iRacing Who?

"Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> > Are you suggesting that you were actually trying to be helpful in your
> > responses to schooner? That's a laugh. So you were trying to be
>
> Yes I was, but obviously had a tone to my text, my apologies schooner.
> I still won't be posting any clarifying information from iRacing
> anymore though, will leave it to the marketing dept.
>
> Tim.

Lol, as I was saying............

>On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 17:51:33 -0500, "James Promme" > wrote:
> As to RAS, perhaps he should stay there; plenty of fanbois for him there,
>and the moderation will take care of any problems. He's obviously out of
>his element in an unmoderated locale where when one spews bull****, one gets
>called on it.
>

Isn't THIS RAS? Tim ran RSC for about 5 years, are their 80,000
subscribers all fanboyz too?

Never know, one of my oldest friends lives in Naperville!

GP

>On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:42:40 -0000, Tim Wheatley > wrote:
>On Aug 4, 9:17 pm, GaryP > wrote:
>> Sorry to hear that, but i'm sure we will be communicating at some
>> point in the future. I'll be at Watkins Glen on 8/17-19, stop by!
>> 8-)
>>
>> GP
>
>And let me know if you ever come by Chicago. :-)
>
>Tim.

"GaryP" > wrote in message
...
> >On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 17:51:33 -0500, "James Promme" >
wrote:
> > As to RAS, perhaps he should stay there; plenty of fanbois for him
there,
> >and the moderation will take care of any problems. He's obviously out of
> >his element in an unmoderated locale where when one spews bull****, one
gets
> >called on it.
> >
>
> Isn't THIS RAS? Tim ran RSC for about 5 years, are their 80,000
> subscribers all fanboyz too?


Yep, my mistake; meant RSC. Kind of like "their" <wink>.

As to the 80k, who knows what you're point is, but I never said all were.
Note the word "plenty" and how it differs from "everyone".

On Aug 3, 10:37 am, wrote:
> Are they doing anything at this point other than spending John Henry's
> money on real life racing?

Sorry to start a big thing!

My comment was in regard to the Solstice thing sent out on the iRacing
email list. To me it looks more like going out to the track for some
fun than marketing to real racers. But what do I know?

I'd hate to see Tim leave RAS. Any involvement here is better than no
involvement. Seems like the best thing to do would be to let the
negative stuff slide and not respond to it.

It is nice to see some activity around here for a change though.

Pat Dotson

"James Promme" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steve Blankenship" <steveNOSPAMblankenshipATcomcast.net> wrote in message
> . ..
>> "James Promme" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
>> > ups.com...
>> >> > Otherwise --- you just qualitfy as a "fan-boi"
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Obviously that's all then. c ya.
>> >>
>> >> Tim.
>> >
>> >
>> > In other words; "Oops, got caught talking out my ass again."
>> >
>> > Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
>> >
>>
>> James old boy, when you've contributed a tenth of what Tim has to the
>> simracing community you might qualify to apply as RAS doorman. I doubt
>> that'll ever happen, but till then you might want to just lurk so that
>> you
>> don't expose your ignorance.
>>
>> As they say, better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than open your
>> mouth and confirm it.
>>
>> Word... ;-)
>>
>> SB
>>
>
> Ah, the old "Person X has contributed so much compared to you, person y"
> line of "logic". As if somehow, being a <sound of horns> contributor
> means
> you are absolved from life of ever being wrong about anything, anywhere.
>
> Using your line of thought, you must think life-long politicians know
> what
> they're doing.
>
> As to RAS, perhaps he should stay there; plenty of fanbois for him there,
> and the moderation will take care of any problems. He's obviously out of
> his element in an unmoderated locale where when one spews bull****, one
> gets
> called on it.
>

Like I said...

Thanks for the confirmation.

Cheers...

