL. One time coming
back from the Calif Central coast, on U..S. 101, I was moving along at
my usual 80MPH>>LOL> enjoying the view of the nearby hills, and
THANKFULLY looked up in time to see that the traffic up ahead and come
to a STOP. WHEW, if I had not looked up, another 30 secs, and I and my
Wife would have been HISTORY, not to mention the poor SCHMUCK I would
have run into. That area SUCKS (Mostly Morgan Hill). You have to keep
those eyeballs ON THE ROAD :-)
  #14  
Old April 23rd 12, 05:12 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
charlie
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Default ABS>>>So Confusing

On 4/23/2012 10:46 AM, Ringo wrote:
> On Apr 22, 8:00 pm, > wrote:
>> On 4/21/2012 4:10 PM, Ringo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 14, 10:09 pm, Jeroen > wrote:
>>>> Have a look at this picture from the miata.net forum:http://www.harrisonindustrial.com/im...a/IMG_0159.JPG

>>
>>>> The silver block is the ABS-regulator with the brakelines to all 4
>>>> wheels coming out on the top. No regulator? No ABS!

>>
>>>> Jeroen
>>>> Technical Commissioner
>>>> Mazda MX-5 Club of the Netherlandshttp://www.mx5club.nlhttp://miata.feelders.com

>>
>>>> Op 10-04-12 03:11, Ringo schreef:

>>
>>>>> I have a 2000 MX5 Miata, and had gotten my Insurance Company to reduce
>>>>> our premium for our three vehicles by quite a bit, by driving so few
>>>>> miles on all three (Being reteired). Paid my premium in full to Liberty
>>>>> Mutual for both Home& Auto. Today in the mail get a couple of thank you
>>>>> letters, for renewing, but after sending our mileage declaration back
>>>>> with the most accurate odometer reading, my savings was reduced, PLUS
>>>>> they said that they removed the ABS feature for my Miata. I asked why,
>>>>> being sure the car has ABS. She said that the VIN number does not show
>>>>> ABS. I told her that it did. So she credited back THAT $10. So I looked
>>>>> closer, the manual says SOME CARS have ABS. My instrument panel shows a
>>>>> brake WARNING light, but NOT the ABS light. The following site confused
>>>>> me even mo

>>
>>>>> http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347570

>>
>>>>> So I read that site, then decided to look under the hood myself. Still
>>>>> wasn't sure, till I came upon the fuse block/holder that is under the
>>>>> hood. The cover of that fuse block holder shows a 20A ABS fuse on its'
>>>>> cover. AND when I opened it, that 20A fuse is in fact there, where the
>>>>> cover's diagram designates it. So having that fuse, where the diagram
>>>>> shows ABS, does that indicate that I in fact do have ABS. Obviously $10.
>>>>> is not that big a deal. But I surely do not want to give them an excuse
>>>>> to deny a claim, being how some insurance companies can be???!!!

>>
>>>>> TIA for any info

>>
>>> Thanks. I don't think I have that then. But if I get into a wreck and
>>> they call me on that lousy $10. it would have cost me, I will just act
>>> dumber than I look>>LOL>>, pointing to the Fuse holder, saying "There
>>> is an ABS 20A fuse designated there, and IN PLACE!" I can't believe
>>> that a BIG reputable (Have had them a number of years, GREAT RATES,
>>> even beating my AARP/Hartford rates I had), company would nickle and
>>> dime PPL for a lousy $10.00 just because they said that my VIN #
>>> indicated NO ABS. I told them, apparently mistakenly now, that it
>>> does, based on that FUSE.

>>
>>> Thanks for all your inputs :-)

>>
>> They might not pay is the problem!

