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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
on 16x7 or 16x8 rims.
The tires are 19 lbs., and I'm looking for rims that weigh less than 15 lbs--preferably less than 14. Why the S.Drives? They seem very well regarded as all-around performance tires, but are rated particularly well in wet traction... ....and I do live in Vancouver. What do you think? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
In article >,
Alan Baker > wrote: > Why the S.Drives? They seem very well regarded as all-around performance > tires, but are rated particularly well in wet traction... > > ...and I do live in Vancouver. > > What do you think? You're obviously not going to drive in snow, and the Toyo T1R is a better tire. Especially in the wet. -- Lanny Chambers St. Louis, MO '94C |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
In article >,
Lanny Chambers > wrote: > In article >, > Alan Baker > wrote: > > > Why the S.Drives? They seem very well regarded as all-around performance > > tires, but are rated particularly well in wet traction... > > > > ...and I do live in Vancouver. > > > > What do you think? > > You're obviously not going to drive in snow, and the Toyo T1R is a > better tire. Especially in the wet. Really? I've done some checking and a lot of people seem to think a lot about the S.Drive's wet weather performance. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
"Alan Baker" > wrote in message ... > Really? > > I've done some checking and a lot of people seem to think a lot about > the S.Drive's wet weather performance. > > -- > Alan Baker > Vancouver, British Columbia > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> Both are considered quite good but since you didn't ask about tires, I won't espouse the virtues of my favorites ;-). I will throw out for consideration, my wheels which, imo offer the best combination of looks / weight / price and, not necessarily in that order. I bought the Ultraleggera by OZ Racing. They are 16x7 and a few years ago they were $210 each. Actually I have had in my head that they were ~$180 each but since I don't 'trust' my head, I went and checked the receipt ;-). They are a little bit of a pain in the a_s to keep clean but after having the super light BBS Miata wheels for 5 years, these seemed a breeze in relative terms ;-). You can see them he http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...Si lver+Paint I believe these are 14.5lbs each. There are a few lighter / cheaper wheels out there but I definitely factored in looks. These are made in Italy and they are quality items. Good luck, Chris 99BBB |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
In article >,
"Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote: > "Alan Baker" > wrote in message > ... > > Really? > > > > I've done some checking and a lot of people seem to think a lot about > > the S.Drive's wet weather performance. > > > > -- > > Alan Baker > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > Both are considered quite good but since you didn't ask about tires, I won't > espouse the virtues of my favorites ;-). I will throw out for > consideration, my wheels which, imo offer the best combination of looks / > weight / price and, not necessarily in that order. I bought the Ultraleggera > by OZ Racing. They are 16x7 and a few years ago they were $210 each. > Actually I have had in my head that they were ~$180 each but since I don't > 'trust' my head, I went and checked the receipt ;-). They are a little bit > of a pain in the a_s to keep clean but after having the super light BBS > Miata wheels for 5 years, these seemed a breeze in relative terms ;-). You > can see them he > http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...loseUp&wheelMa > ke=O.Z.&wheelModel=Ultraleggera&wheelFinish=Bright +Silver+Paint > > I believe these are 14.5lbs each. There are a few lighter / cheaper wheels > out there but I definitely factored in looks. These are made in Italy and > they are quality items. > > Good luck, > Chris > 99BBB Yup. Like those. I like their Alleggerita even better and it's lighter by about a pound (and about $20 more, of course). See my other post for a few more. :-) -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
In article >,
Alan Baker > wrote: > I've done some checking and a lot of people seem to think a lot about > the S.Drive's wet weather performance. Lots of summer tires are very good in the wet. The T1R is a notch or two better than that, with significantly more grip under all conditions. In addition, it's very lightweight and has an amazingly-plush ride. However, its turn in is not very crisp, which bothers some folks. I've used up three sets of Toyos, and was always quite happy with them. Now I'm trying the Bridgestone RE-11, which is more of a track tire. It's completely different, and won't be everyone's cup of tea, but its grip and predictability are astonishing. Every tire is a set of compromises. If you list your priorities, we can offer better recommendations. How many miles per year do you drive? What temperature range? How hard do you drive? What's your budget? -- Lanny Chambers St. Louis, MO '94C |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
On Feb 20, 10:26*am, Lanny Chambers > wrote:
