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Old March 28th 08, 01:53 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
Dioclese
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Living near a small rural town, I have only one choice for shopping for car
parts locally. The rear muffler on the 88 VW Fox is leaking terribly. So,
I thought I would inquire about cost and availability. I was being curious.
The salesman/parts vendor said they no longer sell mufflers including
ordering same for customers. His "reason" was the newer cars seldom have
muffler failures. Is this valid or bs?

Regarding my defective muffler, I still have a lifetime warranty at Midas.
I called them, no problem, just bring it in they said.
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Old April 19th 08, 07:23 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
Wiley Post
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Your exhaust system longevity could be related to trip types. The exhaust
mostly rusts out from the inside when exhaust gases cool and water vapor
condenses out. Long highway trips cause the gases to get hotter and there
are fewer such trips per thousand miles than short town trips. Short trips
are harder on the exhaust system. Both rear and middle mufflers were gone
on my 96 Golf after about 8 years and 55000M. A couple of years later the
long pipe from mid muffler to cat was gone. Unless your exhaust system is
made of stainless steel or some other non/low oxidizing material, I don't
see any reason to expect it to last longer than they traditionally have
lasted. On the other hand I have usually found that original exhaust lasts
longer than inexpensive replacement exhaust. I believe this is simply due
to heavier gauge metal, better weld joints, etc.

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"Mark Randol" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Dioclese" <NONE>
> says...
>> The salesman/parts vendor said they no longer sell mufflers including
>> ordering same for customers. His "reason" was the newer cars seldom have
>> muffler failures. Is this valid or bs?

>
> Not an exhaust specialist, but from what I've read and heard...
>
> I don't think I've had a muffler replaced on a car newer than the mid-
> eighties. Since the exhaust system is considered part of the emission
> controls now, and the warranty from the USA for such parts is ?
> 5yr/50kmi?, they've really improved them. Also to stand the heat from
> the catalytic convertors much of it has changed materials to stainless
> steel. The old mild steel you'd get at a custom shop just won't hold up
> long at all anymore.
>
> Mark
> '95 Jetta GLS - all original exhaust after ~120kmi



 




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