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Old February 24th 05, 06:09 AM
jim beam
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Default need obd0 help - 91 crx

anyone have experience with a code 8 condition?

my crx is flashing this and will not clear. it has a brand new
distributor & drives just fine. the check engine light is not on.

code 8 is supposed to be for tdc/crank sensor, but are there any other
conditions known to cause this? [for instance, code 16 is injectors,
but is usually caused by the main relay]

thanks!

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Old February 25th 05, 04:28 AM
jim beam
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TeGGer® wrote:
> jim beam > wrote in
> news:1109225376.49a3cf732da26c8c268b02f1b7dca5fc@t eranews:
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>>anyone have experience with a code 8 condition?
>>
>>my crx is flashing this and will not clear. it has a brand new
>>distributor & drives just fine. the check engine light is not on.

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> Any symptoms other than the ECU flashing the code?
>
> Try clearing the code and see if it comes back again (pull backup or
> backup/hazard fuse for 30 seconds).


ah! had been pulling the wrong fuse! problem gone. thanks tegger.

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>>code 8 is supposed to be for tdc/crank sensor, but are there any other
>>conditions known to cause this? [for instance, code 16 is injectors,
>>but is usually caused by the main relay]
>>

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> It is?


that's been my experience. 4 different civics.

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Old February 25th 05, 05:06 AM
jim beam
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TeGGer® wrote:
> jim beam > wrote in
> news:1109305734.feb44c08e700cb27805bd59970b4a147@t eranews:
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>>>>code 16 is injectors,
>>>>but is usually caused by the main relay]
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>>>It is?

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>>that's been my experience. 4 different civics.
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> Well, Main Relay term 3 feeds power to the injectors, but that feed is
> taken before the relays themselves. I guess it must be cracked solder that
> causes the ECU to see a no-voltage situation at the injector pins and thus
> set a code 16.
>
>

agreed. i'll bet 90% of all throttle body/injector sales have been as a
result of code 16 replacements. the helm manual is utterly useless in
diagnosis of this fault because it assumes the main relay's functioning
correctly and sends you in a flow-charted wild goose chase that costs
serious money. the only point at which it /does/ mention the main relay
in the flow chart, in the '89 helm at any rate, it assumes it's a
cabling fault, not a relay fault.

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Old February 26th 05, 12:56 AM
jim beam
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TeGGer® wrote:
> jim beam > wrote in
> news:1109307996.167df128e0fd699c71e100bdd60552d6@t eranews:
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>>TeGGer® wrote:

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>>>Well, Main Relay term 3 feeds power to the injectors, but that feed
>>>is taken before the relays themselves. I guess it must be cracked
>>>solder that causes the ECU to see a no-voltage situation at the
>>>injector pins and thus set a code 16.
>>>
>>>

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>>agreed. i'll bet 90% of all throttle body/injector sales have been as
>>a result of code 16 replacements. the helm manual is utterly useless
>>in diagnosis of this fault because it assumes the main relay's
>>functioning correctly and sends you in a flow-charted wild goose chase
>>that costs serious money. the only point at which it /does/ mention
>>the main relay in the flow chart, in the '89 helm at any rate, it
>>assumes it's a cabling fault, not a relay fault.
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>>

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> A question then: What would be the symptoms, if any? Stumbling? Stalling?
> Just the Check Engine light and nothing else?
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if the motor starts, there's no symptoms. if it doesn't, it lights the
check engine signal & stores code 16. i've never had a motor cut out or
stumble with main relay problems once the motor's running.

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Old February 26th 05, 02:10 AM
John Ings
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:56:12 -0800, jim beam >
wrote:

> i've never had a motor cut out or
>stumble with main relay problems once the motor's running.


I have! Sumbitch left me by the side of the road near Wapela
Saskatchewan. Just quit cold after coming all the way from Calgary.
Had I known then what I know now!



 




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