>
> If I get into a bad wreck in that little car, there probably won't be
> enough left to see what's left/is under the hood>>LOL. One time coming
> back from the Calif Central coast, on U..S. 101, I was moving along at
> my usual 80MPH>>LOL> enjoying the view of the nearby hills, and
> THANKFULLY looked up in time to see that the traffic up ahead and come
> to a STOP. WHEW, if I had not looked up, another 30 secs, and I and my
> Wife would have been HISTORY, not to mention the poor SCHMUCK I would
> have run into. That area SUCKS (Mostly Morgan Hill). You have to keep
> those eyeballs ON THE ROAD :-)

Actually, over the years, several of the local club members have gotten
into wrecks, up to really totaling the Miata and so forth. The car is
actually well built, and for it's size, quite rugged. Sheet metal and
designed collapsing areas protect the occupants and help minimize power
train damage. All that aside, you are correct, but if the adjuster
happens to look under the hood, there can be problems.
  #15  
Old April 24th 12, 03:40 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Ringo[_2_]
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Default ABS>>>So Confusing

On Apr 23, 9:12*am, charlie > wrote:
> On 4/23/2012 10:46 AM, Ringo wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 8:00 pm, > *wrote:
> >> On 4/21/2012 4:10 PM, Ringo wrote:

>
> >>> On Apr 14, 10:09 pm, Jeroen > * *wrote:
> >>>> Have a look at this picture from the miata.net forum:http://www.harrisonindustrial.com/im...a/IMG_0159.JPG

>
> >>>> The silver block is the ABS-regulator with the brakelines to all 4
> >>>> wheels coming out on the top. No regulator? No ABS!

>
> >>>> Jeroen
> >>>> Technical Commissioner
> >>>> Mazda MX-5 Club of the Netherlandshttp://www.mx5club.nlhttp://miata.feelders.com

>
> >>>> Op 10-04-12 03:11, Ringo schreef:

>
> >>>>> I have a 2000 MX5 Miata, and had gotten my Insurance Company to reduce
> >>>>> our premium for our three vehicles by quite a bit, by driving so few
> >>>>> miles on all three (Being reteired). Paid my premium in full to Liberty
> >>>>> Mutual for both Home& * *Auto. Today in the mail get a couple of thank you
> >>>>> letters, for renewing, but after sending our mileage declaration back
> >>>>> with the most accurate odometer reading, my savings was reduced, PLUS
> >>>>> they said that they removed the ABS feature for my Miata. I asked why,
> >>>>> being sure the car has ABS. She said that the VIN number does not show
> >>>>> ABS. I told her that it did. So she credited back THAT $10. So I looked
> >>>>> closer, the manual says SOME CARS have ABS. My instrument panel shows a
> >>>>> brake WARNING light, but NOT the ABS light. The following site confused
> >>>>> me even mo

>
> >>>>>http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347570

>
> >>>>> So I read that site, then decided to look under the hood myself. Still
> >>>>> wasn't sure, till I came upon the fuse block/holder that is under the
> >>>>> hood. The cover of that fuse block holder shows a 20A ABS fuse on its'
> >>>>> cover. AND when I opened it, that 20A fuse is in fact there, where the
> >>>>> cover's diagram designates it. So having that fuse, where the diagram
> >>>>> shows ABS, does that indicate that I in fact do have ABS. Obviously $10.
> >>>>> is not that big a deal. But I surely do not want to give them an excuse
> >>>>> to deny a claim, being how some insurance companies can be???!!!

>
> >>>>> TIA for any info

>
> >>> Thanks. I don't think I have that then. But if I get into a wreck and
> >>> they call me on that lousy $10. it would have cost me, I will just act
> >>> dumber than I look>>LOL>>, pointing to the Fuse holder, saying "There
> >>> is an ABS 20A fuse designated there, and IN PLACE!" I can't believe
> >>> that a BIG reputable (Have had them a number of years, GREAT RATES,
> >>> even beating my AARP/Hartford rates I had), company would nickle and
> >>> dime PPL for a lousy $10.00 just because they said that my VIN #
> >>> indicated NO ABS. I told them, apparently mistakenly now, that it
> >>> does, based on that FUSE.

>
> >>> Thanks for all your inputs :-)

>
> >> They might not pay is the problem!

