Yet another oblivious SUV driver

This one was a brand new SUV - not even temporary tags yet, just the
dealership ad in the license plate (I suppose maybe I just couldn't see
the temp tags through the tinted glass).

So, I'm pulling into my garage at the condos where I live and idiot is
pulling out, but apparently sees me as I approach, so he stops backing out.

Apparently, he assumed I was going to keep going past him because after
a brief pause, he continued backing. But, I had to slow down to pull
into my garage. I pulled in much more quickly than I normally would
have because I believed he would have hit me if I didn't.

Why is it that there are so many oblivious drivers out there?

It doesn't surprise me that the most dangerous are behind the wheels of
SUVs either. The poor ******* either wasn't looking behind him or his
mirrors were so poorly adjusted that he couldn't see me.


I've long been an advocate of stricter requirements for obtaining a
driver's license, and the plethora of oblivious SUV drivers only
reinforces this opinion.

If we can't get stricter requirements for all drivers, let's at least
get them for drivers of vehicles which are twice as large and twice as
high as more conventional cars.

There is one good SUV driver. (It's so long ago I forget where it
happened.)
I was stuck in traffic close to an open parking place on the opposite
side. A SUV going the other way, with no traffic behind, drove past,
put it into reverse, backed it into the space and drove forward a bit,
well parked.
This was done in about ten seconds and when the wasparked there was
about 2 - 3 feet of space both ahead and behind, and as far as I could
tell, it was a reasonable distance from the curb.

I dont know wrote:
> This one was a brand new SUV - not even temporary tags yet, just the
> dealership ad in the license plate (I suppose maybe I just couldn't see
> the temp tags through the tinted glass).
>
> So, I'm pulling into my garage at the condos where I live and idiot is
> pulling out, but apparently sees me as I approach, so he stops backing out.
>
> Apparently, he assumed I was going to keep going past him because after
> a brief pause, he continued backing. But, I had to slow down to pull
> into my garage. I pulled in much more quickly than I normally would
> have because I believed he would have hit me if I didn't.
>
> Why is it that there are so many oblivious drivers out there?
>
> It doesn't surprise me that the most dangerous are behind the wheels of
> SUVs either. The poor ******* either wasn't looking behind him or his
> mirrors were so poorly adjusted that he couldn't see me.
>
>
> I've long been an advocate of stricter requirements for obtaining a
> driver's license, and the plethora of oblivious SUV drivers only
> reinforces this opinion.
>
> If we can't get stricter requirements for all drivers, let's at least
> get them for drivers of vehicles which are twice as large and twice as
> high as more conventional cars.

Even in the Midwest I run across bad SUV drivers and good ones.
However, I see worse stunts by pickup drivers: passing on hills, 15+
over the SL, whatnot. The vehicle is not the problem; the driver is.
We could see better driving skills if a cop/examiner would go
undercover as a passenger and give random driving tests, in much the
same way as the military and some businesses give out random drug
tests. That should weed out a lot of rotten drivers. One driving test
at age 16 to cover a driver for life is simply not enough to keep the
traffic safe. Heck, my driving test came under Federal 55 and an
incomplete Interstate system (early '80). Driving rules change with
the political winds. Now that MO has a 6-year license effective age 21
to 69, a road test with each renewal or every other one should suffice.

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:47:19 -0700, I dont know >
wrote:

>This one was a brand new SUV - not even temporary tags yet, just the
>dealership ad in the license plate (I suppose maybe I just couldn't see
>the temp tags through the tinted glass).
>
>So, I'm pulling into my garage at the condos where I live and idiot is
>pulling out, but apparently sees me as I approach, so he stops backing out.
>
>Apparently, he assumed I was going to keep going past him because after
>a brief pause, he continued backing. But, I had to slow down to pull
>into my garage. I pulled in much more quickly than I normally would
>have because I believed he would have hit me if I didn't.
>
>Why is it that there are so many oblivious drivers out there?
>
>It doesn't surprise me that the most dangerous are behind the wheels of
>SUVs either. The poor ******* either wasn't looking behind him or his
>mirrors were so poorly adjusted that he couldn't see me.
>
>
>I've long been an advocate of stricter requirements for obtaining a
>driver's license, and the plethora of oblivious SUV drivers only
>reinforces this opinion.
>
>If we can't get stricter requirements for all drivers, let's at least
>get them for drivers of vehicles which are twice as large and twice as
>high as more conventional cars.

I solved the SUV problem years ago. The solution is to base the
penalties for reckless driving on the listed weight of the vehicle.
The heavier their vehilcle, the bigger threat their reckless driving
is to others and so they should pay more. Such a policy would
discourage people from owning land tanks and if they did own one, they
would have to drive carefully.

