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Old December 3rd 13, 06:32 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
harry k
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 4:52:19 AM UTC-8, Dave Head wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:22:08 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr."

> wrote:
> >I state that slower traffic should keep one lane to the left of the right
> >lane on any road with three or more lanes in one direction.
> >The reasons are because the rightmost lane often becomes exit only or there
> >is a lane reduction closing the right lane anyway. Then slower traffic has
> >to merge into faster traffic anyway.


> >Discuss.


> This is the "correct", although maybe not strictly legal to drive
> these roads.
> Keeping totally to the right, this stuff happens:
> 1) Everyone else that merges into traffic when entering such a roadway
> does so at 45 mph. You either have to brake, or move left anyway.
>
> 2) If you want to move left, there is always some moron that has
> caught up to you and slowed down so as to occupy your blind spot
> forever. Eventually you are going to miss one of them and then not
> "miss" them, and you are all going to end up into a frappin' light
> pole...


> The right lane is for merging onto and exiting from a 3-or-more lanes
> wide expressway, no matter what the (antiquated) laws say. Driving
> is about survival, not obeying laws.


AS usual there is never just one answer. The 'one lane left' approach is good, in fact just about mandatory, when in urban areas. It is not needed, and decreases carrying capacity, where exits/entrances are miles apart in open country.

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  #12  
Old December 4th 13, 01:42 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

Daniel W. Rouse Jr. wrote "I state that slower traffic should keep one lane to the left of the right
lane on any road with three or more lanes in one direction. "

Not around my parts(CT). Got too many folks passing on the right already(on the two-lane Merritt and the three lane I95).
  #13  
Old December 4th 13, 06:06 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

On 2013-12-03, Dave Head > wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:22:08 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr."
> wrote:
>
>>I state that slower traffic should keep one lane to the left of the right
>>lane on any road with three or more lanes in one direction.
>>
>>The reasons are because the rightmost lane often becomes exit only or there
>>is a lane reduction closing the right lane anyway. Then slower traffic has
>>to merge into faster traffic anyway.
>>
>>Discuss.

>
> This is the "correct", although maybe not strictly legal to drive
> these roads.


it's not. It's typical american patch to treat symptoms of other
problems and thus creating more problems.

> Keeping totally to the right, this stuff happens:
>
> 1) Everyone else that merges into traffic when entering such a roadway
> does so at 45 mph. You either have to brake, or move left anyway.


They shouldn't be doing that. Fix this problem instead of creating
another.

> 2) If you want to move left, there is always some moron that has
> caught up to you and slowed down so as to occupy your blind spot
> forever. Eventually you are going to miss one of them and then not
> "miss" them, and you are all going to end up into a frappin' light
> pole...


Again, another problem that should be dealt with instead of patched
over.

> The right lane is for merging onto and exiting from a 3-or-more lanes
> wide expressway, no matter what the (antiquated) laws say.


No it's not for "merging and exiting". It's for driving.

> Driving is about survival, not obeying laws.


In north america it's about laziness. One lazy driver after the other
creating an unworkable situation as they all try to pass the required
effort of the task on to others. The merger expects others to avoid so
he passes the work on to the drivers in the right lane. The drivers in
the right lane don't want to do it so they cruise one lane further left
passing on the effort to faster traffic.... just passing the buck,
kicking the can... laziness. And people wonder why there is so much
traffic congestion.




  #14  
Old December 4th 13, 06:10 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

On 2013-12-03, Harry K > wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 4:52:19 AM UTC-8, Dave Head wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:22:08 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr."

> > wrote:
>> >I state that slower traffic should keep one lane to the left of the right
>> >lane on any road with three or more lanes in one direction.
>> >The reasons are because the rightmost lane often becomes exit only or there
>> >is a lane reduction closing the right lane anyway. Then slower traffic has
>> >to merge into faster traffic anyway.

>
>> >Discuss.

