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Old May 10th 15, 04:17 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Smarty
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I have owned Corvettes for decades, including the C5,C6, and C7, and
have not seen this issue before in any car:

The outside mirrors on both driver and passenger door will not hold
their position when either a door is slammed shut or when a significant
pothole or bump in the road is encountered.

My dealer provided very little help. They first made the (ridiculous)
assumption that the memory position logic was randomly switching the
mirrors from Driver 1 to Driver 2, blaming it possibly on some bad
electronics they would need to troubleshoot and diagnose.

When I demonstrated that the mirrors shifted when the doors were
slammed, they replied that this was "typical" and therefore not fixable.
Had there been another C7 around I would have asked to see them show the
same issue on another C7, but mine was the only one on the lot or in the
shop.

Mine is a very early production C7, one of the first to be sold, so
perhaps this was an early bug, but I am wondering if anybody here has
run into a problem of this type?

On one of my prior Corvettes, the C5, I did have to remove and replace a
mirror, which I did personally, and that mirror had a gimbal with curved
arms which suspended the actual reflective mirror, and this gimbal had
some sort of linkage to the motor used to position it remotely. I assume
this one works the same way, but may have too little friction in the
gimbal or linkage, but this is purely a guess on my part.

Anybody have any opinions or suggestions? Thanks very much!


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  #2  
Old May 10th 15, 04:44 PM posted to alt.autos.corvette
unclevito
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"Smarty" > wrote in message
...
>I have owned Corvettes for decades, including the C5,C6, and C7, and have
>not seen this issue before in any car:
>
> The outside mirrors on both driver and passenger door will not hold their
> position when either a door is slammed shut or when a significant pothole
> or bump in the road is encountered.
>
> My dealer provided very little help. They first made the (ridiculous)
> assumption that the memory position logic was randomly switching the
> mirrors from Driver 1 to Driver 2, blaming it possibly on some bad
> electronics they would need to troubleshoot and diagnose.
>
> When I demonstrated that the mirrors shifted when the doors were slammed,
> they replied that this was "typical" and therefore not fixable. Had there
> been another C7 around I would have asked to see them show the same issue
> on another C7, but mine was the only one on the lot or in the shop.
>
> Mine is a very early production C7, one of the first to be sold, so
> perhaps this was an early bug, but I am wondering if anybody here has run
> into a problem of this type?
>
> On one of my prior Corvettes, the C5, I did have to remove and replace a
> mirror, which I did personally, and that mirror had a gimbal with curved
> arms which suspended the actual reflective mirror, and this gimbal had
> some sort of linkage to the motor used to position it remotely. I assume
> this one works the same way, but may have too little friction in the
> gimbal or linkage, but this is purely a guess on my part.
>
> Anybody have any opinions or suggestions? Thanks very much!
>
>
>


Sorry to hear of your problem. Never smart to buy the first year of
anything and never smart to buy anything from GM. Chevrolet dealers are
morons and crooks. Find a good independent Vette repair shop.

Next time buy a BMW 6 series.


  #3  
Old May 10th 15, 05:58 PM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Smarty
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"unclevito" > wrote:
> "Smarty" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have owned Corvettes for decades, including the C5,C6, and C7, and have
>> not seen this issue before in any car:
>>
>> The outside mirrors on both driver and passenger door will not hold their
>> position when either a door is slammed shut or when a significant pothole
>> or bump in the road is encountered.
>>
>> My dealer provided very little help. They first made the (ridiculous)
>> assumption that the memory position logic was randomly switching the
>> mirrors from Driver 1 to Driver 2, blaming it possibly on some bad
>> electronics they would need to troubleshoot and diagnose.
>>
>> When I demonstrated that the mirrors shifted when the doors were slammed,
>> they replied that this was "typical" and therefore not fixable. Had there
>> been another C7 around I would have asked to see them show the same issue
>> on another C7, but mine was the only one on the lot or in the shop.
>>
>> Mine is a very early production C7, one of the first to be sold, so
>> perhaps this was an early bug, but I am wondering if anybody here has run
>> into a problem of this type?
>>
>> On one of my prior Corvettes, the C5, I did have to remove and replace a
>> mirror, which I did personally, and that mirror had a gimbal with curved
>> arms which suspended the actual reflective mirror, and this gimbal had
>> some sort of linkage to the motor used to position it remotely. I assume
>> this one works the same way, but may have too little friction in the
>> gimbal or linkage, but this is purely a guess on my part.
>>
>> Anybody have any opinions or suggestions? Thanks very much!
>>
>>
>>

>
> Sorry to hear of your problem. Never smart to buy the first year of
> anything and never smart to buy anything from GM. Chevrolet dealers are
> morons and crooks. Find a good independent Vette repair shop.
>
> Next time buy a BMW 6 series.


I have bought a half dozen Corvettes in their first model year, usually in
their very first shipment. My experience over 26 GM cars purchased over 50+
years, and especially in the last 2 decades has been truly very favorable.
I love their Corvettes and have real pride in American engineering, being a
retired American engineer.

