Heating Oil in TDI?

Hi everyone,

Can I use #2 heating oil in my 04 TDI Passat? If so, are there any adverse
issues to deal with?

Thanks.

David

"D&LBusch" > wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>Can I use #2 heating oil in my 04 TDI Passat? If so, are there any adverse
>issues to deal with?
>
>Thanks.
>
>David
>
You shouldn't.

No lube qualities in it for starters.

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:42:58 -0400, SnoBrdr >
wrote:

>"D&LBusch" > wrote:
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Can I use #2 heating oil in my 04 TDI Passat? If so, are there any adverse
>>issues to deal with?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>David
>>
>You shouldn't.
>
>No lube qualities in it for starters.

#2 heating oil is #2 diesel fuel without road tax paid. The only down
side is that if the authorities catch you, it is (technically) a $10K
fine.

If you are really worried about lubricity, then add some. There are
several good formulas out there.

On Apr 3, 3:42*pm, SnoBrdr > wrote:
> "D&LBusch" > wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
>
> >Can I use #2 heating oil in my 04 TDI Passat? *If so, are there any adverse
> >issues to deal with?
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >David
>
> You shouldn't.
>
> No lube qualities in it for starters.

Actually, quite the opposite. #2 heating oil, even #1 (Kerosene) is
typically higher in paraffin components (larger fractions and waxes)
than diesel fuel. This increases lubricity in actual practice.
However, such niceties as moisture content, solids (small particles of
carbon) and other contaminants are less stringent for heating oil.

So, #2 diesel is pretty much uniform, low paraffin cetane and smaller
fractions all indexed to Cetane in terms of ignition characteristics.
It starts to gel at ~10F, "winterized" diesel taking this to about
0F.

Home heating oil (#2 fuel oil) will gel near the freezing mark due to
the typically high paraffin content amongst other things.

Diesel fuel is now limited as to sulphur content to 0.05%. Home
heating oil is not, being from 0.5 - 1.5% (sometimes greater) sulphur
depending on location. Sulphur will destroy the catalysts in some
diesel engines as well as wreck the emissions controls. And add to
this the likely need to change the fuel filter every 100 gallons or so
- no kidding.

It ain't nohow lubricity but other characteristics that make burning
home heating oil in a modern diesel a bad idea. Additives will not
make it any better.

Consider the cost of the various taxes - maybe as much as $1/gallon.
Figure the cost of a new exhaust system and/or injection system and/or
both, not to mention the down-time.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

I don't agree with everything here. , I wouldn't do it on the new VW diesels
with the exhaust systems that will fail. And they will. But the new diesel
fuel is being sold contaminated beyond limits anyways. But heating oil will
run just fine on the older ones without the low sulphur catalytic
converters. The sulphur and lubrication , and contaminants doesn't matter.
That's what your fuel filter is for. It is Heating oil without road tax and
a useless amount of sulphur removed to appease the EPA. . And kero will
work too for a while.
> wrote in message
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On Apr 3, 3:42 pm, SnoBrdr > wrote:
> "D&LBusch" > wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
>
> >Can I use #2 heating oil in my 04 TDI Passat? If so, are there any
> >adverse
> >issues to deal with?
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >David
>
> You shouldn't.
>
> No lube qualities in it for starters.

Actually, quite the opposite. #2 heating oil, even #1 (Kerosene) is
typically higher in paraffin components (larger fractions and waxes)
than diesel fuel. This increases lubricity in actual practice.
However, such niceties as moisture content, solids (small particles of
carbon) and other contaminants are less stringent for heating oil.

So, #2 diesel is pretty much uniform, low paraffin cetane and smaller
fractions all indexed to Cetane in terms of ignition characteristics.
It starts to gel at ~10F, "winterized" diesel taking this to about
0F.

Home heating oil (#2 fuel oil) will gel near the freezing mark due to
the typically high paraffin content amongst other things.

Diesel fuel is now limited as to sulphur content to 0.05%. Home
heating oil is not, being from 0.5 - 1.5% (sometimes greater) sulphur
depending on location. Sulphur will destroy the catalysts in some
diesel engines as well as wreck the emissions controls. And add to
this the likely need to change the fuel filter every 100 gallons or so
- no kidding.

It ain't nohow lubricity but other characteristics that make burning
home heating oil in a modern diesel a bad idea. Additives will not
make it any better.

Consider the cost of the various taxes - maybe as much as $1/gallon.
Figure the cost of a new exhaust system and/or injection system and/or
both, not to mention the down-time.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA