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Old August 13th 12, 08:46 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent[_4_]
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On 2012-08-12, RichA > wrote:
> On Aug 11, 8:08*pm, Brent > wrote:
>> On 2012-08-11, NotMe > wrote:
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>> > "Brent" > wrote in message
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>> >> On 2012-08-10, RichA > wrote:
>> >>> It is of no value. *It has raised corn prices (and all the myriad
>> >>> foods associated with it) by 100% over 1.5 years. *It scours engine
>> >>> components of their protective oil layer. It dries out seals. *It
>> >>> should be abolished.
>> >>> P.S. Enviroqueers; *Lead by example, STOP DRIVING.

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>> >> The environment is the excuse. It has nothing to do with
>> >> environmentalists. *It has to do with big business and the corn lobby.

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>> >> Corn ethanol is stupid. Sugar cane ethanol works (energy &
>> >> economically). But here's the problem, can't make sugar cane ethanol in
>> >> the contintal USA because it doesn't grow here. It works nicely for
>> >> Brazil. Could work for Hawaii, but Hawaii being part of the USA is stuck
>> >> with US politics so they import corn ethanol instead of making their own
>> >> locally with sugar cane.

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>> > Can't? *Louisiana, MS, Texas come to mind. *Also sugar beets. *My
>> > grandfather ran some of his trucks on ethanol during WWII.

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>> Sugar beets will not be as good as sugar cane. What makes sugar cane
>> ethanol work so well is that another part of the plant fuels the process
>> to make the ethanol. This way the energy is 100% gain, as opposed to an
>> energy loss with corn ethanol.

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> Anyone who thinks ethanol, from whatever source is FREE or cheap is
> INSANE and CLUELESS about the energy USED to produce it.


As I stated above the energy to produce sugar cane ethanol comes another
part of the sugar cane plant. This is what makes it viable. Don't
believe me? Feel free to research it.

Corn ethanol is an energy loser and at the very best resarch method
break even. It is folly.



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  #22  
Old August 13th 12, 08:48 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent[_4_]
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On 2012-08-12, Ashton Crusher > wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:11:56 +0000 (UTC), Brent
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>>On 2012-08-12, Ashton Crusher > wrote:
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>>> Anyone who needs a definition of stupidity need only look to the US
>>> Congress for stupidity in spades. Not to mention graft, corruption,
>>> insider dealing, etc, etc etc.

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>>There's nothing stupid about what they do from their point of view. If
>>you haven't noticed those in congress and those close to congress keep
>>getting more wealthy and gaining more power. Nothing stupid about it wrt
>>their personal gain.
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> That's true, there's no question that it's not just individual
> stupidity, many of them are quite bright individually. But
> collectively they are as dumb as a bag of rocks. Rather then get this
> country on track to come up from being number 24 in the world in
> education, they just have endless fights over whether evolution or
> creationism should be taught in schools. Or trying to control women's
> bodies, and on and on with their pet idiotic views of things that they
> want to institutionalize.


Collectively those in and close to the government grow more wealthy as
we grow poorer. They are not dumb even collectively. Part of being able
to pull that off is keeping people distracted with various dramas.


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Old August 14th 12, 02:45 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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On Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:08:41 AM UTC-5, RichA wrote:
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> > On Friday, August 10, 2012 1:56:16 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

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> > > It is of no value. *It has raised corn prices (and all the myriad

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> > > foods associated with it) by 100% over 1.5 years. *It scours engine

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> > > components of their protective oil layer. It dries out seals. *It

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> > > P.S. Enviroqueers; *Lead by example, STOP DRIVING.

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> > If it weren't for the "enviroqueers" you'd be living in a world of toxic water and air. * If you don't know what that would be like I suggest you go live in a third world country that doesn't adhere to any environmental policies. *I have, and let me tell you it isn't pretty -- air so freakin' thick with pollution you can't see anymore than 30 feet in front of you, and the associated breathing problems. *It sucks. *I got back to the States and I kissed my catalytic convertors and said thank you environmentalists!


> Completely different pollutants AND solutions. Your argument is


> nonsense.


Read it again. You're bad mouthing environmentalist -- calling them "enviroqueers." I'm saying you shouldn't because they're responsible for the cleaner water and air we ALL enjoy. So yes, my comments were spot on.
 




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