Thanks for your assistance and "words of wisdom".
  #4  
Old May 10th 15, 06:49 PM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Rufus
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Smarty wrote:
> I have owned Corvettes for decades, including the C5,C6, and C7, and
> have not seen this issue before in any car:
>
> The outside mirrors on both driver and passenger door will not hold
> their position when either a door is slammed shut or when a significant
> pothole or bump in the road is encountered.
>
> My dealer provided very little help. They first made the (ridiculous)
> assumption that the memory position logic was randomly switching the
> mirrors from Driver 1 to Driver 2, blaming it possibly on some bad
> electronics they would need to troubleshoot and diagnose.
>
> When I demonstrated that the mirrors shifted when the doors were
> slammed, they replied that this was "typical" and therefore not fixable.
> Had there been another C7 around I would have asked to see them show the
> same issue on another C7, but mine was the only one on the lot or in the
> shop.
>
> Mine is a very early production C7, one of the first to be sold, so
> perhaps this was an early bug, but I am wondering if anybody here has
> run into a problem of this type?
>
> On one of my prior Corvettes, the C5, I did have to remove and replace a
> mirror, which I did personally, and that mirror had a gimbal with curved
> arms which suspended the actual reflective mirror, and this gimbal had
> some sort of linkage to the motor used to position it remotely. I assume
> this one works the same way, but may have too little friction in the
> gimbal or linkage, but this is purely a guess on my part.
>
> Anybody have any opinions or suggestions? Thanks very much!
>
>


What happens when you try to reset them from memory? If they do return
to their memorized positions then I would suspect faulty electronics,
but if they don't I would suspect something wrong with the drive motors
and/or gears and I would argue that GM should replace both mirrors for you.

It's a bit odd that it happens to both mirrors and not just
one...something's sure fishy, IMO. It's like the drive motors are
dropping their holding torque. I know that neither my '08 C6 Z06 or '87
C4 exhibit anything like this.

--
- Rufus
  #5  
Old May 11th 15, 05:11 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
unclevito
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"Smarty" > wrote in message
...
> "unclevito" > wrote:
>> "Smarty" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I have owned Corvettes for decades, including the C5,C6, and C7, and
>>> have
>>> not seen this issue before in any car:
>>>
>>> The outside mirrors on both driver and passenger door will not hold
>>> their
>>> position when either a door is slammed shut or when a significant
>>> pothole
>>> or bump in the road is encountered.
>>>
>>> My dealer provided very little help. They first made the (ridiculous)
>>> assumption that the memory position logic was randomly switching the
>>> mirrors from Driver 1 to Driver 2, blaming it possibly on some bad
>>> electronics they would need to troubleshoot and diagnose.
>>>
>>> When I demonstrated that the mirrors shifted when the doors were
>>> slammed,
>>> they replied that this was "typical" and therefore not fixable. Had
>>> there
>>> been another C7 around I would have asked to see them show the same
>>> issue
>>> on another C7, but mine was the only one on the lot or in the shop.
>>>
>>> Mine is a very early production C7, one of the first to be sold, so
>>> perhaps this was an early bug, but I am wondering if anybody here has
>>> run
>>> into a problem of this type?
>>>
>>> On one of my prior Corvettes, the C5, I did have to remove and replace a
>>> mirror, which I did personally, and that mirror had a gimbal with curved
>>> arms which suspended the actual reflective mirror, and this gimbal had
>>> some sort of linkage to the motor used to position it remotely. I assume
>>> this one works the same way, but may have too little friction in the
>>> gimbal or linkage, but this is purely a guess on my part.
>>>
>>> Anybody have any opinions or suggestions? Thanks very much!
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Sorry to hear of your problem. Never smart to buy the first year of
>> anything and never smart to buy anything from GM. Chevrolet dealers are
>> morons and crooks. Find a good independent Vette repair shop.
>>
>> Next time buy a BMW 6 series.

>
> I have bought a half dozen Corvettes in their first model year, usually in
> their very first shipment. My experience over 26 GM cars purchased over
> 50+
> years, and especially in the last 2 decades has been truly very favorable.
> I love their Corvettes and have real pride in American engineering, being
> a
> retired American engineer.
>
> Thanks for your assistance and "words of wisdom".
>


This is a better site to answer your question.
www.corvetteactioncenter.com

Vito


  #6  
Old May 11th 15, 10:44 PM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Smarty
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Default Loose Mirrors