>
>> This is the "correct", although maybe not strictly legal to drive
>> these roads.
>> Keeping totally to the right, this stuff happens:
>> 1) Everyone else that merges into traffic when entering such a roadway
>> does so at 45 mph. You either have to brake, or move left anyway.
>>
>> 2) If you want to move left, there is always some moron that has
>> caught up to you and slowed down so as to occupy your blind spot
>> forever. Eventually you are going to miss one of them and then not
>> "miss" them, and you are all going to end up into a frappin' light
>> pole...

>
>> The right lane is for merging onto and exiting from a 3-or-more lanes
>> wide expressway, no matter what the (antiquated) laws say. Driving
>> is about survival, not obeying laws.

>
> AS usual there is never just one answer. The 'one lane left'

approach is good, in fact just about mandatory, when in urban areas.
It is not needed, and decreases carrying capacity, where
exits/entrances are miles apart in open country.

This lazy practice usually leaves the right lane open in urban areas
resulting in the right lane becoming the effective passing lane. Now
passing traffic and merge impaired drivers have conflicts. Typical
american symptom treatment resulting in other problems.







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Old December 5th 13, 07:27 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
harry k
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:10:49 AM UTC-8, Brent wrote:
> On 2013-12-03, Harry K wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 4:52:19 AM UTC-8, Dave Head wrote:

>
> >> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:22:08 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr."

>
> > > wrote:

>
> >> >I state that slower traffic should keep one lane to the left of the right

>
> >> >lane on any road with three or more lanes in one direction.

>
> >> >The reasons are because the rightmost lane often becomes exit only or there

>
> >> >is a lane reduction closing the right lane anyway. Then slower traffic has

>
> >> >to merge into faster traffic anyway.

>
> >

>
> >> >Discuss.

>
> >

>
> >> This is the "correct", although maybe not strictly legal to drive

>
> >> these roads.

>
> >> Keeping totally to the right, this stuff happens:

>
> >> 1) Everyone else that merges into traffic when entering such a roadway

>
> >> does so at 45 mph. You either have to brake, or move left anyway.

>
> >>

>
> >> 2) If you want to move left, there is always some moron that has

>
> >> caught up to you and slowed down so as to occupy your blind spot

>
> >> forever. Eventually you are going to miss one of them and then not

>
> >> "miss" them, and you are all going to end up into a frappin' light

>
> >> pole...

>
> >

>
> >> The right lane is for merging onto and exiting from a 3-or-more lanes

>
> >> wide expressway, no matter what the (antiquated) laws say. Driving

>
> >> is about survival, not obeying laws.

>
> >

>
> > AS usual there is never just one answer. The 'one lane left'

>
> approach is good, in fact just about mandatory, when in urban areas.
>
> It is not needed, and decreases carrying capacity, where
>
> exits/entrances are miles apart in open country.
>
>
>
> This lazy practice usually leaves the right lane open in urban areas
>
> resulting in the right lane becoming the effective passing lane. Now
>
> passing traffic and merge impaired drivers have conflicts. Typical
>
> american symptom treatment resulting in other problems.


Try driving I90 through Spokane, Wa or I5 in the Seattle, wa metro area in the right lane and you'll change your mind.

Harry K
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Old December 5th 13, 10:23 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

On 2013-12-05, Harry K > wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:10:49 AM UTC-8, Brent wrote:
>> On 2013-12-03, Harry K wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 4:52:19 AM UTC-8, Dave Head wrote:

>>
>> >> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:22:08 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr."

>>
>> > > wrote:

>>
>> >> >I state that slower traffic should keep one lane to the left of the right

>>
>> >> >lane on any road with three or more lanes in one direction.

>>
>> >> >The reasons are because the rightmost lane often becomes exit only or there

>>
>> >> >is a lane reduction closing the right lane anyway. Then slower traffic has

>>
>> >> >to merge into faster traffic anyway.

>>
>> >

>>
>> >> >Discuss.

>>
>> >

>>
>> >> This is the "correct", although maybe not strictly legal to drive

>>
>> >> these roads.

>>
>> >> Keeping totally to the right, this stuff happens:

>>
>> >> 1) Everyone else that merges into traffic when entering such a roadway

>>
>> >> does so at 45 mph. You either have to brake, or move left anyway.