>
> > If I get into a bad wreck in that little car, there probably won't be
> > enough left to see what's left/is under the hood>>LOL. One time coming
> > back from the Calif Central coast, on U..S. 101, I was moving along at
> > my usual 80MPH>>LOL> *enjoying the view of the nearby hills, and
> > THANKFULLY looked up in time to see that the traffic up ahead and come
> > to a STOP. WHEW, if I had not looked up, another 30 secs, and I and my
> > Wife would have been HISTORY, not to mention the poor SCHMUCK I would
> > have run into. That area SUCKS (Mostly Morgan Hill). You have to keep
> > those eyeballs ON THE ROAD :-)

>
> Actually, over the years, several of the local club members have gotten
> into wrecks, up to really totaling the Miata and so forth. The car is
> actually well built, and for it's size, quite rugged. Sheet metal and
> designed collapsing areas protect the occupants and help minimize power
> train damage. *All that aside, you are correct, but if the adjuster
> happens to look under the hood, there can be problems.


I called them today. Was prorated at just $9.00. Not worth worrying
over. Maybe Mazda decided to leave ABS off these since they are so
easy to handle/maneuver out of tight situations, even flying at 80
MPH>>LOL
  #16  
Old April 25th 12, 03:39 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
charlie
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Posts: 66
Default ABS>>>So Confusing

On 4/23/2012 10:40 PM, Ringo wrote:
> On Apr 23, 9:12 am, > wrote:
>> On 4/23/2012 10:46 AM, Ringo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 22, 8:00 pm, > wrote:
>>>> On 4/21/2012 4:10 PM, Ringo wrote:

>>
>>>>> On Apr 14, 10:09 pm, Jeroen > wrote:
>>>>>> Have a look at this picture from the miata.net forum:http://www.harrisonindustrial.com/im...a/IMG_0159.JPG

>>
>>>>>> The silver block is the ABS-regulator with the brakelines to all 4
>>>>>> wheels coming out on the top. No regulator? No ABS!

>>
>>>>>> Jeroen
>>>>>> Technical Commissioner
>>>>>> Mazda MX-5 Club of the Netherlandshttp://www.mx5club.nlhttp://miata.feelders.com

>>
>>>>>> Op 10-04-12 03:11, Ringo schreef:

>>
>>>>>>> I have a 2000 MX5 Miata, and had gotten my Insurance Company to reduce
>>>>>>> our premium for our three vehicles by quite a bit, by driving so few
>>>>>>> miles on all three (Being reteired). Paid my premium in full to Liberty
>>>>>>> Mutual for both Home& Auto. Today in the mail get a couple of thank you
>>>>>>> letters, for renewing, but after sending our mileage declaration back
>>>>>>> with the most accurate odometer reading, my savings was reduced, PLUS
>>>>>>> they said that they removed the ABS feature for my Miata. I asked why,
>>>>>>> being sure the car has ABS. She said that the VIN number does not show
>>>>>>> ABS. I told her that it did. So she credited back THAT $10. So I looked
>>>>>>> closer, the manual says SOME CARS have ABS. My instrument panel shows a
>>>>>>> brake WARNING light, but NOT the ABS light. The following site confused
>>>>>>> me even mo

>>
>>>>>>> http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347570

>>
>>>>>>> So I read that site, then decided to look under the hood myself. Still
>>>>>>> wasn't sure, till I came upon the fuse block/holder that is under the
>>>>>>> hood. The cover of that fuse block holder shows a 20A ABS fuse on its'
>>>>>>> cover. AND when I opened it, that 20A fuse is in fact there, where the
>>>>>>> cover's diagram designates it. So having that fuse, where the diagram
>>>>>>> shows ABS, does that indicate that I in fact do have ABS. Obviously $10.
>>>>>>> is not that big a deal. But I surely do not want to give them an excuse
>>>>>>> to deny a claim, being how some insurance companies can be???!!!

