GTP Lives!!!

Lol, no kidding.


"ert" > wrote in message ...
> yes i should have read it closer.
>
> sorry to offend you with another top-post full-quote post Uwe. if you are
> still on-duty as a usenet policeman, please be easy on me.
>
> "Uwe Schürkamp" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:15:20 GMT, Tony Rickard wrote:
> >
> > > The answer is in the original post...
> >
> > looks like another case where full-quoting and top-posting is
> > apparently easier than actually reading the article ;-)
> >
> > Cheers, uwe
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61
>
>

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:34:56 -0500, ert wrote:
> yes i should have read it closer.
>
> sorry to offend you with another top-post full-quote post Uwe. if you are
> still on-duty as a usenet policeman, please be easy on me.

Ok, will do. The medication has helped a bit, not always, but getting
there. 8-P

cheers, uwe


--
GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

LOLOLOL!

So, they take GTP off the web for important copyright issues, remove the
names and logos involved, and on the same date they rerelease it,
another, "independant" team publishes the complete car set with logos,
names, everything, so that everything is back in place within the day of
the release. That is just beautiful, just beautiful.

I would say that it is a big, and thundering "screw you". I don't know
to who, though, hehe.

Hopefully, this sets presedence, so that we can avoid stupid cases like
this again. Ultimatly, I am prepared for a copyright war, where
companies lay down millions in the process of denying someone to put
"Porsche" or "Jaguar" on a car in a friggin' game... Although, for the
time being, I *think* we are protected by the "not for commercial use"
clause.

---A---

Steve Smith wrote:
> Don't kiss me, I'm only the messenger.
>
> It gets better:
>
> ***********************
>
> 1991 IMSA Camel GT Carset for Redline GTP
> Date: 04/02/05 @ 7:07 pm
>
>
> Twenty-five carfiles will be included in the pack, representing each and
> every full-season GTP and GTP Camel Lights entry into the 1991 season, plus
> a selection of the one-off and two-off entries from the year's endurance
> races.
>
> #0 Dauer Racing BFGoodrich Porsche 962C driven by Al Unser, Jr., Al Unser,
> Bobby Unser and Robby Unser
> #00 Dauer Racing Havoline Porsche 962C driven by Michael, Mario and Jeff
> Andretti
> #1 NPTI Nissan NPT-91 driven by Bob Earl
> #2 Tom Walkinshaw Racing Bud Light Jaguar XJR-16 driven by Davy Jones
> #3 Tom Walkinshaw Racing Bud Light Jaguar XJR-10 driven by Raul Boesel
> #4 Tom Milner Racing Applebee's Spice SE89P/Chevrolet driven by Brian Bonner
> and Jeff Kline
> #5 Tom Milner Racing Applebee's Spice SE89P/Chevrolet driven by Jeff Purner
> and Tim McAdam
> #7 Joest Racing Porsche 962C driven by "John Winter" and Bernd Schneider
> #8 Essex Racing Miller Genuine Draft Kudzu DG-1/Buick Lights driven by
> Charles Morgan
> #9 Essex Racing RMI Kudzu DG-1/Buick Lights driven by Jim Pace
> #10 Hotchkis Racing Wynn's Spice SE90P/Pontiac driven by Chris Cord and Jim
> Adams
> #16 Dyson Racing Rain-X Porsche 962 driven by James Weaver
> #18 Carlos Bobeda Racing Spice SE88P/Buick Lights driven by Carlos Bobeda
> and Andy Evans
> #19 David Tennyson Racing Denon Spice SE90P/Ferrari Lights driven by David
> Tennyson
> #20 Carlos Bobeda Racing European Auto Sales Tiga GT287/Chevrolet Lights
> driven by Kaming Ko, Charles Monk, et al.
> #30 Momo/Gebhardt Racing Momo Gebhardt C91/Audi driven by Gianpiero Moretti
> and Derek Bell
> #48 Comptech Racing Acura Spice SE90P/Acura Lights driven by Parker
> Johnstone
> #54 HDF Motorsport University Motor Cars Spice SE88P/Buick Lights driven by
> Mike Sheehan and Jeff Davis
> #64 MTI Racing EDS/ICI Chevrolet Intrepid RM-1 driven by Wayne Taylor
> #65 MTI Racing EDS/ICI Chevrolet Intrepid RM-1 driven by Tommy Kendall
> #80 Bieri Racing Spice SE89P/Ferrari Lights driven by Martino Finotto and
> Ruggero Melgrati
> #83 NPTI Nissan NPT-91 driven by Geoff Brabham
> #84 NPTI Nissan NPT-91 driven by Chip Robinson
> #98 All American Racers Toyota Eagle HF-90 driven by Rocky Moran
> #99 All American Racers Toyota Eagle Mk III driven by Juan Manuel Fangio II
>
> Included in the package will be a 1991 IMSA calendar with race winners and a
> complete history of each car and driver combination represented - so you'll
> know why Davy Jones' big Cat just wasn't enough and where some guy named Tom
> Milner got his start...
>
> We anticipate releasing the carset on the same day that the updated mod is
> released - at this point all that is left are a few tweaks, a couple
> "tore-up privateer Spices" and the history files to complete.
>
> The IMSA GTP Carset Team:
> Ben Sidwell
> Chris Sampang
> Scott Przybylski
> Travis Mason-Bushman
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>Thanks for the update, Steve! That's great news!!
>>
>>For those of us who have been enjoying the "1st release" of GTP, would
>>you recommend that we download and install the new release when it is
>>available? I probably wouldn't do it for the physics changes alone (as
>>they seem small), but the new, improved sounds could be worth it. Will
>>there be a patch available, or will this be a whole new release package
>>to download/install. I'm on dial-up, so that's why it matters...
>>
>>Thanks again!
>>
>>-Pat
>>
>
>
>

