Robbie Gordon drives just like any simracer

What a sad episode and an embarrassment to not only Nascar but EVERY racer.
Robbie Gordon should not be sitting at Pocono he should be sitting for life.

Everyone watching that race KNEW what Gordon was going to do to Ambrose. No
doubt whatsoever. Just like any idiot simracer (Fredrickson comes to mind)
he proves he's incapable of actually racing anything and proves it over and
over without real consequences.

It's way past time that Gordon's sponsors took action and it's up to
EVERYONE to let them know Robbie Gordon has NO business racing anything
EVER! When sponsorship CAUSES the folks to stop buying their products the
money for this idiot will dry up as it should.

**** ROBBIE GORDON

tell us how you really feel though

You are seeming to grasp capitalism......

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It's way past time that Gordon's sponsors took action and it's up to
EVERYONE to let them know Robbie Gordon has NO business racing anything
EVER! When sponsorship CAUSES the folks to stop buying their products the
money for this idiot will dry up as it should.

On Aug 5, 12:55 pm, "timmy thompson" > wrote:
> What a sad episode and an embarrassment to not only Nascar but EVERY racer.
> Robbie Gordon should not be sitting at Pocono he should be sitting for life.

I haven't seen the event yet. The way it was described to me sounds
like Gordon got screwed. I'll try and find it on youtube to see what
really happened.

Pat Dotson

Great attempt at trolling......
"B Wegner" > wrote in message ...
You are seeming to grasp capitalism......

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"timmy thompson" > wrote in message et...

It's way past time that Gordon's sponsors took action and it's up to
EVERYONE to let them know Robbie Gordon has NO business racing anything
EVER! When sponsorship CAUSES the folks to stop buying their products the
money for this idiot will dry up as it should.

> wrote in message
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: On Aug 5, 12:55 pm, "timmy thompson" > wrote:
: > What a sad episode and an embarrassment to not only Nascar but EVERY
racer.
: > Robbie Gordon should not be sitting at Pocono he should be sitting for
life.
:
: I haven't seen the event yet. The way it was described to me sounds
: like Gordon got screwed. I'll try and find it on youtube to see what
: really happened.

Makes no difference. Point is, he ignored Nascar's black flag under caution
directing him to stay behind the 33 car (12th place). Instead, he stayed
right behind the leader, and then took him out when the race restarted.

I'm glad to see they penalized him heavily by making him sit out today's Cup
race.

On Aug 6, 12:04 am, "Bob V" > wrote:
> Makes no difference. Point is, he ignored Nascar's black flag under caution
> directing him to stay behind the 33 car (12th place). Instead, he stayed
> right behind the leader, and then took him out when the race restarted.

True - though if things happened the way it was first described to me
then NASCAR would deserve a lot of the blame.

I'm still trying to fully understand what happened. I mean, Gordon
was obviously taken out by Ambrose after passing him. On the youtube
video you only see Gordon make a pass for the lead and then
immediately get taken out by Ambrose. What led up to that isn't shown
on the video. Ambrose's right rear corner was busted up by then - the
commentators even mentioned it, and that taking Gordon out might have
been payback.

Seems to me that the question is when did that last yellow come out.
According to the TV coverate the yellow was already out before all
that Gordon/Ambrose action took place. Looks to me like Gordon should
have gotten second place back. I don't know the NASCAR rule book, but
lot's of people say the rule is that if you spin during a yellow you
get your place back, and that it happens all the time.

Pat Dotson

I'm still trying to fully understand what happened. I mean, Gordon
> was obviously taken out by Ambrose after passing him. On the youtube
> video you only see Gordon make a pass for the lead and then
> immediately get taken out by Ambrose. What led up to that isn't shown
> on the video. Ambrose's right rear corner was busted up by then - the
> commentators even mentioned it, and that taking Gordon out might have
> been payback.
>
> Seems to me that the question is when did that last yellow come out.
> According to the TV coverate the yellow was already out before all
> that Gordon/Ambrose action took place. Looks to me like Gordon should
> have gotten second place back. I don't know the NASCAR rule book, but
> lot's of people say the rule is that if you spin during a yellow you
> get your place back, and that it happens all the time.
>
> Pat Dotson
>
Gordon passed Ambrose then got a bit loose (or was blocking) and Ambrose
did spin him. I thought that the full course yellow came out about the time
that Ambrose first made contact with Gordon. The corner yellow was out quite
a bit before the full course yellow. This is what is so confusing about the
whole thing. The corner yellows don't have anything to do with freezing the
field, although you must slow to a safe speed and there is no overtaking in
that corner. Gordon was put back to 12th place by Nascar as they said that
was his position after he resumed pace speed. That is when Gordon started
his 2yr old tirade. His spotter and crew chief both told him to go back to
his position and Gordon said "NO!". The big loser in this whole thing was
Ambrose. I really respect him for his comments and actions after all this.
My take on the whole thing is that Gordon's overall actions were detrimental
to the sport of racing, not just Nascar. I think he got off easy. I had
recorded the race and looked at the incident over and over and this is what
I saw. Of course, others may see it differently.

Ed

If it was anyone but Robby Gordon, I'd probably listen to his
explanation and maybe even sympathize with him.
No doubt his spotter told him that all hell was breaking loose behind
him, so he knew the caution was coming, and
not just a local yellow. So he decides to try and pass before that
happens. The distance between where the crashes were
and when the pass was made was not very far, so I suspect that the
pass was AFTER the full course yellow comes out,
but I can't see anything on the race coverage. Knowing NASCAR's
history with throwing cautions at the slightest
provocation, I don't think this was the time they were tardy.

I suspect his pass came late, then he gets spun and loses a ton of
spots. NASCAR tells him to drop to 12th or so and he
loses his mind. How they in good conscience allowed that race to
resume without RG either in the proper spot or parked
is beyond me. The whole world knew he was going to spin Ambrose. Yet
NASCAR does nothing to prevent it and a result,
the driver, team and sponsor suffers.

Ridiculous decisions by NASCAR and RG, imo. Gordon should see some
stiffer penalties as well.

You heard it right PD.

wrote:
> On Aug 5, 12:55 pm, "timmy thompson" > wrote:
>> What a sad episode and an embarrassment to not only Nascar but EVERY
>> racer. Robbie Gordon should not be sitting at Pocono he should be
>> sitting for life.
>
> I haven't seen the event yet. The way it was described to me sounds
> like Gordon got screwed. I'll try and find it on youtube to see what
> really happened.
>
> Pat Dotson