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When will people learn it's a passing lane, not a cruising lane



 
 
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  #21  
Old March 22nd 13, 04:08 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
harry k
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Default When will people learn it's a passing lane, not a cruising lane

On Mar 22, 7:00*am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> On 03/22/2013 09:00 AM, gpsman wrote:
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> > On Mar 22, 8:37 am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> >> On 03/22/2013 01:38 AM, gpsman wrote:

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> >>> On Mar 21, 10:30 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> >>>> On 03/21/2013 09:47 PM, Evan Platt wrote:

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> >>>>> One of my jobs requires me to be EVOC certified every year, and they
> >>>>> always teach to drive in the middle lane. That way if you need to turn
> >>>>> in either direction, you're not all across the road.

>
> >>>> That makes sense on a six or more lane surface street (where such
> >>>> exist,) but not on a multi-lane controlled access highway...

>
> >>> Fascinating analysis.

>
> >> Please explain how you're going to turn left on a controlled-access highway.

>
> > The usual method; turning the "steering wheel" counter-clockwise.

>
> *sigh*
>
> and how are you going to get across the six foot deep grassy depression
> (alternately, Jersey barrier) and where are you going to go after that?
>
> Really, I'm certain that everyone else reading this understood what the
> issues might be with "turning left on a multi-lane controlled-access
> highway" save for you.
>
> nate
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel


Please reread the original "drive in the MIDDLE lane" frees you up
from the slowest traffic, enterying exiting traffic,etc. AND gives you
two choices to use to avoid a problem.

And yes. That IS taught in EVOC.

Harry K
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  #22  
Old March 22nd 13, 04:30 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
gpsman
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Default When will people learn it's a passing lane, not a cruising lane

On Mar 22, 10:00*am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> On 03/22/2013 09:00 AM, gpsman wrote:
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>
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>
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> > On Mar 22, 8:37 am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> >> On 03/22/2013 01:38 AM, gpsman wrote:

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> >>> On Mar 21, 10:30 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> >>>> On 03/21/2013 09:47 PM, Evan Platt wrote:

>
> >>>>> One of my jobs requires me to be EVOC certified every year, and they
> >>>>> always teach to drive in the middle lane. That way if you need to turn
> >>>>> in either direction, you're not all across the road.

>
> >>>> That makes sense on a six or more lane surface street (where such
> >>>> exist,) but not on a multi-lane controlled access highway...

>
> >>> Fascinating analysis.

>
> >> Please explain how you're going to turn left on a controlled-access highway.

>
> > The usual method; turning the "steering wheel" counter-clockwise.

>
> *sigh*
>
> and how are you going to get across the six foot deep grassy depression
> (alternately, Jersey barrier) and where are you going to go after that?


Around blockages/slower traffic, away from the slower and more chaotic
R-lane, etc.

In the case of some crashes, believe it or not, the fastest (and
sometimes only) route to the crash scene is via the opposite side of
the highway.

Surely you've seen images of accesses to both sides of divided limited
access highways posted "Emergency (or Official) Vehicles Only"...
no...?

> Really, I'm certain that everyone else reading this understood what the
> issues might be with "turning left on a multi-lane controlled-access
> highway" save for you.


You seem often certain of things for which you have no evidence, or
that everyone else is as stupid and/or ignorant and/or unimaginative
as yourself.
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- gpsman
  #23  
Old March 23rd 13, 01:13 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Nate Nagel[_2_]
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Default When will people learn it's a passing lane, not a cruising lane

On 03/22/2013 11:30 AM, gpsman wrote:
> On Mar 22, 10:00 am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>> On 03/22/2013 09:00 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 22, 8:37 am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>>> On 03/22/2013 01:38 AM, gpsman wrote:

>>
>>>>> On Mar 21, 10:30 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/21/2013 09:47 PM, Evan Platt wrote:

>>
>>>>>>> One of my jobs requires me to be EVOC certified every year, and they
>>>>>>> always teach to drive in the middle lane. That way if you need to turn
>>>>>>> in either direction, you're not all across the road.

>>
>>>>>> That makes sense on a six or more lane surface street (where such
>>>>>> exist,) but not on a multi-lane controlled access highway...

>>
>>>>> Fascinating analysis.

>>
>>>> Please explain how you're going to turn left on a controlled-access highway.

>>
>>> The usual method; turning the "steering wheel" counter-clockwise.

>>
>> *sigh*
>>
>> and how are you going to get across the six foot deep grassy depression
>> (alternately, Jersey barrier) and where are you going to go after that?