I'm guessing that you tried to install the GTP mod in the same
directory as your N2003 installation. Otherwise, I don't see how the
GTP mod could have "dsiabled" N2003. I had no problems with the
install, once I figured out that you had to point the mod to the
correct directories (existing N2003 and new GTP directory).

-Pat

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'm guessing that you tried to install the GTP mod in the same
> directory as your N2003 installation. Otherwise, I don't see how the
> GTP mod could have "dsiabled" N2003. I had no problems with the
> install, once I figured out that you had to point the mod to the
> correct directories (existing N2003 and new GTP directory).
>
> -Pat
>


Yea. I tried that, but it still did not work. I never got it installed.
Tried serveral times. It kept telling me it could not find N2003. Then when
I tried to run N2003, it would kick me back to the desktop. The problem is
it tries to install under C: programs/papyus, which is not where papy
defaults. Papy games always install under C: papyrus. Even when I manually
tried to point it to C: papyrus/GTP it would not install. It also placed a
GTP folder in C:, but would not install there either. I'm not the only one
who had this problem. It's a crap install and needs to be fixed.


bluestringer

"bluestringer" > wrote in
:

>
> As can be seen here, there was a major bug in the install.
>
>
> http://www.redlinedevelopments.com/gtp/
>
>
> bluestringer
>
>

I am leaning towards disagreeing with this 'BUG' in the installer.
Granted they designed it very poorly. I too lost my sims because I didn't
understand where they wanted their files to go. And for some reason, the
installer DELETES the two video codecs rather than move them to a safe
folder. So it deletes the rend_ogl.dll and and rend_dxg.dll. So if you
can get ahold of those two files, you will get your broken Nr2k3 back.
Once I understood the wants of the installer, I got the gtp mod
installed easily. Runs great, feels great.
I "think" the unfortunate installer problem was used as a cover once the
lawyers stepped in. It will be interesting to see, not so much what extras
they add to the new version, but rather what they took out of v1.0 to
survive legal scrutineering.

btw...has anyone who has gotten gtp to run watched the ai cars BOUNCE at
Le Mans? lol!!

dave henrie

"I "think" the unfortunate installer problem was used as a cover once the
lawyers stepped in. It will be interesting to see, not so much what extras
they add to the new version, but rather what they took out of v1.0 to
survive legal scrutineering.

btw...has anyone who has gotten gtp to run watched the ai cars BOUNCE at
Le Mans? lol!!

dave henrie"

I am inclined to agree with you Dave. My install problem was simply that the
default second part of install where it identified the game as c:\Nascar
Racing 2003 neglected to add \Papyrus\Nascar Racing 2003. After I got that,
there was no problem installing & running.


