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On 01/08/2013 02:26 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:
> On 01/08/2013 07:56 AM, gpsman wrote:
>> On Jan 7, 7:07 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>> On 01/07/2013 07:52 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 12:46 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>> On 01/06/2013 10:56 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 6, 8:10 am, Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>>>> it's shocking how many
>>>>>>> literally bald tires I see on some fairly "nice" vehicles. Not
>>>>>>> sure if
>>>>>>> people are just oblivious or figure that AWD will save them when
>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>> driving on Maypops...
>>>
>>>>>> "Save" them... from what...?
>>>
>>>>> Um, hydroplaning when the roads get slightly damp?
>>>
>>>> Really...?!
>>>
>>>>> Are you really as stupid as you act?
>>>
>>>>> Oh, wait, we know that you are. It's amazing how you've been
>>>>> consistently demonstrating your lack of knowledge, reading
>>>>> comprehension, and critical thinking skills for what, going on a
>>>>> decade
>>>>> now? without a shred of self-awareness or embarrassment. That's got to
>>>>> be some kind of a record.
>>>
>>>> That's quite the tirade from someone who snipped their hasty
>>>> generalization I quoted...
>>>
>>> I snipped it because it wasn't relevant.
>>
>> It's relevant to you being full of ****, an unreliable narrator.
>>
>>> We're talking about tread
>>> depth here, not a blowout.
>>
>> They're mutually exclusive...?
>>
>>> The former is significantly more dangerous
>>> than the latter, unless you drive exclusively on dry, clean roads.
>>
>> By your usual measure... whatever pops into your head?
>> -----
>
> You're driving along in the rain on tires with 2mm or less tread depth
> remaining.
>
> Which is more likely to occur, hydroplaning or a blowout?
>
> (never mind that a simple flat tire results in less pucker factor than a
> good high speed hydroplaning incident.)
>
> show your work.
>
> nate
>
>

iow, you're projecting your own lack of competence onto everybody else.

fact is, everybody can see when it's raining, and can drive accordingly.
if, like you, they're not competent to pay attention or drive within
their capacities, it's their own fault.

blowouts can happen any time, and cannot necessarily be anticipated.
they can therefore be significantly more dangerous.


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On 01/10/2013 10:03 AM, Nate Nagel wrote:
> On 01/08/2013 09:06 PM, jim beam wrote:
>> On 01/08/2013 02:26 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:
>>> On 01/08/2013 07:56 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>>> On Jan 7, 7:07 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>>>> On 01/07/2013 07:52 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 6, 12:46 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>>>> On 01/06/2013 10:56 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 8:10 am, Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> it's shocking how many
>>>>>>>>> literally bald tires I see on some fairly "nice" vehicles. Not
>>>>>>>>> sure if
>>>>>>>>> people are just oblivious or figure that AWD will save them when
>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>> driving on Maypops...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Save" them... from what...?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um, hydroplaning when the roads get slightly damp?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Really...?!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you really as stupid as you act?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, wait, we know that you are. It's amazing how you've been
>>>>>>> consistently demonstrating your lack of knowledge, reading
>>>>>>> comprehension, and critical thinking skills for what, going on a
>>>>>>> decade
>>>>>>> now? without a shred of self-awareness or embarrassment. That's
>>>>>>> got to
>>>>>>> be some kind of a record.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's quite the tirade from someone who snipped their hasty
>>>>>> generalization I quoted...
>>>>>
>>>>> I snipped it because it wasn't relevant.
>>>>
>>>> It's relevant to you being full of ****, an unreliable narrator.
>>>>
>>>>> We're talking about tread
>>>>> depth here, not a blowout.
>>>>
>>>> They're mutually exclusive...?
>>>>
>>>>> The former is significantly more dangerous
>>>>> than the latter, unless you drive exclusively on dry, clean roads.
>>>>
>>>> By your usual measure... whatever pops into your head?
>>>> -----
>>>
>>> You're driving along in the rain on tires with 2mm or less tread depth
>>> remaining.
>>>
>>> Which is more likely to occur, hydroplaning or a blowout?
>>>
>>> (never mind that a simple flat tire results in less pucker factor than a
>>> good high speed hydroplaning incident.)
>>>
>>> show your work.
>>>
>>> nate
>>>
>>>
>>
>> iow, you're projecting your own lack of competence onto everybody else.
>>
>> fact is, everybody can see when it's raining, and can drive accordingly.
>> if, like you, they're not competent to pay attention or drive within
>> their capacities, it's their own fault.
>>
>> blowouts can happen any time, and cannot necessarily be anticipated.
>> they can therefore be significantly more dangerous.
>>
>>
>
> Balls. With bald tires, the possibility of hydroplaning approaches unity
> with increased speed and rainfall. Blowouts are very rare even on badly
> worn tires (that are unsafe to drive on due to hydroplaning risks.)
>
> nate
>

what part of being able to allow for something you know, and not being
able to for something you don't, is so hard for you understand? is it
the "know" part? [rhetorical] or the "understand" part? [sic]