>
> Around blockages/slower traffic, away from the slower and more chaotic
> R-lane, etc.
>
> In the case of some crashes, believe it or not, the fastest (and
> sometimes only) route to the crash scene is via the opposite side of
> the highway.
>
> Surely you've seen images of accesses to both sides of divided limited
> access highways posted "Emergency (or Official) Vehicles Only"...
> no...?


Seems to be something that doesn't happen around here - the area between
the lanes is usually taken up with something else, actually. Often
express lanes, Metro train tracks, etc.

In any case, where I have seen them exist, they're only every couple
miles or so, if you know where they are plenty of time to change lanes
before getting there.

>> Really, I'm certain that everyone else reading this understood what the
>> issues might be with "turning left on a multi-lane controlled-access
>> highway" save for you.

>
> You seem often certain of things for which you have no evidence, or
> that everyone else is as stupid and/or ignorant and/or unimaginative
> as yourself.


No, I figured that an intelligent person would be able to follow the
discussion without my having to spell everything out in excruciating
detail. That actually seems to be the case...

nate


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  #24  
Old March 23rd 13, 02:06 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
gpsman
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Default When will people learn it's a passing lane, not a cruising lane

On Mar 23, 8:13*am, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> On 03/22/2013 11:30 AM, gpsman wrote:
>
> > Around blockages/slower traffic, away from the slower and more chaotic
> > R-lane, etc.

>
> > In the case of some crashes, believe it or not, the fastest (and
> > sometimes only) route to the crash scene is via the opposite side of
> > the highway.

>
> > Surely you've seen images of accesses to both sides of divided limited
> > access highways posted "Emergency (or Official) Vehicles Only"...
> > no...?

>
> Seems to be something that doesn't happen around here - the area between
> the lanes is usually taken up with something else, actually. *Often
> express lanes, Metro train tracks, etc.
>
> In any case, where I have seen them exist, they're only every couple
> miles or so, if you know where they are plenty of time to change lanes
> before getting there.


Why is it important to discard the other logical reasons and limit
your response to "what you've seen"...?

> >> Really, I'm certain that everyone else reading this understood what the
> >> issues might be with "turning left on a multi-lane controlled-access
> >> highway" save for you.

>
> > You seem often certain of things for which you have no evidence, or
> > that everyone else is as stupid and/or ignorant and/or unimaginative
> > as yourself.

>
> No, I figured that an intelligent person would be able to follow the
> discussion without my having to spell everything out in excruciating
> detail. *That actually seems to be the case...


Who in this thread can you cite for which that actually seems the
case...? Who is it that seems to "get" your nonsense?

How can you possibly not realize that you're functionally illiterate
and not at all intelligent despite the evidence you seem obsessed with
continually providing?
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- gpsman
  #25  
Old March 24th 13, 04:00 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
T0m $herman
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Default When will people learn it's a passing lane, not a cruising lane

On 3/22/2013 7:37 AM, Nate Nagel wrote:
> On 03/22/2013 01:38 AM, gpsman wrote:
>> On Mar 21, 10:30 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>> On 03/21/2013 09:47 PM, Evan Platt wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of my jobs requires me to be EVOC certified every year, and they
>>>> always teach to drive in the middle lane. That way if you need to turn
>>>> in either direction, you're not all across the road.
>>>
>>> That makes sense on a six or more lane surface street (where such
>>> exist,) but not on a multi-lane controlled access highway...

>>
>> Fascinating analysis.
>> -----
>>
>> - gpsman
>>

>
> Please explain how you're going to turn left on a controlled-access
> highway.
>
>

Slow down below 25mph so I can move the transfer case lever to 4-High.

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  #26  
Old March 24th 13, 08:13 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
harry k
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Default When will people learn it's a passing lane, not a cruising lane

On Mar 23, 8:00*pm, "T0m $herman"
> wrote:
> On 3/22/2013 7:37 AM, Nate Nagel wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 03/22/2013 01:38 AM, gpsman wrote:
> >> On Mar 21, 10:30 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> >>> On 03/21/2013 09:47 PM, Evan Platt wrote:

>
> >>>> One of my jobs requires me to be EVOC certified every year, and they
> >>>> always teach to drive in the middle lane. That way if you need to turn
> >>>> in either direction, you're not all across the road.

>
> >>> That makes sense on a six or more lane surface street (where such
> >>> exist,) but not on a multi-lane controlled access highway...

>
> >> Fascinating analysis.
> >> * -----

>
> >> - gpsman

>
> > Please explain how you're going to turn left on a controlled-access
> > highway.

>
> Slow down below 25mph so I can move the transfer case lever to 4-High.
>
> --
> T0m $herm@n


Or floor it and try to "surf" my way across

Harry K
 




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