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  #11  
Old November 11th 06, 04:46 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Carl[_3_]
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Default Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?

No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career criminal
than it is to work for your living.

Carl

"Richard J Kinch" > wrote in message
. ..
> DougW writes:
>
>> Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
>> vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?

>
> If you win a judgment in court, you can take any assets of the
> judgment debtor you like. The problem is winning vs an insurer who
> specializes in insuring the uninsurable.
>
>> Did they get the perp for hit and run?

>
> Carlos Rodriguez? Lemme know if you know where he is. Still a fugitive.
>
> The FHP isn't going to start a manhunt over some property damage.
>
> This corner of Florida reminds me of NY/NJ lately. You're supposed to
> just
> buy your own insurance to cover criminal acts like this. The state is not
> going to enforce justice.



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  #12  
Old November 11th 06, 01:14 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Outatime[_1_]
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Default Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?

Carl wrote:

> No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
> haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career criminal
> than it is to work for your living.



Agreed! They don't even want to know about your property crime anymore,
and they won't even bother to take a report unless you need it for YOUR
insurance company.

Worse, they don't give a rip about 'minor' criminal matters anymore
either. A former mayor from a town near me never showed in court for
matters related to criminal corruption charges, and a warrant was issued
for his arrest. Cops publically admitted they weren't going to go pick
him up because he's not a dangerous felon. Nice attitude. Crime pays,
period.


  #13  
Old November 11th 06, 05:39 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Earle Horton[_7_]
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Default Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?

If the property crime is enough, they will care. An FBI agent told me that
they would be interested for "say $150,000" in a fraud case while your local
officials may get involved for somewhat less. Not for a wrecked TJ though,
not unless there is personal injury.

Earle

"Outatime" > wrote in message
...
> Carl wrote:
>
> > No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
> > haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career

criminal
> > than it is to work for your living.

>
>
> Agreed! They don't even want to know about your property crime anymore,
> and they won't even bother to take a report unless you need it for YOUR
> insurance company.
>
> Worse, they don't give a rip about 'minor' criminal matters anymore
> either. A former mayor from a town near me never showed in court for
> matters related to criminal corruption charges, and a warrant was issued
> for his arrest. Cops publically admitted they weren't going to go pick
> him up because he's not a dangerous felon. Nice attitude. Crime pays,
> period.
>
>




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  #14  
Old November 11th 06, 06:29 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Rich
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Default Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?

Here you go dems, and you want the illegals to stay, you asked for it you
got it........

"Richard J Kinch" > wrote in message
. ..
> Earle Horton writes:
>
>> Is this thing
>> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
>> the road sideways?

>
> I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.
>
> I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension arms,
> when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent axle),
> and
> about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The tire
> was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
> speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel the
> traction slipping.
>
> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> approximately
> straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's car
> on
> I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running when
> the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should be
> paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to pay
> for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this
> 10-year-old
> TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.



  #15  
Old November 11th 06, 07:11 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
James Drinkwater
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Default Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?

Yep, if it isn't straight it'll eventually start to trash seals, bearings
and affect brakes too. If you can get a good donor, that'll replace it up
right. Otherwise, I'd definitely take it to a pro who'll probably swap the
whole tube and ensure it's perfectly straight. I'd look for a donor and be
sure you've got a good diff. Probably shouldn't be difficult to find the
D35 after the rep they've earned on Bill's website
Drink


  #16  
Old November 11th 06, 11:28 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
RoyJ
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Default Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?

Rear axles are cheap, easier to just replace it. But if you insist on
trying to straighten it, about the only way is to use the camber
alignment tool used on solid axle trucks. It has a beam stronger than
the axle, a couple chunks of chain, and a hydraulic jack. Hold bean in
place, set chains at the ends, use the hydraulic jack to push in the
desired direction.

Richard J Kinch wrote:
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

  #17  
Old November 11th 06, 11:43 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Matt Macchiarolo
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Yep, that damn Teddy Kennedy and his amnesty plan that was co-sponsored by
three Republicans: Sen. John McCain, Reps. Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake

"Rich" > wrote in message
news:MDo5h.118$xD.1@trndny08...
> Here you go dems, and you want the illegals to stay, you asked for it you
> got it........
>
> "Richard J Kinch" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Earle Horton writes:
>>
>>> Is this thing
>>> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going
>>> down
>>> the road sideways?

