A Cars forum. AutoBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AutoBanter forum » Auto newsgroups » Technology
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old July 17th 17, 03:02 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Danny D.[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 135
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 01:39:32 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

> This product?
>
> http://amzn.to/2utIFqd
>
>
> Did you also use the sealer?
>
> http://amzn.to/2utBzSp


Blue Magic (restorer/sealer) versus something from "3M"...

While the net contains anything you want it to contain, it's worth reading
this article of a guy who used the blue magic "restorer" solution.
http://productreviewratings.com/2009...ight-restorer/
"Based on my own results, I cannot recommend blue magic as a way
to completely restore fogged or scratched headlights. Everyone¢s
headlights are different, so I cannot say for sure that the product
won¢t work for some people. However, based on the time I spent with
and without a polishing drill, and comparing the results to the turtle
wax, this product was not worth the $7 bucks it cost me."
He concludes:
"The 3M Headlight Lens Restoration System requires a little extra
elbow grease and cash, but it is the only way you can be sure to
get those headlights looking clean and brand spanking new again!"

Looking up the 3M product...
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/5...ct-for-use.pdf

3M 39008 Headlight Lens Restoration System
https://www.amazon.com/3M-39008-Head.../dp/B001AIZ5HY

There seem to be 9 different 3M "kits" according to the 3M site:
http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-u...estoration-Kit

The MSDS is a multi-part MSDS due to the multiple components in the kit.
http://images.myautoproducts.com/ima...39008_MSDS.pdf
3M (TM) Headlight Lens Restoration System, PN 39008

3M(TM) Headlight Lens Polish PN 39005
* WATER 7732- 8-5 30 - 60%
* HYDROTREATED LIGHT PETROLEUM DISTILLATES 64742-47-8 10 - 30%
* QUARTZ SILICA 14808-60-7 10 - 30%
* KAOLINITE 1318-74-7 3 - 7%
* ASSOCIATED MINERALS Mixture 1 - 5%
* OLEIC ACID 112-80-1 1 - 5%
* SOLVENT-REFINED HEAVY PARAFFINIC PETROLEUM DISTILLATES 64741-88-4 1 - 5%
* MINERAL OIL 64741-89-5 0.5 - 1.5%
* GLYCERIN 56-81-5 0.5 - 1.5%
* POLY(OXYETHYLENE)SORBITAN MONOSTEARATE 9005-67-8 0.1 - 1.0%


Ads
  #12  
Old July 17th 17, 03:04 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Retired
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On 7/16/17 8:07 PM, Danny D. wrote:
> Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing
> chemicals or
> 1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
> indistinguishable from new?
>
> We bought for a college kid an older Toyota Camry of the early 2002-2006
> model vintage where the polycarbonate on the headlights oxidized over
> time
> to a cloudy yellowed appearance (and the speaker covers on the rear deck
> are both burned off by sunlight).
>
> The kid has two options, of course, which is replace the oxidized
> headlights altogether, or try those "toothpaste & sandpaper" deoxidizing
> remedies on the net, which 'sound' maybe a bit too good to be true.
> http://www.jpauleytoyota.com/blog/ho...ights-at-home/
>
>
> While the pictures by the headlight-polishing companies are always
> impressive
> http://xfactorae.com
>
> Yet, this article says that abrasives will only work on "glass" lenses.
> http://www.ebay.com/gds/THE-TRUTH-AB...0945494/g.html
>
>
> Only someone with actual experience would know the answer to that
> question.
>
> Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing
> chemicals or
> 1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
> indistinguishable from new?
>
> If so, which ones do you have the best experience with on Toyota
> headlights?


I used this kit from Sylvania on my 2008 Ford. It uses 3 grades of
sandpaper and 2 liquids. Kit has everything you need.
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...1&prefZC=06032

There is a YouTube video showing how to use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWjS...hrffl3&index=1

It's only been 4 months now but the my lights look great.
  #13  
Old July 17th 17, 03:27 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Danny D.[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 135
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:52:59 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> That would depends on where suburbia is. In the snowbelt, the roads are
> salted and sanded and that can have an effect. Obviously that is only a
> prtion of the problem but look at windshields after 60,000 miles.


Califonria suburbia.
The environment doesn't get any easier than California, except for the
full-time sun - there's almost no dirt, grit, salt, or cold to worry about.

> I'd bet on UV. It is not kind to plastics.


I'd bet on the California UV also, as the plastic is "foggy".
  #14  
Old July 17th 17, 03:28 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Danny D.[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 135
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:58:29 -0500, My 2 Cents wrote:

> 50 bucks for both, new with bulbs. I know what I'd do. Be sure to
> check the shipping costs. Since the kid is college bound give him/her
> the tools and see if they can change them without help.
> http://www.discountbodyparts.com/cat...?dbpcid=gglpla


The web site has the right price $50 (PN SET-20-5219-00) but it doesn't say
it fits the 4-cyl "LE" Camry.