>>
>>>>>>> TIA for any info

>>
>>>>> Thanks. I don't think I have that then. But if I get into a wreck and
>>>>> they call me on that lousy $10. it would have cost me, I will just act
>>>>> dumber than I look>>LOL>>, pointing to the Fuse holder, saying "There
>>>>> is an ABS 20A fuse designated there, and IN PLACE!" I can't believe
>>>>> that a BIG reputable (Have had them a number of years, GREAT RATES,
>>>>> even beating my AARP/Hartford rates I had), company would nickle and
>>>>> dime PPL for a lousy $10.00 just because they said that my VIN #
>>>>> indicated NO ABS. I told them, apparently mistakenly now, that it
>>>>> does, based on that FUSE.

>>
>>>>> Thanks for all your inputs :-)

>>
>>>> They might not pay is the problem!

>>
>>> If I get into a bad wreck in that little car, there probably won't be
>>> enough left to see what's left/is under the hood>>LOL. One time coming
>>> back from the Calif Central coast, on U..S. 101, I was moving along at
>>> my usual 80MPH>>LOL> enjoying the view of the nearby hills, and
>>> THANKFULLY looked up in time to see that the traffic up ahead and come
>>> to a STOP. WHEW, if I had not looked up, another 30 secs, and I and my
>>> Wife would have been HISTORY, not to mention the poor SCHMUCK I would
>>> have run into. That area SUCKS (Mostly Morgan Hill). You have to keep
>>> those eyeballs ON THE ROAD :-)

>>
>> Actually, over the years, several of the local club members have gotten
>> into wrecks, up to really totaling the Miata and so forth. The car is
>> actually well built, and for it's size, quite rugged. Sheet metal and
>> designed collapsing areas protect the occupants and help minimize power
>> train damage. All that aside, you are correct, but if the adjuster
>> happens to look under the hood, there can be problems.

>
> I called them today. Was prorated at just $9.00. Not worth worrying
> over. Maybe Mazda decided to leave ABS off these since they are so
> easy to handle/maneuver out of tight situations, even flying at 80
> MPH>>LOL


There were model "variants" or different trim levels and markets.
For instance almost all automatics had ABS. Some of (but not all) of the
top trim levels with a manual transmission also had ABS.
My 99 LS (Leather) was arguably the version just below the anniversary
addition, and does not have ABS or a six speed manual. It seems to have
everything else, other than heated seats.
  #17  
Old April 26th 12, 03:23 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Ringo[_2_]
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Posts: 9
Default ABS>>>So Confusing

On Apr 24, 7:39*pm, charlie > wrote:
> On 4/23/2012 10:40 PM, Ringo wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 23, 9:12 am, > *wrote:
> >> On 4/23/2012 10:46 AM, Ringo wrote:

>
> >>> On Apr 22, 8:00 pm, > * *wrote:
> >>>> On 4/21/2012 4:10 PM, Ringo wrote:

>
> >>>>> On Apr 14, 10:09 pm, Jeroen > * * *wrote:
> >>>>>> Have a look at this picture from the miata.net forum:http://www.harrisonindustrial.com/im...a/IMG_0159.JPG

>
> >>>>>> The silver block is the ABS-regulator with the brakelines to all 4
> >>>>>> wheels coming out on the top. No regulator? No ABS!

>
> >>>>>> Jeroen
> >>>>>> Technical Commissioner
> >>>>>> Mazda MX-5 Club of the Netherlandshttp://www.mx5club.nlhttp://miata.feelders.com

>
> >>>>>> Op 10-04-12 03:11, Ringo schreef:

>
> >>>>>>> I have a 2000 MX5 Miata, and had gotten my Insurance Company to reduce
> >>>>>>> our premium for our three vehicles by quite a bit, by driving so few
> >>>>>>> miles on all three (Being reteired). Paid my premium in full to Liberty
> >>>>>>> Mutual for both Home& * * *Auto. Today in the mail get a couple of thank you
> >>>>>>> letters, for renewing, but after sending our mileage declaration back
> >>>>>>> with the most accurate odometer reading, my savings was reduced, PLUS
> >>>>>>> they said that they removed the ABS feature for my Miata. I asked why,
> >>>>>>> being sure the car has ABS. She said that the VIN number does not show
> >>>>>>> ABS. I told her that it did. So she credited back THAT $10. So I looked
> >>>>>>> closer, the manual says SOME CARS have ABS. My instrument panel shows a
> >>>>>>> brake WARNING light, but NOT the ABS light. The following site confused
> >>>>>>> me even mo