>>
>> I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.
>>
>> I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension arms,
>> when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent axle),
>> and
>> about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The tire
>> was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
>> speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel the
>> traction slipping.
>>
>> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
>> approximately
>> straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's car
>> on
>> I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running when
>> the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should be
>> paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to
>> pay
>> for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this
>> 10-year-old
>> TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

>
>



  #18  
Old November 12th 06, 01:37 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Earle Horton[_8_]
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We voted out of power the guys that were supporting an unpopular war. We
are about to find out, if anyone in Washington is really listening. It's
been almost a week, and I haven't heard any plans for organized retreat,
demobilization, building new VA hospitals (which we will surely need!) or
any of the logical correlates of voting against a war. Bush is still
talking about winning the damn thing, last time I checked.

I was happy to see Rumsfeld resign, but it would have been better if it were
Cheney.

I expect that all we are really going to get out of this exercise, is a
prescription drug benefit for seniors that we really cannot afford, and lots
of new taxes.

Back to Jeeps!

Earle

<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
...
> And we just voted out of power the guys that would have stopped it.
>
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:43:40 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> > wrote:
>
> >Yep, that damn Teddy Kennedy and his amnesty plan that was co-sponsored

by
> >three Republicans: Sen. John McCain, Reps. Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake
> >
> >"Rich" > wrote in message
> >news:MDo5h.118$xD.1@trndny08...
> >> Here you go dems, and you want the illegals to stay, you asked for it

you
> >> got it........
> >>
> >> "Richard J Kinch" > wrote in message
> >> . ..
> >>> Earle Horton writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Is this thing
> >>>> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going
> >>>> down
> >>>> the road sideways?
> >>>
> >>> I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.
> >>>
> >>> I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension

arms,
> >>> when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent

axle),
> >>> and
> >>> about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The

tire
> >>> was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
> >>> speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel

the
> >>> traction slipping.
> >>>
> >>> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> >>> approximately
> >>> straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's

car
> >>> on
> >>> I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running

when
> >>> the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should

be
> >>> paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to
> >>> pay
> >>> for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this
> >>> 10-year-old
> >>> TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.
> >>
> >>

> >

>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com




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  #19  
Old November 12th 06, 03:31 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
billy ray
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Default Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?

Demoncrats have had several years to formulate a plan and the only one they
have mentioned on the floor of congress was a former Marine Officer who said
the US should run away like little girls.....

That new congresslady from mid Ohio, who was just re-elected, called him a
coward to his face and said Marines from Ohio don't run away.



"Earle Horton" > wrote in message
.. .
> We voted out of power the guys that were supporting an unpopular war. We
> are about to find out, if anyone in Washington is really listening. It's
> been almost a week, and I haven't heard any plans for organized retreat,
> demobilization, building new VA hospitals (which we will surely need!) or
> any of the logical correlates of voting against a war. Bush is still
> talking about winning the damn thing, last time I checked.
>
> I was happy to see Rumsfeld resign, but it would have been better if it
> were
> Cheney.
>
> I expect that all we are really going to get out of this exercise, is a
> prescription drug benefit for seniors that we really cannot afford, and
> lots
> of new taxes.
>
> Back to Jeeps!
>
> Earle
>
> <Matt Osborn> wrote in message
> ...
>> And we just voted out of power the guys that would have stopped it.
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:43:40 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Yep, that damn Teddy Kennedy and his amnesty plan that was co-sponsored

> by
>> >three Republicans: Sen. John McCain, Reps. Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake
>> >
>> >"Rich" > wrote in message
>> >news:MDo5h.118$xD.1@trndny08...
>> >> Here you go dems, and you want the illegals to stay, you asked for it