>>
>> >>

>>
>> >> 2) If you want to move left, there is always some moron that has

>>
>> >> caught up to you and slowed down so as to occupy your blind spot

>>
>> >> forever. Eventually you are going to miss one of them and then not

>>
>> >> "miss" them, and you are all going to end up into a frappin' light

>>
>> >> pole...

>>
>> >

>>
>> >> The right lane is for merging onto and exiting from a 3-or-more lanes

>>
>> >> wide expressway, no matter what the (antiquated) laws say. Driving

>>
>> >> is about survival, not obeying laws.

>>
>> >

>>
>> > AS usual there is never just one answer. The 'one lane left'

>>
>> approach is good, in fact just about mandatory, when in urban areas.
>>
>> It is not needed, and decreases carrying capacity, where
>>
>> exits/entrances are miles apart in open country.
>>
>>
>>
>> This lazy practice usually leaves the right lane open in urban areas
>>
>> resulting in the right lane becoming the effective passing lane. Now
>>
>> passing traffic and merge impaired drivers have conflicts. Typical
>>
>> american symptom treatment resulting in other problems.

>
> Try driving I90 through Spokane, Wa or I5 in the Seattle, wa metro area in the right lane and you'll change your mind.


You act as if I don't live in one the biggest metro areas in the nation.





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Old December 6th 13, 03:32 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Harry K Wrote "Try driving I90 through Spokane, Wa or I5 in the Seattle, wa metro area in the right lane and you'll change your mind. "

I95 in Southern CT will make those Washington highways look bucolic by comparison!

I drive in the right lane lane of three on I95 and most drivers know what to do - there's two lanes to my left for them to do it in.
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Old December 6th 13, 07:50 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC), Brent
> wrote:

>On 2013-12-03, Dave Head > wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:22:08 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr."
> wrote:
>>
>>>I state that slower traffic should keep one lane to the left of the right
>>>lane on any road with three or more lanes in one direction.
>>>
>>>The reasons are because the rightmost lane often becomes exit only or there
>>>is a lane reduction closing the right lane anyway. Then slower traffic has
>>>to merge into faster traffic anyway.
>>>
>>>Discuss.

>>
>> This is the "correct", although maybe not strictly legal to drive
>> these roads.

>
>it's not. It's typical american patch to treat symptoms of other
>problems and thus creating more problems.
>
>> Keeping totally to the right, this stuff happens:
>>
>> 1) Everyone else that merges into traffic when entering such a roadway
>> does so at 45 mph. You either have to brake, or move left anyway.

>
>They shouldn't be doing that. Fix this problem instead of creating
>another.


Yep. But the only thing I have the power to do is to not get killed
by it. The way to do that is to not be there - IOW, be a lane
over...
>
>> 2) If you want to move left, there is always some moron that has
>> caught up to you and slowed down so as to occupy your blind spot
>> forever. Eventually you are going to miss one of them and then not
>> "miss" them, and you are all going to end up into a frappin' light
>> pole...

>
>Again, another problem that should be dealt with instead of patched
>over.


I deal with it in the only manner I have power to.

>> The right lane is for merging onto and exiting from a 3-or-more lanes
>> wide expressway, no matter what the (antiquated) laws say.

>
>No it's not for "merging and exiting". It's for driving.


Nope, not any more...

>
>> Driving is about survival, not obeying laws.

>
>In north america it's about laziness.


You go ahead and moralize all the way to the horizon, and I'll drive
to survive.

>One lazy driver after the other
>creating an unworkable situation as they all try to pass the required
>effort of the task on to others. The merger expects others to avoid so
>he passes the work on to the drivers in the right lane. The drivers in
>the right lane don't want to do it so they cruise one lane further left
>passing on the effort to faster traffic.... just passing the buck,
>kicking the can... laziness. And people wonder why there is so much
>traffic congestion.
>
>
>

  #19  
Old December 6th 13, 04:02 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

On 2013-12-06, Dave Head > wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC), Brent
> wrote:
>
>>On 2013-12-03, Dave Head > wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:22:08 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr."
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I state that slower traffic should keep one lane to the left of the right
>>>>lane on any road with three or more lanes in one direction.
>>>>
>>>>The reasons are because the rightmost lane often becomes exit only or there
>>>>is a lane reduction closing the right lane anyway. Then slower traffic has
>>>>to merge into faster traffic anyway.
>>>>
>>>>Discuss.
>>>
>>> This is the "correct", although maybe not strictly legal to drive
>>> these roads.