>
> >>>>>>>http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347570

>
> >>>>>>> So I read that site, then decided to look under the hood myself. Still
> >>>>>>> wasn't sure, till I came upon the fuse block/holder that is under the
> >>>>>>> hood. The cover of that fuse block holder shows a 20A ABS fuse on its'
> >>>>>>> cover. AND when I opened it, that 20A fuse is in fact there, where the
> >>>>>>> cover's diagram designates it. So having that fuse, where the diagram
> >>>>>>> shows ABS, does that indicate that I in fact do have ABS. Obviously $10.
> >>>>>>> is not that big a deal. But I surely do not want to give them an excuse
> >>>>>>> to deny a claim, being how some insurance companies can be???!!!

>
> >>>>>>> TIA for any info

>
> >>>>> Thanks. I don't think I have that then. But if I get into a wreck and
> >>>>> they call me on that lousy $10. it would have cost me, I will just act
> >>>>> dumber than I look>>LOL>>, pointing to the Fuse holder, saying "There
> >>>>> is an ABS 20A fuse designated there, and IN PLACE!" I can't believe
> >>>>> that a BIG reputable (Have had them a number of years, GREAT RATES,
> >>>>> even beating my AARP/Hartford rates I had), company would nickle and
> >>>>> dime PPL for a lousy $10.00 just because they said that my VIN #
> >>>>> indicated NO ABS. I told them, apparently mistakenly now, that it
> >>>>> does, based on that FUSE.

>
> >>>>> Thanks for all your inputs :-)

>
> >>>> They might not pay is the problem!

>
> >>> If I get into a bad wreck in that little car, there probably won't be
> >>> enough left to see what's left/is under the hood>>LOL. One time coming
> >>> back from the Calif Central coast, on U..S. 101, I was moving along at
> >>> my usual 80MPH>>LOL> * *enjoying the view of the nearby hills, and
> >>> THANKFULLY looked up in time to see that the traffic up ahead and come
> >>> to a STOP. WHEW, if I had not looked up, another 30 secs, and I and my
> >>> Wife would have been HISTORY, not to mention the poor SCHMUCK I would
> >>> have run into. That area SUCKS (Mostly Morgan Hill). You have to keep
> >>> those eyeballs ON THE ROAD :-)

>
> >> Actually, over the years, several of the local club members have gotten
> >> into wrecks, up to really totaling the Miata and so forth. The car is
> >> actually well built, and for it's size, quite rugged. Sheet metal and
> >> designed collapsing areas protect the occupants and help minimize power
> >> train damage. *All that aside, you are correct, but if the adjuster
> >> happens to look under the hood, there can be problems.

>
> > I called them today. Was prorated at just $9.00. Not worth worrying
> > over. Maybe Mazda decided to leave ABS off these since they are so
> > easy to handle/maneuver out of tight situations, even flying at 80
> > MPH>>LOL

>
> There were model "variants" or different trim levels and markets.
> For instance almost all automatics had ABS. Some of (but not all) of the
> top trim levels with a manual transmission also had ABS.
> My 99 LS (Leather) was arguably the version just below the anniversary
> addition, and does not have ABS or a six speed manual. It seems to have
> everything else, other than heated seats.


Mine is a 2000, with less than 35,000 original miles, an MX-5, that
seems to be pretty well trimmed out with nearly everything. But I have
cloth seats. Never liked leather, too sticky/hot in summer, etc., nice
audio system, AC, etc. The back seat is kind of tight though>>LOL
LOL :-). Never understood why they didn't come stock with roll bars.
I'd hate to get in a roll over. I've told my Wife, if we ever get in a
roll over wreck, do like in an airplane and get her head has tight as
she can between her knees. But that would be difficult heading to the
beach with our Jack Russell using her lap as a cushion>>LOL..