On 5/11/2015 12:11 AM, unclevito wrote:
> "Smarty" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "unclevito" > wrote:
>>> "Smarty" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I have owned Corvettes for decades, including the C5,C6, and C7, and
>>>> have
>>>> not seen this issue before in any car:
>>>>
>>>> The outside mirrors on both driver and passenger door will not hold
>>>> their
>>>> position when either a door is slammed shut or when a significant
>>>> pothole
>>>> or bump in the road is encountered.
>>>>
>>>> My dealer provided very little help. They first made the (ridiculous)
>>>> assumption that the memory position logic was randomly switching the
>>>> mirrors from Driver 1 to Driver 2, blaming it possibly on some bad
>>>> electronics they would need to troubleshoot and diagnose.
>>>>
>>>> When I demonstrated that the mirrors shifted when the doors were
>>>> slammed,
>>>> they replied that this was "typical" and therefore not fixable. Had
>>>> there
>>>> been another C7 around I would have asked to see them show the same
>>>> issue
>>>> on another C7, but mine was the only one on the lot or in the shop.
>>>>
>>>> Mine is a very early production C7, one of the first to be sold, so
>>>> perhaps this was an early bug, but I am wondering if anybody here has
>>>> run
>>>> into a problem of this type?
>>>>
>>>> On one of my prior Corvettes, the C5, I did have to remove and replace a
>>>> mirror, which I did personally, and that mirror had a gimbal with curved
>>>> arms which suspended the actual reflective mirror, and this gimbal had
>>>> some sort of linkage to the motor used to position it remotely. I assume
>>>> this one works the same way, but may have too little friction in the
>>>> gimbal or linkage, but this is purely a guess on my part.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody have any opinions or suggestions? Thanks very much!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Sorry to hear of your problem. Never smart to buy the first year of
>>> anything and never smart to buy anything from GM. Chevrolet dealers are
>>> morons and crooks. Find a good independent Vette repair shop.
>>>
>>> Next time buy a BMW 6 series.

>> I have bought a half dozen Corvettes in their first model year, usually in
>> their very first shipment. My experience over 26 GM cars purchased over
>> 50+
>> years, and especially in the last 2 decades has been truly very favorable.
>> I love their Corvettes and have real pride in American engineering, being
>> a
>> retired American engineer.
>>
>> Thanks for your assistance and "words of wisdom".
>>

> This is a better site to answer your question.
> www.corvetteactioncenter.com
>
> Vito
>
> Thanks!




  #7  
Old May 21st 15, 07:08 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Dad[_3_]
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On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 11:17:41 PM UTC-4, Smarty wrote:
> I have owned Corvettes for decades, including the C5,C6, and C7, and
> have not seen this issue before in any car:
>
> The outside mirrors on both driver and passenger door will not hold
> their position when either a door is slammed shut or when a significant
> pothole or bump in the road is encountered.
>
> My dealer provided very little help. They first made the (ridiculous)
> assumption that the memory position logic was randomly switching the
> mirrors from Driver 1 to Driver 2, blaming it possibly on some bad
> electronics they would need to troubleshoot and diagnose.
>
> When I demonstrated that the mirrors shifted when the doors were
> slammed, they replied that this was "typical" and therefore not fixable.
> Had there been another C7 around I would have asked to see them show the
> same issue on another C7, but mine was the only one on the lot or in the
> shop.
>
> Mine is a very early production C7, one of the first to be sold, so
> perhaps this was an early bug, but I am wondering if anybody here has
> run into a problem of this type?
>
> On one of my prior Corvettes, the C5, I did have to remove and replace a
> mirror, which I did personally, and that mirror had a gimbal with curved
> arms which suspended the actual reflective mirror, and this gimbal had
> some sort of linkage to the motor used to position it remotely. I assume
> this one works the same way, but may have too little friction in the
> gimbal or linkage, but this is purely a guess on my part.
>
> Anybody have any opinions or suggestions? Thanks very much!


Nope, mirrors are just as stable on the '15 C7 as they were on C5 and the C6. The '64 is getting a bit loose but it's still and original. I can stand some pocks and poor adjustments stability for the price they want for new one.
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Old May 23rd 15, 12:45 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
unclevito
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"Dad" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 11:17:41 PM UTC-4, Smarty wrote:
>> I have owned Corvettes for decades, including the C5,C6, and C7, and
>> have not seen this issue before in any car:
>>
>> The outside mirrors on both driver and passenger door will not hold
>> their position when either a door is slammed shut or when a significant
>> pothole or bump in the road is encountered.
>>
>> My dealer provided very little help. They first made the (ridiculous)
>> assumption that the memory position logic was randomly switching the
>> mirrors from Driver 1 to Driver 2, blaming it possibly on some bad
>> electronics they would need to troubleshoot and diagnose.
>>
>> When I demonstrated that the mirrors shifted when the doors were
>> slammed, they replied that this was "typical" and therefore not fixable.
>> Had there been another C7 around I would have asked to see them show the
>> same issue on another C7, but mine was the only one on the lot or in the
>> shop.
>>
>> Mine is a very early production C7, one of the first to be sold, so
>> perhaps this was an early bug, but I am wondering if anybody here has
>> run into a problem of this type?
>>
>> On one of my prior Corvettes, the C5, I did have to remove and replace a
>> mirror, which I did personally, and that mirror had a gimbal with curved
>> arms which suspended the actual reflective mirror, and this gimbal had
>> some sort of linkage to the motor used to position it remotely. I assume
>> this one works the same way, but may have too little friction in the
>> gimbal or linkage, but this is purely a guess on my part.
>>
>> Anybody have any opinions or suggestions? Thanks very much!

>
> Nope, mirrors are just as stable on the '15 C7 as they were on C5 and the
> C6. The '64 is getting a bit loose but it's still and original. I can
> stand some pocks and poor adjustments stability for the price they want
> for new one.
>


Put in some red loctite. That will firm them up and that is what I do with
my 64.


 




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