I called 1-888-346-5511x1 and gave them the part number above and they said
that's $25 each lens for a Corolla. A Camry PN is T100121 (passenger side)
$63.44 each lens + shipping + tax.

Still, less than 100 bucks (taxed/shipped, but I'm guessing) is not too bad
for an auto part - but a bit high for a kid with no job other than to be a
full-time student who is a junior and away from home for the first time,
getting settled, 200 miles from her parents.
  #15  
Old July 17th 17, 03:49 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 931
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 22:04:45 -0400, Retired > wrote:

>On 7/16/17 8:07 PM, Danny D. wrote:
>> Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing
>> chemicals or
>> 1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
>> indistinguishable from new?
>>
>> We bought for a college kid an older Toyota Camry of the early 2002-2006
>> model vintage where the polycarbonate on the headlights oxidized over
>> time
>> to a cloudy yellowed appearance (and the speaker covers on the rear deck
>> are both burned off by sunlight).
>>
>> The kid has two options, of course, which is replace the oxidized
>> headlights altogether, or try those "toothpaste & sandpaper" deoxidizing
>> remedies on the net, which 'sound' maybe a bit too good to be true.
>> http://www.jpauleytoyota.com/blog/ho...ights-at-home/
>>
>>
>> While the pictures by the headlight-polishing companies are always
>> impressive
>> http://xfactorae.com
>>
>> Yet, this article says that abrasives will only work on "glass" lenses.
>> http://www.ebay.com/gds/THE-TRUTH-AB...0945494/g.html
>>
>>
>> Only someone with actual experience would know the answer to that
>> question.
>>
>> Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing
>> chemicals or
>> 1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
>> indistinguishable from new?
>>
>> If so, which ones do you have the best experience with on Toyota
>> headlights?

>
>I used this kit from Sylvania on my 2008 Ford. It uses 3 grades of
>sandpaper and 2 liquids. Kit has everything you need.
>https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...1&prefZC=06032
>
>There is a YouTube video showing how to use it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWjS...hrffl3&index=1
>
>It's only been 4 months now but the my lights look great.

I've used several with excellent but short term results. They look
like new for about 5 months-8 months, then go bad again. The sealer
makes 'em last a little longer
  #16  
Old July 17th 17, 04:30 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Danny D.[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 135
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 22:49:42 -0400, wrote:

>>It's only been 4 months now but the my lights look great.

> I've used several with excellent but short term results. They look
> like new for about 5 months-8 months, then go bad again. The sealer
> makes 'em last a little longer


After having looked at the ingredients, all contain a grit, particularly
"aluminum oxide".

Anyone know where to get a free handful of "aluminum oxide" grit?

Given the worst thing that can happen is we ruin what is already ruined, it
may be worth experimenting with some of that bentonite clay I got from a
well driller for use in the heavy poison oak.

I'm thinking a few sheets of 1000 grit to 2000 grit wet sandpaper.
Plus a handful of free bentonite well-driller's clay.
Plus free college-aged elbow grease and free water from the hose.

The "sealer" seems to be Polydimethylsiloxane (aka dimethicone).
It's in shampoo/conditioner to make hair "slippery and shiny".
And in Rain-X. Silly putty too. Silicone grease. All says Wikipedia anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydimethylsiloxane

So maybe a handful of bentonite (which I have) or aluminum oxide (if I can
find it) plus water and fine-grit sandpaper will polish - and - maybe hair
conditioner or Rain-X will seal it?

Where can we get a handful of free "aluminum oxide" & "dimethicone"?
  #17  
Old July 17th 17, 04:57 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
dsi1[_11_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 331
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 2:11:28 PM UTC-10, Danny D. wrote:
> Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing chemicals or
> 1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
> indistinguishable from new?
>
> We bought for a college kid an older Toyota Camry of the early 2002-2006
> model vintage where the polycarbonate on the headlights oxidized over time
> to a cloudy yellowed appearance (and the speaker covers on the rear deck
> are both burned off by sunlight).
>
> The kid has two options, of course, which is replace the oxidized
> headlights altogether, or try those "toothpaste & sandpaper" deoxidizing
> remedies on the net, which 'sound' maybe a bit too good to be true.
> http://www.jpauleytoyota.com/blog/ho...ights-at-home/
>
> While the pictures by the headlight-polishing companies are always
> impressive
> http://xfactorae.com
>
> Yet, this article says that abrasives will only work on "glass" lenses.
> http://www.ebay.com/gds/THE-TRUTH-AB...0945494/g.html
>
> Only someone with actual experience would know the answer to that question.
>
> Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing chemicals or
> 1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
> indistinguishable from new?
>
> If so, which ones do you have the best experience with on Toyota
> headlights?