"Dave Henrie" > wrote in message
. 97.136...
> "bluestringer" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> As can be seen here, there was a major bug in the install.
>>
>>
>> http://www.redlinedevelopments.com/gtp/
>>
>>
>> bluestringer
>>
>>
>
> I am leaning towards disagreeing with this 'BUG' in the installer.
> Granted they designed it very poorly. I too lost my sims because I didn't
> understand where they wanted their files to go. And for some reason, the
> installer DELETES the two video codecs rather than move them to a safe
> folder. So it deletes the rend_ogl.dll and and rend_dxg.dll. So if you
> can get ahold of those two files, you will get your broken Nr2k3 back.
> Once I understood the wants of the installer, I got the gtp mod
> installed easily. Runs great, feels great.
> I "think" the unfortunate installer problem was used as a cover once the
> lawyers stepped in. It will be interesting to see, not so much what
> extras
> they add to the new version, but rather what they took out of v1.0 to
> survive legal scrutineering.
>
> btw...has anyone who has gotten gtp to run watched the ai cars BOUNCE at
> Le Mans? lol!!
>
> dave henrie

Check out the AI at Sebring - they all DNF before lap 20! Hilarious.

Wag
"Dave Henrie" > wrote in message . 97.136...
"bluestringer" > wrote in
:

>
> As can be seen here, there was a major bug in the install.
>
>
> http://www.redlinedevelopments.com/gtp/
>
>
> bluestringer
>
>

I am leaning towards disagreeing with this 'BUG' in the installer.
Granted they designed it very poorly. I too lost my sims because I didn't
understand where they wanted their files to go. And for some reason, the
installer DELETES the two video codecs rather than move them to a safe
folder. So it deletes the rend_ogl.dll and and rend_dxg.dll. So if you
can get ahold of those two files, you will get your broken Nr2k3 back.
Once I understood the wants of the installer, I got the gtp mod
installed easily. Runs great, feels great.
I "think" the unfortunate installer problem was used as a cover once the
lawyers stepped in. It will be interesting to see, not so much what extras
they add to the new version, but rather what they took out of v1.0 to
survive legal scrutineering.

btw...has anyone who has gotten gtp to run watched the ai cars BOUNCE at
Le Mans? lol!!

dave henrie

Remember the AI cars bouncing in GPL, Dave? Didn't happen when the .lp (AI)
files were removed?

The AI cars bounce at *some* (but not all) 3rd-party tracks (i.e., not the
Team Redline tracks).

"Dave Henrie" > wrote in message
. 97.136...
> "bluestringer" > wrote in
> :
>
> >
> > As can be seen here, there was a major bug in the install.
> >
> >
> > http://www.redlinedevelopments.com/gtp/
> >
> >
> > bluestringer
> >
> >
>
> I am leaning towards disagreeing with this 'BUG' in the installer.
> Granted they designed it very poorly. I too lost my sims because I didn't
> understand where they wanted their files to go. And for some reason, the
> installer DELETES the two video codecs rather than move them to a safe
> folder. So it deletes the rend_ogl.dll and and rend_dxg.dll. So if you
> can get ahold of those two files, you will get your broken Nr2k3 back.
> Once I understood the wants of the installer, I got the gtp mod
> installed easily. Runs great, feels great.
> I "think" the unfortunate installer problem was used as a cover once the
> lawyers stepped in. It will be interesting to see, not so much what
extras
> they add to the new version, but rather what they took out of v1.0 to
> survive legal scrutineering.
>
> btw...has anyone who has gotten gtp to run watched the ai cars BOUNCE at
> Le Mans? lol!!
>
> dave henrie

In article >,
says...
> Remember the AI cars bouncing in GPL, Dave? Didn't happen when the .lp (AI)
> files were removed?
>
> The AI cars bounce at *some* (but not all) 3rd-party tracks (i.e., not the
> Team Redline tracks).
>
I'm sure I've seen 'em bouncing up and down on more than the odd
occasion at one or more of the default tracks that comes with the
installer. This is the original (now not available) mod I take it.

> "Dave Henrie" > wrote in message
> . 97.136...
> > "bluestringer" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > >
> >
<snip>
> >
> > btw...has anyone who has gotten gtp to run watched the ai cars BOUNCE at
> > Le Mans? lol!!
> >
> > dave henrie
>
>
>

--
Pete Ives
Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email