>>
>>it's not. It's typical american patch to treat symptoms of other
>>problems and thus creating more problems.
>>
>>> Keeping totally to the right, this stuff happens:
>>>
>>> 1) Everyone else that merges into traffic when entering such a roadway
>>> does so at 45 mph. You either have to brake, or move left anyway.

>>
>>They shouldn't be doing that. Fix this problem instead of creating
>>another.


> Yep. But the only thing I have the power to do is to not get killed
> by it. The way to do that is to not be there - IOW, be a lane
> over...


That doesn't make it the correct way to drive, in quotes or not.
Furthermore there are other ways to deal with it. They are lazy drivers,
they only push as far as others will cater to them more times than not.

>>> 2) If you want to move left, there is always some moron that has
>>> caught up to you and slowed down so as to occupy your blind spot
>>> forever. Eventually you are going to miss one of them and then not
>>> "miss" them, and you are all going to end up into a frappin' light
>>> pole...


>>Again, another problem that should be dealt with instead of patched
>>over.


> I deal with it in the only manner I have power to.


You could set your mirrors properly.

>>> The right lane is for merging onto and exiting from a 3-or-more lanes
>>> wide expressway, no matter what the (antiquated) laws say.


>>No it's not for "merging and exiting". It's for driving.


> Nope, not any more...


I drive in the right lane much of the time.

>>> Driving is about survival, not obeying laws.


>>In north america it's about laziness.


> You go ahead and moralize all the way to the horizon, and I'll drive
> to survive.


You're the one moralizing your own form of lazy driving.

>>One lazy driver after the other
>>creating an unworkable situation as they all try to pass the required
>>effort of the task on to others. The merger expects others to avoid so
>>he passes the work on to the drivers in the right lane. The drivers in
>>the right lane don't want to do it so they cruise one lane further left
>>passing on the effort to faster traffic.... just passing the buck,
>>kicking the can... laziness. And people wonder why there is so much
>>traffic congestion.

  #20  
Old December 8th 13, 12:33 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Arif Khokar
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Default Slower traffic: keep one lane left of the right lane

On 12/06/2013 01:50 AM, Dave Head wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC), Brent
> > wrote:
>>> Keeping totally to the right, this stuff happens:
>>>
>>> 1) Everyone else that merges into traffic when entering such a roadway
>>> does so at 45 mph. You either have to brake, or move left anyway.

>>
>> They shouldn't be doing that. Fix this problem instead of creating
>> another.

>
> Yep. But the only thing I have the power to do is to not get killed
> by it. The way to do that is to not be there - IOW, be a lane
> over...


You're not going to get killed by it. IME, impaired mergers will not
ram your vehicle when trying to merge. They usually either fall in
behind you or actually accelerate and merge properly if you remain in
the right hand lane.
>>
>>> 2) If you want to move left, there is always some moron that has
>>> caught up to you and slowed down so as to occupy your blind spot
>>> forever. Eventually you are going to miss one of them and then not
>>> "miss" them, and you are all going to end up into a frappin' light
>>> pole...

>>
>> Again, another problem that should be dealt with instead of patched
>> over.

>
> I deal with it in the only manner I have power to.


You could try setting your mirrors properly.
>
>>> The right lane is for merging onto and exiting from a 3-or-more lanes
>>> wide expressway, no matter what the (antiquated) laws say.

>>
>> No it's not for "merging and exiting". It's for driving.

>
> Nope, not any more...


I still drive in it and don't have problems. Plus some merge impair
drivers either get their act together or end up stopping in the
acceleration lane.
 




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