Your best bet is to get a new pair on eBay. It'll probably cost about $150 and they will be beautiful.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...KMXEva6gWTKJ19
  #18  
Old July 17th 17, 10:09 AM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Vic Smith
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 953
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 01:39:32 +0000, Stormin' Norman > wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:31:57 -0500, Vic Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:07:29 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D." > wrote:
>>
>>>Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing chemicals or
>>>1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
>>>indistinguishable from new?
>>>
>>>We bought for a college kid an older Toyota Camry of the early 2002-2006
>>>model vintage where the polycarbonate on the headlights oxidized over time
>>>to a cloudy yellowed appearance (and the speaker covers on the rear deck
>>>are both burned off by sunlight).
>>>
>>>The kid has two options, of course, which is replace the oxidized
>>>headlights altogether, or try those "toothpaste & sandpaper" deoxidizing
>>>remedies on the net, which 'sound' maybe a bit too good to be true.
>>>http://www.jpauleytoyota.com/blog/ho...ights-at-home/
>>>
>>>While the pictures by the headlight-polishing companies are always
>>>impressive
>>>http://xfactorae.com
>>>
>>>Yet, this article says that abrasives will only work on "glass" lenses.
>>>http://www.ebay.com/gds/THE-TRUTH-AB...0945494/g.html
>>>
>>>Only someone with actual experience would know the answer to that question.
>>>
>>>Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing chemicals or
>>>1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
>>>indistinguishable from new?
>>>
>>>If so, which ones do you have the best experience with on Toyota
>>>headlights?

>>
>>You have to try it yourself. I used Blue Magic on 2 cars and it cleared up fogging,
>>yellowing and very minor scratches. It cost about 6 bucks for enough to for a dozen cars.
>>Just pour a bit on a cotton rag - I like to use old T-shirts - add a minute or two of elbow
>>grease and hose it off. Or spray some Windex and use a rag to clean the residue.
>>The lenses won't look new, because it won't take out pits and deep scratches.
>>But it's a big improvement.

>
>This product?
>
>http://amzn.to/2utIFqd
>


Yes.
>
>Did you also use the sealer?
>
>http://amzn.to/2utBzSp


No.
The lenses were still looking good a couple years later.
The cars were 16 and 10 years old when I used it in 2011.

  #19  
Old July 17th 17, 01:46 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Ed Pawlowski
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 202
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On 7/16/2017 10:28 PM, Danny D. wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:58:29 -0500, My 2 Cents wrote:
>
>> 50 bucks for both, new with bulbs. I know what I'd do. Be sure
>> to check the shipping costs. Since the kid is college bound give
>> him/her the tools and see if they can change them without help.
>> http://www.discountbodyparts.com/cat...?dbpcid=gglpla
>>

>
> The web site has the right price $50 (PN SET-20-5219-00) but it doesn't say
> it fits the 4-cyl "LE" Camry.
>
> I called 1-888-346-5511x1 and gave them the part number above and they said
> that's $25 each lens for a Corolla. A Camry PN is T100121 (passenger side)
> $63.44 each lens + shipping + tax.
> Still, less than 100 bucks (taxed/shipped, but I'm guessing) is not too bad
> for an auto part - but a bit high for a kid with no job other than to be a
> full-time student who is a junior and away from home for the first time,
> getting settled, 200 miles from her parents.



Its a matter of perspective. As a kid in school, I'd go with a
polish/restoration kit As an adult with a decent job I'd go with new
lenses. As an adult with a very good income I'd opt for a new car.
  #20  
Old July 17th 17, 04:11 PM posted to alt.home.repair,rec.autos.tech
Oren[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 63
Default Do the Toyota Camry headlight polishers actually work well?

On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:07:29 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
> wrote:

>Overall, do those yellowed polycarbonate headlight deoxidizing chemicals or
>1600-grit polishing solutions actually work well enough to be
>indistinguishable from new?


Danny,

My wife took our cars to Sam's Club Auto Center to have the headlights
restored, last year. Cost ~$30 and has a 5 year warranty. They still
look great. Living in the desert with blowing sand and UV damage.

I didn't have to do any work :-|

Sam's Club Headlight Renewal:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9RyTa2fVJg>
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
98 Toyota Camry Overheating bsmith95610 Technology 3 April 13th 09 11:05 PM
1983 Toyota Camry LE-red&bge-fVl=mx=.jpg (1/1) [email protected] Auto Photos 0 March 4th 09 10:38 PM
92 toyota camry se noi Technology 5 September 29th 06 03:06 AM
toyota camry alix Technology 1 June 13th 05 07:37 PM
Camry headlight auto-off not working [email protected] Technology 1 May 9th 05 05:15 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 AutoBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.