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:47:19 -0700, I dont know >
> wrote:
>
> >This one was a brand new SUV - not even temporary tags yet, just the
> >dealership ad in the license plate (I suppose maybe I just couldn't see
> >the temp tags through the tinted glass).
> >
> >So, I'm pulling into my garage at the condos where I live and idiot is
> >pulling out, but apparently sees me as I approach, so he stops backing out.
> >
> >Apparently, he assumed I was going to keep going past him because after
> >a brief pause, he continued backing. But, I had to slow down to pull
> >into my garage. I pulled in much more quickly than I normally would
> >have because I believed he would have hit me if I didn't.
> >
> >Why is it that there are so many oblivious drivers out there?
> >
> >It doesn't surprise me that the most dangerous are behind the wheels of
> >SUVs either. The poor ******* either wasn't looking behind him or his
> >mirrors were so poorly adjusted that he couldn't see me.
> >
> >
> >I've long been an advocate of stricter requirements for obtaining a
> >driver's license, and the plethora of oblivious SUV drivers only
> >reinforces this opinion.
> >
> >If we can't get stricter requirements for all drivers, let's at least
> >get them for drivers of vehicles which are twice as large and twice as
> >high as more conventional cars.
>
> I solved the SUV problem years ago. The solution is to base the
> penalties for reckless driving on the listed weight of the vehicle.
> The heavier their vehilcle, the bigger threat their reckless driving
> is to others and so they should pay more. Such a policy would
> discourage people from owning land tanks and if they did own one, they
> would have to drive carefully.

Not a bad solution, but I can think of one even better: have each SUV
dealer hire a driving examiner to road test each potential buyer in a
similar manner to the CDL requirement for using larger trucks. Since
SUVs handle much differently from conventional cars, the skill
requirements are different. No cornering at higher than posted speed
unless you expect to roll the vehicle.

I figure that if someone drives recklessly in the SUV, the same driver
is likely to be just as reckless in a beer-can-size rice burner and
should not be on the road anyway.

MLOM wrote:
> I dont know wrote:

>
> Even in the Midwest I run across bad SUV drivers and good ones.
> However, I see worse stunts by pickup drivers: passing on hills, 15+
> over the SL, whatnot. The vehicle is not the problem; the driver is.


I agree completely, however the least competent drivers often choose to
drive SUVs.

As far as pickup drivers go, there are 2 classes of pickups - those that
are used as SUVs and those that are actual utility vehicles.


> We could see better driving skills if a cop/examiner would go
> undercover as a passenger and give random driving tests, in much the
> same way as the military and some businesses give out random drug
> tests. That should weed out a lot of rotten drivers. One driving test
> at age 16 to cover a driver for life is simply not enough to keep the
> traffic safe. Heck, my driving test came under Federal 55 and an
> incomplete Interstate system (early '80). Driving rules change with
> the political winds. Now that MO has a 6-year license effective age 21
> to 69, a road test with each renewal or every other one should suffice.
>

>>I solved the SUV problem years ago. The solution is to base the
>>penalties for reckless driving on the listed weight of the vehicle.
>>The heavier their vehilcle, the bigger threat their reckless driving
>>is to others and so they should pay more. Such a policy would
>>discourage people from owning land tanks and if they did own one, they
>>would have to drive carefully.
>
>
> Not a bad solution,

Actually, it's a VERY bad solution. As you just said in another post,
it's the driver, not the vehicle.

MLOM wrote:



>
> Not a bad solution, but I can think of one even better: have each SUV
> dealer hire a driving examiner to road test each potential buyer in a
> similar manner to the CDL requirement for using larger trucks. Since
> SUVs handle much differently from conventional cars, the skill
> requirements are different. No cornering at higher than posted speed
> unless you expect to roll the vehicle.

NO NO NO. You're making the common blunder of thinking education is the
answer. Punishment is the answer. SUV owners know how to drive safely.
They drive crazy cause they enjoy terrorizing other drivers and think
their bulk will protect them.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> MLOM wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>Not a bad solution, but I can think of one even better: have each SUV
>>dealer hire a driving examiner to road test each potential buyer in a
>>similar manner to the CDL requirement for using larger trucks. Since
>>SUVs handle much differently from conventional cars, the skill
>>requirements are different. No cornering at higher than posted speed
>>unless you expect to roll the vehicle.
>
>
> NO NO NO. You're making the common blunder of thinking education is the
> answer. Punishment is the answer. SUV owners know how to drive safely.
> They drive crazy cause they enjoy terrorizing other drivers and think
> their bulk will protect them.
>


You're a pathetic exucse for someone trying to be funny

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> MLOM wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> > Not a bad solution, but I can think of one even better: have each SUV
> > dealer hire a driving examiner to road test each potential buyer in a
> > similar manner to the CDL requirement for using larger trucks. Since
> > SUVs handle much differently from conventional cars, the skill
> > requirements are different. No cornering at higher than posted speed
> > unless you expect to roll the vehicle.
>
> NO NO NO. You're making the common blunder of thinking education is the
> answer. Punishment is the answer. SUV owners know how to drive safely.
> They drive crazy cause they enjoy terrorizing other drivers and think
> their bulk will protect them.

I see the same terroristic driving habits with the drivers of all
vehicles from sub-compacts to 18-wheelers, and most do their best
driving during the initial road test. Age is no factor at all. Do you
honestly think the People's Republic of America has enough prison space
to handle your recommendation? Our gov't deficit wouldn't handle the
funds required for that. also, if we incarcerate every driver who
violated a speed or other traffic law, how would the towns collect
fines?