> you
>> >> got it........
>> >>
>> >> "Richard J Kinch" > wrote in message
>> >> . ..
>> >>> Earle Horton writes:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Is this thing
>> >>>> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going
>> >>>> down
>> >>>> the road sideways?
>> >>>
>> >>> I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.
>> >>>
>> >>> I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension

> arms,
>> >>> when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent

> axle),
>> >>> and
>> >>> about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The

> tire
>> >>> was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
>> >>> speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel

> the
>> >>> traction slipping.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
>> >>> approximately
>> >>> straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's

> car
>> >>> on
>> >>> I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running

> when
>> >>> the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should

> be
>> >>> paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them
>> >>> to
>> >>> pay
>> >>> for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this
>> >>> 10-year-old
>> >>> TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >

>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com

>
>
>
> --
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>



  #20  
Old November 12th 06, 04:46 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Earle Horton[_8_]
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I wouldn't put it that way, but it sure sounds like a good idea to me. I
think you have to look at this as a vote against the Republicans, and pretty
much everyone is taking it like that, not as a vote in favor of the
Democrats' warped social policies. Specifically, a vote against continuing
to have United States citizens dying every day in Iraq.

How about we get the hell out of Iraq, and tell the world that we have
killed enough Arabs and Muslims, so that we are more or less even after 911?
Then let them put the country back together themselves. I'll bet precious
few of those Al-Qaida jerks can operate a bull dozer or run a hospital. All
they seem to be good for is hot air and bullets.

As far as "Marines from Ohio don't run away", well that's pretty easy to say
when you and I are paying the tab for this fiasco. If the Marines from Ohio
were paying their own expenses, operations would be folding up even as we
speak.

Earle

"As long as war is regarded as wicked, it will always have its fascination.
When it is looked upon as vulgar, it will cease to be popular." Oscar Wilde

"You know, education-...,if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do
your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you can do well. If
you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." John Kerry

"billy ray" > wrote in message
...
> Demoncrats have had several years to formulate a plan and the only one

they
> have mentioned on the floor of congress was a former Marine Officer who

said
> the US should run away like little girls.....
>
> That new congresslady from mid Ohio, who was just re-elected, called him a
> coward to his face and said Marines from Ohio don't run away.
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > We voted out of power the guys that were supporting an unpopular war.

We
> > are about to find out, if anyone in Washington is really listening.

It's
> > been almost a week, and I haven't heard any plans for organized retreat,
> > demobilization, building new VA hospitals (which we will surely need!)

or
> > any of the logical correlates of voting against a war. Bush is still
> > talking about winning the damn thing, last time I checked.
> >
> > I was happy to see Rumsfeld resign, but it would have been better if it
> > were
> > Cheney.
> >
> > I expect that all we are really going to get out of this exercise, is a
> > prescription drug benefit for seniors that we really cannot afford, and
> > lots
> > of new taxes.
> >
> > Back to Jeeps!
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <Matt Osborn> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> And we just voted out of power the guys that would have stopped it.
> >>
> >> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:43:40 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yep, that damn Teddy Kennedy and his amnesty plan that was

co-sponsored
> > by
> >> >three Republicans: Sen. John McCain, Reps. Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake
> >> >
> >> >"Rich" > wrote in message
> >> >news:MDo5h.118$xD.1@trndny08...
> >> >> Here you go dems, and you want the illegals to stay, you asked for

it
> > you
> >> >> got it........
> >> >>
> >> >> "Richard J Kinch" > wrote in message
> >> >> . ..
> >> >>> Earle Horton writes:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Is this thing
> >> >>>> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously

going
> >> >>>> down
> >> >>>> the road sideways?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension

> > arms,
> >> >>> when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent

> > axle),
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube).

The
> > tire
> >> >>> was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at

walking
> >> >>> speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could

feel
> > the
> >> >>> traction slipping.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> >> >>> approximately
> >> >>> straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my

son's
> > car
> >> >>> on
> >> >>> I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running

> > when
> >> >>> the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that

should
> > be
> >> >>> paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> pay
> >> >>> for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this
> >> >>> 10-year-old
> >> >>> TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com

> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >

>
>





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