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On 01/08/2013 09:06 PM, jim beam wrote:
> On 01/08/2013 02:26 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:
>> On 01/08/2013 07:56 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>> On Jan 7, 7:07 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>>> On 01/07/2013 07:52 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 6, 12:46 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/06/2013 10:56 AM, gpsman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 8:10 am, Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>>>>> it's shocking how many
>>>>>>>> literally bald tires I see on some fairly "nice" vehicles. Not
>>>>>>>> sure if
>>>>>>>> people are just oblivious or figure that AWD will save them when
>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>> driving on Maypops...
>>>>
>>>>>>> "Save" them... from what...?
>>>>
>>>>>> Um, hydroplaning when the roads get slightly damp?
>>>>
>>>>> Really...?!
>>>>
>>>>>> Are you really as stupid as you act?
>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, wait, we know that you are. It's amazing how you've been
>>>>>> consistently demonstrating your lack of knowledge, reading
>>>>>> comprehension, and critical thinking skills for what, going on a
>>>>>> decade
>>>>>> now? without a shred of self-awareness or embarrassment. That's
>>>>>> got to
>>>>>> be some kind of a record.
>>>>
>>>>> That's quite the tirade from someone who snipped their hasty
>>>>> generalization I quoted...
>>>>
>>>> I snipped it because it wasn't relevant.
>>>
>>> It's relevant to you being full of ****, an unreliable narrator.
>>>
>>>> We're talking about tread
>>>> depth here, not a blowout.
>>>
>>> They're mutually exclusive...?
>>>
>>>> The former is significantly more dangerous
>>>> than the latter, unless you drive exclusively on dry, clean roads.
>>>
>>> By your usual measure... whatever pops into your head?
>>> -----
>>
>> You're driving along in the rain on tires with 2mm or less tread depth
>> remaining.
>>
>> Which is more likely to occur, hydroplaning or a blowout?
>>
>> (never mind that a simple flat tire results in less pucker factor than a
>> good high speed hydroplaning incident.)
>>
>> show your work.
>>
>> nate
>>
>>
>
> iow, you're projecting your own lack of competence onto everybody else.
>
> fact is, everybody can see when it's raining, and can drive accordingly.
> if, like you, they're not competent to pay attention or drive within
> their capacities, it's their own fault.
>
> blowouts can happen any time, and cannot necessarily be anticipated.
> they can therefore be significantly more dangerous.
>
>

Balls. With bald tires, the possibility of hydroplaning approaches
unity with increased speed and rainfall. Blowouts are very rare even on
badly worn tires (that are unsafe to drive on due to hydroplaning risks.)

nate

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On Jan 10, 1:03*pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> With bald tires, the possibility of hydroplaning approaches
> unity with increased speed and rainfall. *Blowouts are very rare even on
> badly worn tires (that are unsafe to drive on due to hydroplaning risks.)

So... these many "literally bald tires" that you claim "shock" you...
you find them on "fairly nice" vehicles at crash sites...?
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- gpsman

On 01/10/2013 02:48 PM, gpsman wrote:
> On Jan 10, 1:03 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>> With bald tires, the possibility of hydroplaning approaches
>> unity with increased speed and rainfall. Blowouts are very rare even on
>> badly worn tires (that are unsafe to drive on due to hydroplaning risks.)
>
> So... these many "literally bald tires" that you claim "shock" you...
> you find them on "fairly nice" vehicles at crash sites...?
> -----
>
> - gpsman
>

I'm not in the habit of stopping when other people crash unless I'm an
actual witness, but ockham's razor suggests that that might be a
contributing factor, especially in crashes that occur in the wet.