> In article >, > *Alan Baker > wrote: > > > I've done some checking and a lot of people seem to think a lot about > > the S.Drive's wet weather performance. > > Lots of summer tires are very good in the wet. The T1R is a notch or two > better than that, with significantly more grip under all conditions. In > addition, it's very lightweight and has an amazingly-plush ride. > However, its turn in is not very crisp, which bothers some folks. Maybe I should look into these. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "not very crisp" turn-in? My Miata is a 96 and it's been shod for a few years with the Dunlop D60-whatever tires that were highly recommended a few years ago. As they have got a few years and a few 1000 miles on them, they are terribly loud, to the point the car is unpleasant to ride in with the top up (top down the sun and wind and air distract me from the tire noise . I don't remember the OEM tires being that bad, but unfortunately I don't even remember what the OEM tires were since it was 15 years ago that I bought this car. . Part of the problem may be that my other car is an LS400 which is very quiet, so that may make the Mata seem worse. And I'm 15 years older than I was when I bought this Miata. At any rate I'd like something quieter but still want good grip in the twisty roads. I live in NC and have another car so summer tires are fine. Another "problem" is that I "only " drive my Miata about 7000 miles a year, so it will be a while before these Dunlops wear down enough that I can justify replacing them. But next time, because of my slow pace of rolling up the miles, durability will not be a factor in my selection. |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
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>, xyzzy > wrote: > Can you elaborate on what you mean > by "not very crisp" turn-in? Sure. When you turn the steering wheel sharply, there's a slight delay before the car responds, until the slack is taken out of the soft sidewall and the tread bites decisively. If you initiate the turn smoothly and progressively, you might not even notice, but it apparently makes some folks crazy. I adapted in 15-20 minutes, by turning in a fraction of a second earlier. I consider this a characteristic, not a problem. The pliant carcass also gives the T1R a wonderfully smooth, velvety ride, and an uncanny ability to ignore broken pavement or gravel on the road. It just keeps gripping without drama. I must warn you that any aggressive summer tread can hum on certain types of concrete pavement. My T1Rs were very quiet on asphalt. Plan on replacing the T1R after three years, regardless of tread remaining. They'll be too hard by then to work well in the wet. I had three sets of these tires. I'm currently on Bridgestone RE-11s, just because I wanted to try something different...which they are indeed. -- Lanny Chambers St. Louis, MO '94C |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
xyzzy wrote:
> On Feb 20, 10:26 am, Lanny Chambers > wrote: >> In article >, >> Alan Baker > wrote: >> >>> I've done some checking and a lot of people seem to think a lot >>> about the S.Drive's wet weather performance. >> >> Lots of summer tires are very good in the wet. The T1R is a notch or >> two better than that, with significantly more grip under all >> conditions. In addition, it's very lightweight and has an >> amazingly-plush ride. However, its turn in is not very crisp, which >> bothers some folks. > > Maybe I should look into these. Can you elaborate on what you mean > by "not very crisp" turn-in? > > My Miata is a 96 and it's been shod for a few years with the Dunlop > D60-whatever tires that were highly recommended a few years ago. As > they have got a few years and a few 1000 miles on them, they are > terribly loud, to the point the car is unpleasant to ride in with the > top up (top down the sun and wind and air distract me from the tire > noise . I don't remember the OEM tires being that bad, but > unfortunately I don't even remember what the OEM tires were since it > was 15 years ago that I bought this car. . > The OEM tire on my '96 was the Bridgestone SF325. It was dangerous to drive on in the rain. I swapped it for the Dunlop D60 and the dealer split the cost with me. The D60 was a decent all season tire, not a high performance summer tire. Later I switched to the T1R and loved them. I replaced the 17" wheels on my current Mazdaspeed with 16" Enkeis' to soften the ride and went back to all season tires because I wanted to drive on snow. I regret it and miss my T1R's. |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
On Feb 19, 11:13*pm, Alan Baker > wrote:
> on 16x7 or 16x8 rims. > > The tires are 19 lbs., and I'm looking for rims that weigh less than 15 > lbs--preferably less than 14. > > Why the S.Drives? They seem very well regarded as all-around performance > tires, but are rated particularly well in wet traction... > > ...and I do live in Vancouver. > > What do you think? > I think Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec is the current king of the wet traction hill http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.... Z1+Star+Spec I loved these when I had them on my protege. Wet traction is almost indistinguishable from dry traction. > -- > Alan Baker > Vancouver, British Columbia > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |
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