An Automatic??? Who in their right mind would want to own a little
roadster like that, and not drive a stick :-)???
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Old April 27th 12, 03:54 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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On 4/25/2012 10:23 PM, Ringo wrote:
> On Apr 24, 7:39 pm, > wrote:
>> On 4/23/2012 10:40 PM, Ringo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 23, 9:12 am, > wrote:
>>>> On 4/23/2012 10:46 AM, Ringo wrote:

>>
>>>>> On Apr 22, 8:00 pm, > wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/21/2012 4:10 PM, Ringo wrote:

>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 10:09 pm, Jeroen > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Have a look at this picture from the miata.net forum:http://www.harrisonindustrial.com/im...a/IMG_0159.JPG

>>
>>>>>>>> The silver block is the ABS-regulator with the brakelines to all 4
>>>>>>>> wheels coming out on the top. No regulator? No ABS!

>>
>>>>>>>> Jeroen
>>>>>>>> Technical Commissioner
>>>>>>>> Mazda MX-5 Club of the Netherlandshttp://www.mx5club.nlhttp://miata.feelders.com

>>
>>>>>>>> Op 10-04-12 03:11, Ringo schreef:

>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a 2000 MX5 Miata, and had gotten my Insurance Company to reduce
>>>>>>>>> our premium for our three vehicles by quite a bit, by driving so few
>>>>>>>>> miles on all three (Being reteired). Paid my premium in full to Liberty
>>>>>>>>> Mutual for both Home& Auto. Today in the mail get a couple of thank you
>>>>>>>>> letters, for renewing, but after sending our mileage declaration back
>>>>>>>>> with the most accurate odometer reading, my savings was reduced, PLUS
>>>>>>>>> they said that they removed the ABS feature for my Miata. I asked why,
>>>>>>>>> being sure the car has ABS. She said that the VIN number does not show
>>>>>>>>> ABS. I told her that it did. So she credited back THAT $10. So I looked
>>>>>>>>> closer, the manual says SOME CARS have ABS. My instrument panel shows a
>>>>>>>>> brake WARNING light, but NOT the ABS light. The following site confused
>>>>>>>>> me even mo

>>
>>>>>>>>> http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347570

>>
>>>>>>>>> So I read that site, then decided to look under the hood myself. Still
>>>>>>>>> wasn't sure, till I came upon the fuse block/holder that is under the
>>>>>>>>> hood. The cover of that fuse block holder shows a 20A ABS fuse on its'
>>>>>>>>> cover. AND when I opened it, that 20A fuse is in fact there, where the
>>>>>>>>> cover's diagram designates it. So having that fuse, where the diagram
>>>>>>>>> shows ABS, does that indicate that I in fact do have ABS. Obviously $10.
>>>>>>>>> is not that big a deal. But I surely do not want to give them an excuse
>>>>>>>>> to deny a claim, being how some insurance companies can be???!!!

>>
>>>>>>>>> TIA for any info

>>
>>>>>>> Thanks. I don't think I have that then. But if I get into a wreck and
>>>>>>> they call me on that lousy $10. it would have cost me, I will just act
>>>>>>> dumber than I look>>LOL>>, pointing to the Fuse holder, saying "There
>>>>>>> is an ABS 20A fuse designated there, and IN PLACE!" I can't believe
>>>>>>> that a BIG reputable (Have had them a number of years, GREAT RATES,
>>>>>>> even beating my AARP/Hartford rates I had), company would nickle and
>>>>>>> dime PPL for a lousy $10.00 just because they said that my VIN #
>>>>>>> indicated NO ABS. I told them, apparently mistakenly now, that it
>>>>>>> does, based on that FUSE.

>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all your inputs :-)

>>
>>>>>> They might not pay is the problem!