nate

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On 01/11/2013 02:59 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:
> On 01/11/2013 03:40 PM, gpsman wrote:
>> On Jan 11, 12:35 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>> On 01/10/2013 02:48 PM, gpsman wrote:
>>>> On Jan 10, 1:03 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>>>> With bald tires, the possibility of hydroplaning approaches
>>>>> unity with increased speed and rainfall. Blowouts are very rare
>>>>> even on
>>>>> badly worn tires (that are unsafe to drive on due to hydroplaning
>>>>> risks.)
>>>
>>>> So... these many "literally bald tires" that you claim "shock" you...
>>>> you find them on "fairly nice" vehicles at crash sites...?
>>>
>>> I'm not in the habit of stopping when other people crash unless I'm an
>>> actual witness, but ockham's razor suggests that that might be a
>>> contributing factor, especially in crashes that occur in the wet.
>>
>> I guess the whooshing doesn't register anymore.
>
> Clearly, you're trying to make some sort of point, but as usual, you're
> wrong.
>
> nate
>
>

if he's wrong, that must mean that you /do/ hear the "whooshing" noise
as the point flies over your head!

but what would we expect from nate "it's raining but i'm not slowing
down on my kojak tires, i'm going to keep going and then blame the
weather" idiot nagel. just like when you blame us for pointing out when
you've said something even more really incredibly stoooooopid than normal.


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On Jan 11, 12:35*pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> On 01/10/2013 02:48 PM, gpsman wrote:
> > On Jan 10, 1:03 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> >> With bald tires, the possibility of hydroplaning approaches
> >> unity with increased speed and rainfall. *Blowouts are very rare even on
> >> badly worn tires (that are unsafe to drive on due to hydroplaning risks.)
>
> > So... these many "literally bald tires" that you claim "shock" you...
> > you find them on "fairly nice" vehicles at crash sites...?
>
> I'm not in the habit of stopping when other people crash unless I'm an
> actual witness, but ockham's razor suggests that that might be a
> contributing factor, especially in crashes that occur in the wet.

I guess the whooshing doesn't register anymore.
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- gpsman

On 01/11/2013 03:40 PM, gpsman wrote:
> On Jan 11, 12:35 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>> On 01/10/2013 02:48 PM, gpsman wrote:
>>> On Jan 10, 1:03 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>>>> With bald tires, the possibility of hydroplaning approaches
>>>> unity with increased speed and rainfall. Blowouts are very rare even on
>>>> badly worn tires (that are unsafe to drive on due to hydroplaning risks.)
>>
>>> So... these many "literally bald tires" that you claim "shock" you...
>>> you find them on "fairly nice" vehicles at crash sites...?
>>
>> I'm not in the habit of stopping when other people crash unless I'm an
>> actual witness, but ockham's razor suggests that that might be a
>> contributing factor, especially in crashes that occur in the wet.
>
> I guess the whooshing doesn't register anymore.

Clearly, you're trying to make some sort of point, but as usual, you're
wrong.

nate


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On Jan 11, 5:59*pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> On 01/11/2013 03:40 PM, gpsman wrote:
>
> > On Jan 11, 12:35 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> >> On 01/10/2013 02:48 PM, gpsman wrote:
> >>> On Jan 10, 1:03 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> >>>> With bald tires, the possibility of hydroplaning approaches
> >>>> unity with increased speed and rainfall. *Blowouts are very rare even on
> >>>> badly worn tires (that are unsafe to drive on due to hydroplaning risks.)
>
> >>> So... these many "literally bald tires" that you claim "shock" you...
> >>> you find them on "fairly nice" vehicles at crash sites...?
>
> >> I'm not in the habit of stopping when other people crash unless I'm an
> >> actual witness, but ockham's razor suggests that that might be a
> >> contributing factor, especially in crashes that occur in the wet.
>
> > I guess the whooshing doesn't register anymore.
>
> Clearly, you're trying to make some sort of point, but as usual, you're
> wrong.

The point was you didn't get the point; you're not finding your
literally bald tires on crashed vehicles.

Why don't you delay contesting who is wrong by returning to
substantiating your assertion that hydroplaning is more dangerous than
a blowout due to probability of occurrence...?
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- gpsman

In article >, jim beam > wrote:
>but what would we expect from nate "it's raining but i'm not slowing
>down on my kojak tires, i'm going to keep going and then blame the
>weather" idiot nagel. just like when you blame us for pointing out when
>you've said something even more really incredibly stoooooopid than normal.

I hate to tell you this, Jim, but a lot of people actually do that. A
co-worker of mine wrecked his jeep that way. I think you'd be shocked
at how badly a vehicle can be handling before typical drivers notice.
--scott

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