"Steve Blankenship" <steveNOSPAMblankenshipATcomcast.net> wrote in message
news
> "James Promme" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Steve Blankenship" <steveNOSPAMblankenshipATcomcast.net> wrote in
message
> > . ..
> >> "James Promme" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
> >> > ups.com...
> >> >> > Otherwise --- you just qualitfy as a "fan-boi"
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Obviously that's all then. c ya.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tim.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In other words; "Oops, got caught talking out my ass again."
> >> >
> >> > Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
> >> >
> >>
> >> James old boy, when you've contributed a tenth of what Tim has to the
> >> simracing community you might qualify to apply as RAS doorman. I doubt
> >> that'll ever happen, but till then you might want to just lurk so that
> >> you
> >> don't expose your ignorance.
> >>
> >> As they say, better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than open
your
> >> mouth and confirm it.
> >>
> >> Word... ;-)
> >>
> >> SB
> >>
> >
> > Ah, the old "Person X has contributed so much compared to you, person
y"
> > line of "logic". As if somehow, being a <sound of horns> contributor
> > means
> > you are absolved from life of ever being wrong about anything, anywhere.
> >
> > Using your line of thought, you must think life-long politicians know
> > what
> > they're doing.
> >
> > As to RAS, perhaps he should stay there; plenty of fanbois for him
there,
> > and the moderation will take care of any problems. He's obviously out
of
> > his element in an unmoderated locale where when one spews bull****, one
> > gets
> > called on it.
> >
>
> Like I said...
>
> Thanks for the confirmation.
>
> Cheers...
>

Likewise; glad to be of service.

Nice going Pat! ;-)

GP

>On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:42:45 -0700, wrote:
>On Aug 3, 10:37 am, wrote:
>> Are they doing anything at this point other than spending John Henry's
>> money on real life racing?
>
>Sorry to start a big thing!
>
>My comment was in regard to the Solstice thing sent out on the iRacing
>email list. To me it looks more like going out to the track for some
>fun than marketing to real racers. But what do I know?
>
>I'd hate to see Tim leave RAS. Any involvement here is better than no
>involvement. Seems like the best thing to do would be to let the
>negative stuff slide and not respond to it.
>
>It is nice to see some activity around here for a change though.
>
>Pat Dotson

> wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Aug 3, 10:37 am, wrote:
>> Are they doing anything at this point other than spending John Henry's
>> money on real life racing?
>
> Sorry to start a big thing!
>
> My comment was in regard to the Solstice thing sent out on the iRacing
> email list. To me it looks more like going out to the track for some
> fun than marketing to real racers. But what do I know?
>
> I'd hate to see Tim leave RAS. Any involvement here is better than no
> involvement. Seems like the best thing to do would be to let the
> negative stuff slide and not respond to it.
>
> It is nice to see some activity around here for a change though.
>
> Pat Dotson
>

Did spice things up for a bit, didn't it! IMHO it just shows that people
care about the subject. They come at it from different perspectives, but
realize the significance of the project.

As for their real racing focus, consider this. You've decided to
differentiate your new sim by positioning it as the only true sim in a sea
of games. An arguable point for sure, but IF you want to do that, how to go
about it? For one, get enough real racers (of some reknown) involved,
either contractually or otherwise, that it's the obvious place to go to race
with the guys who are doing it for real. I know guys already do both (Tom
Milner's involvement with rF is just one example), but imagine getting into
say, a virtual 2008 points series race in some class where you know going in
that you're going to be competing against at least some of the same guys who
you're going to see on Speed doing it in the flesh. Think about how that
would enhance both your viewing of the real events AND your virtual
competition. That doesn't exist now, and anyone who can make that happen to
a significant degree will have a real differentiating point, regardless of
the other aspects of the sim.

So getting buy-in from the real racing community will give them the "track
cred" they want and need to position themselves. It's a strategic part of
the business model, which is admittedly not the old one sims have followed.
They've pretty clearly stated they're not going down the old path and are
having to do the groundwork to establish the new one. Which takes time, and
is almost always conducted in private, accompanied by NDAs and the
occasional press release (which are like all press releases - press releases
being pretty much by definition Not news).

Sometimes, producing sims/games is not about writing code... ;-)

SB

>
> As for their real racing focus, consider this.

Not to mention that community is willing to spend as much on brake
disks & tires every event as a lot of us are willing to spend on our
whole racing rig for a year, that might have something to do with
iracing's focus