>>
>>>>> If I get into a bad wreck in that little car, there probably won't be
>>>>> enough left to see what's left/is under the hood>>LOL. One time coming
>>>>> back from the Calif Central coast, on U..S. 101, I was moving along at
>>>>> my usual 80MPH>>LOL> enjoying the view of the nearby hills, and
>>>>> THANKFULLY looked up in time to see that the traffic up ahead and come
>>>>> to a STOP. WHEW, if I had not looked up, another 30 secs, and I and my
>>>>> Wife would have been HISTORY, not to mention the poor SCHMUCK I would
>>>>> have run into. That area SUCKS (Mostly Morgan Hill). You have to keep
>>>>> those eyeballs ON THE ROAD :-)

>>
>>>> Actually, over the years, several of the local club members have gotten
>>>> into wrecks, up to really totaling the Miata and so forth. The car is
>>>> actually well built, and for it's size, quite rugged. Sheet metal and
>>>> designed collapsing areas protect the occupants and help minimize power
>>>> train damage. All that aside, you are correct, but if the adjuster
>>>> happens to look under the hood, there can be problems.

>>
>>> I called them today. Was prorated at just $9.00. Not worth worrying
>>> over. Maybe Mazda decided to leave ABS off these since they are so
>>> easy to handle/maneuver out of tight situations, even flying at 80
>>> MPH>>LOL

>>
>> There were model "variants" or different trim levels and markets.
>> For instance almost all automatics had ABS. Some of (but not all) of the
>> top trim levels with a manual transmission also had ABS.
>> My 99 LS (Leather) was arguably the version just below the anniversary
>> addition, and does not have ABS or a six speed manual. It seems to have
>> everything else, other than heated seats.

>
> Mine is a 2000, with less than 35,000 original miles, an MX-5, that
> seems to be pretty well trimmed out with nearly everything. But I have
> cloth seats. Never liked leather, too sticky/hot in summer, etc., nice
> audio system, AC, etc. The back seat is kind of tight though>>LOL
> LOL :-). Never understood why they didn't come stock with roll bars.
> I'd hate to get in a roll over. I've told my Wife, if we ever get in a
> roll over wreck, do like in an airplane and get her head has tight as
> she can between her knees. But that would be difficult heading to the
> beach with our Jack Russell using her lap as a cushion>>LOL..
>
> An Automatic??? Who in their right mind would want to own a little
> roadster like that, and not drive a stick :-)???


About 10% of the Miata's are automatics. Manuals require a clutch, and
electric clutches haven't made it to Miata's.
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Old April 27th 12, 04:02 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
XS11E[_1_]
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Ringo > wrote:

> An Automatic??? Who in their right mind would want to own a little
> roadster like that, and not drive a stick :-)???


Me. I wouldn't have ever considered a Miata with an automatic but when
I bought mine I knew I'd only be able to drive it for a limited time
because of the arthritis in my knees, hips, back, etc..

That time is very nearly up, driving the car is now a painful
experience and I notice my shifts are no longer smooth so it'll have to
go soon but if it were an automatic I could keep it..... maybe? Maybe
not, I don't think it would be as much fun with an automatic.


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  #20  
Old April 27th 12, 06:01 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Professor[_3_]
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On 4/26/2012 8:02 PM, XS11E wrote:
> > wrote:
>
>> An Automatic??? Who in their right mind would want to own a little
>> roadster like that, and not drive a stick :-)???

> Me. I wouldn't have ever considered a Miata with an automatic but when
> I bought mine I knew I'd only be able to drive it for a limited time
> because of the arthritis in my knees, hips, back, etc..
>
> That time is very nearly up, driving the car is now a painful
> experience and I notice my shifts are no longer smooth so it'll have to
> go soon but if it were an automatic I could keep it..... maybe? Maybe
> not, I don't think it would be as much fun with an automatic.
>
>

I can't speak for any other countries, but here in Canada the MX-5 is
available
with a " 6-speed Sport mode automatic transmission with overdrive and
paddle shifters".
Seems like a possible alternative.

Professor
 




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