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On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954"
> wrote:

>As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases.

Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and
setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge
investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power
needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to
support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

"donquijote1954" > wrote in message
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> "The terrorists who attacked America weren't being funded primarily by
> drug money. They were being funded primarily by oil money. In other
> words, it isn't the drug addicts who should feel guilty. It's the
> gasoline addicts."
>

So where did this "oil money" come from? Before you answer, be careful,
you about to justify the Iraq War.

In article >,
Baxter > wrote:
>
>"Matthew T. Russotto" > wrote in message
et...
>>
>> Fantasy. Utter fantasy. Remove the US occupation and you still have left
>> every grudge, every grievance, every complaint that one Iraqi group
>> has against another, not to mention the complaints they have with
>> Iraq's neighbors (and Iraq's neighbors likely ambitions in Iraq). The
>> idea that Iraq is filled with reasonable people turned to radicalism
>> by the US occupation is simply a fairy tale.
>
>Leave them to work out their own problems. Or do you think we should be a
>Nanny State?

Oh, no, I agree that the US should withdraw. I simply disagree about
the outcome of that withdrawal.


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In article <ABKTh.2406$vD4.975@bigfe9>,
Amy Blankenship > wrote:
>
>
>That's plain silly. Republicans don't even let their children watch Harry
>Potter, because they believe it might lead them to believe in magic.

Nonsense. There are many enlightened Republicans who have no problem
with magic. THEY don't allow their children to watch Harry Potter
because the Malfoys hit a little too close to home.



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In article >,
dgk > wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:56:11 -0500,
>(Matthew T. Russotto) wrote:
>>
>>Fantasy. Utter fantasy. Remove the US occupation and you still have left
>>every grudge, every grievance, every complaint that one Iraqi group
>>has against another, not to mention the complaints they have with
>>Iraq's neighbors (and Iraq's neighbors likely ambitions in Iraq). The
>>idea that Iraq is filled with reasonable people turned to radicalism
>>by the US occupation is simply a fairy tale.
>>
>>>Look at Iran. Before we invaded Iraq, the mullahs were clinging to
>>>power and there were large pro-western demonstrations. As soon as we
>>>invaded, the mullahs were firmly back in power.
>>
>>Before we invaded Iraq, the mullahs in Iran had been in power for many
>>years, and they still remain so. They were never in any danger of
>>being ousted.
>
>
>I repeat Matthew, what was the Iraq invasion all about? Come on, you
>know.

Actually, I don't. It wasn't about oil, or at least not in the
obvious way. The fact that Saddam took a shot at Bush's daddy
probably had something to do with it.

>And you are wrong about Iran. The mullahs were losing their grip on
>power. Our invasion of Iraq ended that, for the short term.

The mullahs have supposedly been losing their grip since the joke "The
Ayatollah Khomeni thanks you on behalf of the moderates in Iran" was
current, during the Reagan era. All wishful thinking.

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Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954"
> > wrote:
>
>> As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases.
>
> Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and
> setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge
> investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power
> needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to
> support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution.
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...

Has anybody looked at the current generation of high-tech (sic) windmills?
They are a joke, and bird killers to boot.
The best windmill designs were those that were in use in the 1930's when
the TVA project demanded that a farmer take down or disable his windmill
to get power to the farm. Obviously that would take enough electricity
to pay for running out the electricity so the farmer could have electric
lights. The new, 3 skinny blade windmills are a joke since 90% of the
air pass right through the gaps.
The intake vanes of a modern jet engine show how a windmill should be
designed, along with a feathering mechanism for windy days.
Too much thinking for the current crop of over-educated dimwits.
Bill Baka

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:31:11 -0700, Bill > wrote:

>Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>> On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases.
>>
>> Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and
>> setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge
>> investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power
>> needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to
>> support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution.
>>
>> Curtis L. Russell
>> Odenton, MD (USA)
>> Just someone on two wheels...
>
>Has anybody looked at the current generation of high-tech (sic) windmills?
>They are a joke, and bird killers to boot.

Oh, F the damn birds. Sit under the damn thing with a net, pluck 'em, fry at
350 degrees.

>The best windmill designs were those that were in use in the 1930's when
>the TVA project demanded that a farmer take down or disable his windmill
>to get power to the farm. Obviously that would take enough electricity
>to pay for running out the electricity so the farmer could have electric
>lights. The new, 3 skinny blade windmills are a joke since 90% of the
>air pass right through the gaps.

Will still produce 10 Kw from a 27 foot fan in a 12 mph wind, so they can't be
all that bad.

>The intake vanes of a modern jet engine show how a windmill should be
>designed, along with a feathering mechanism for windy days.
>Too much thinking for the current crop of over-educated dimwits.
>Bill Baka

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> >> >> >> >> > Do stay on track - the issue is whether we spend hundreds of
> >> >> >> >> > billions
> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> > dollars on Iraqi's or whether we spend a tenth of that on
our
> > own
> >> >> >> > people.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > (and yes, there are reports that elections are not
> >> >> >> >> > particularly
> >> > fair
> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > LA.)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Then why did you bring up your feeling that the people of
> > Louisiana
> >> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> somehow downtrodden in a way that Mississippians aren't?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Your question is nonsensical.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Obviously you don't have an answer then.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > No, your question is nonsensical in this context. Your question
> > might
> >> > be
> >> >> > more appropriate in context with the US Attorneys firings that are
> >> >> > in
> >> > the
> >> >> > news.
> >> >>
> >> >> I see you've learned one of George Conklin's less admirable
> >> > techniques...If
> >> >> someone disagrees with you or questions you further, declare the
> >> >> comment/question irrelevant, drivel, or nonsensical. Nice :-)
> >> >>
> >> > Then suppose you detail that relevance for us?
> >>
> >> That's what I was asking you to do.
> >>
> > Let's see - you want *me* to explain the relelavance of *your*
response?!
> > That's the sort of thing Conklin does.
>
> No, I want you to explain why you think your feeling that the people of
New
> Orleans are somehow uniquely downtrodden has anything to do with the topic
> of this threat or even this forum as a whole. And as an aside, do you
have
> any direct experience of the area that was hit by Katrina to base your
> reaction on?
>
"Feeling that the people of New Orleans are somehow uniquely downtrodden"
are YOUR words - YOU explain them.

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"Curtis L. Russell" > wrote in message
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> On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954"
> > wrote:
>
> >As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases.
>
> Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and
> setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge
> investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power
> needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to
> support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution.
>
I guess you've never been to the Oregon Coast.

"nash" > wrote in message
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> "So defined, I repeat, freedom means concretely freedoms of various
> kinds, which may be at least roughly specified. Among the most
> fundamental is political freedom, involving some means of control of
> rulers by the ruled, some protection of the individual against
> government by legal rights or civil liberties."
>
> <<<<<,
>
> and we all know how well that worked out. Sorry could not resist
>

Y'all need to read Hofstadter's book on the paranoid in American politics.
You are good examples.