Got the New Z06

On Aug 12, 12:27*pm, "'Key" > wrote:
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> Sounds like an awesome car overall. *Id consider getting it
> DynoTuned which will include optimizing air/fuel ratios ,
> eliminating
> 1-4 shift, disable o2 sensor so you can update the exhaust
> if you
> like, have the radiator fan start ramping up sooner (and
> max. speed
> sooner) for a cooler running motor , as well as a few other
> goodies.
> I had my 2006 C6 done recently and its smoother running and
> more
> responsive. I suspect fuel mileage will increase also.
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> reply
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> the New Z06 doesn't need an exhaust mod.
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> its not *like your 06-C6
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> my2¢
> --
> 'Key
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REPLY: Headers improves the Z06 as well as a DynoTune. Go to
corvetteforum.com . If the OP wants to keep it stock then thats his
perogative but theres advantages to be had from a performance,
efficiency, and motor longevity standpoint ; more than how the GM
Engineers designed any car including the Z06.

On Aug 12, 1:16*pm, "Dad" > wrote:
> "'Key" > wrote in message
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> > Sounds like an awesome car overall. *Id consider getting it
> > DynoTuned which will include optimizing air/fuel ratios ,
> > eliminating
> > 1-4 shift, disable o2 sensor so you can update the exhaust if you
> > like, have the radiator fan start ramping up sooner (and max. speed
> > sooner) for a cooler running motor , as well as a few other goodies.
> > I had my 2006 C6 done recently and its smoother running and more
> > responsive. I suspect fuel mileage will increase also.
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> > reply
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> > the New Z06 doesn't need an exhaust mod.
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> > its not *like your 06-C6
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> > my2¢
> > --
> > 'Key
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> Careful, you're going to overload his thinking. Not much respect for
> someone that advocates disabling the o2 sensor. If you remember he's
> the one that berated this group for ever contemplating a speed over 55
> and threatened to dive in front of faster traffic in the left lane at
> 55 MPH. Never under estimate the value of a dyno tune but the first
> one should come from the dealer and if he can't do it, find another
> dealer. Good record to have and can find an early problem that can be
> overlooked by the new car smell, so to speak.
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> Plus there is little evidence that running it cooler does anything for
> performance let alone gas mileage. Also very doubtful he had his dyno
> tuned and has any proof it runs smoother or has any horsepower gain,
> response. If he had he would have said he got 19 more horses by the
> tune, or .2 which may be closer.... The biggest advantage of a dyno
> tune is bragging rights or a base to work from for future problems.
> Messing with Federal exhaust mandates is not something legitimate
> shops will do, to expensive and lost work from jail time can result.
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> Dad - I can't drive 55 - well maybe in the driveway
> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
> 64 Red/red/white top/4spd *Prize winner at all but 1 show this year
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REPLY: You lied about me threatening going 55 mph in the left lane .
Your other assertions regarding DynoTuning are false too and youre
using willful ignorance in an attempt to defame .

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On Aug 12, 12:27 pm, "'Key" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
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> Sounds like an awesome car overall. Id consider getting it
> DynoTuned which will include optimizing air/fuel ratios ,
> eliminating
> 1-4 shift, disable o2 sensor so you can update the exhaust
> if you
> like, have the radiator fan start ramping up sooner (and
> max. speed
> sooner) for a cooler running motor , as well as a few other
> goodies.
> I had my 2006 C6 done recently and its smoother running and
> more
> responsive. I suspect fuel mileage will increase also.
> ==========
> reply
>
> the New Z06 doesn't need an exhaust mod.
>
> its not like your 06-C6
>
> my2¢
> --
> 'Key
> =====

*REPLY: Headers improves the Z06 as well as a DynoTune. Go to
*corvetteforum.com . If the OP wants to keep it stock then thats his
*perogative but theres advantages to be had from a performance,
*efficiency, and motor longevity standpoint ; more than how the GM
*Engineers designed any car including the Z06.

Any engine tuned to operate in a given environment will do better but
what you are implying is not true. The headers help when? Is the RPM
that the headers become beneficial anywhere near where it can be
driven on the street?

Corvette owners put things on and in their Corvette because they feel
it makes them different from the Corvette in the next lane at a stop
light. In most cases it has some truth to it, like they have spent
more money to drive it. Most of the modifications short of major
surgery on the engine does little good for the Corvette and few with
the radical surgery go back on the street. That was not true only a
few years back but with the advent of computer design and function
control it is so small as to be stupid to go after that .2 HP gain.

If you're on Corvette Forum as you imply then you saw the header
"Here's why no mods are needed on the ZR1" and it is nearly the same
for the Z06. Read what Hib Halverson has to say about it. By the way
he does mention another forum I belong to that I read and contribute
to on a regular basis. As you can see that one started a he said, she
said debate that says you get major HP only one way, major changes,
not mini mods.

Most of what you are saying is a repeat of the people selling their
gismos and snake oil. I'll repeat that a good tune is a benefit, it
will/can smooth out the manufacturing lumps in the computer control,
that's all. Will you see/feel an advantage, maybe, but since you spent
the bucks you sure won't admit it was a flop and most likely will use
it as a bragging right either way.

What was your HP gain when you had your dyno tune or did you get a
copy of the runs they made? Post a picture, plenty of free sites to
load one.

Once again I state that disabling the o2 sensor is illegal and should
not be done as dave suggests.

On Aug 14, 6:23*am, " > wrote:
> On Aug 12, 1:16*pm, "Dad" > wrote:

> > Careful, you're going to overload his thinking. Not much respect for
> > someone that advocates disabling the o2 sensor. If you remember he's
> > the one that berated this group for ever contemplating a speed over 55
> > and threatened to dive in front of faster traffic in the left lane at
> > 55 MPH.
> > Messing with Federal exhaust mandates is not something legitimate
> > shops will do, to expensive and lost work from jail time can result.
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> > Dad - I can't drive 55 - well maybe in the driveway
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> REPLY: You lied about me threatening going 55 mph in the left lane .
> Your other assertions regarding DynoTuning are false too and youre
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More lies and dave****
I remember well the thread where you said you'll drive the posted
speed limit in the fast lane just to prove that you're a total asshole

Talk about someone who's whole fully ignorant?
The same moron who falls for every Snake Oil scam imaginable

You've always done an excellent job of defaming yourself, so there's
no need for others to join in.

Here in Calif if you're caught illegally modifying or having disabled
your emissions system it's anywhere from a $1500 to $10,000 fine plus
they keep your wheels.
Some fines are PER DAY

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On Aug 12, 1:16 pm, "Dad" > wrote:
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>REPLY: You lied about me threatening going 55 mph in the left lane .
>Your other assertions regarding DynoTuning are false too and youre
>using willful ignorance in an attempt to defame .

No problem reposting the thread where you stated you would block
drivers that exceeded 55 MPH, which one of your aliases did you use?

















































Call me a liar one more time and I'll have to let Vinnie in NJ know
it's time he gave you a visit.



As far as dyno tuning there is as I said a good reason for it but not
what you imply/state. There are very few people that have undeniable
proof that a tune has ever saved 2-3 MPG or run smoother. There is
also few that can show a HP gain in a driveable RPM range. I see as
always you don't backup your claims with any proof like a post of your
actual dyno tune to show what it did for your car, 1G1YY25U865105540.

On Aug 14, 10:15*am, "Dad" > wrote:
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> On Aug 12, 12:27 pm, "'Key" > wrote:
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> > Sounds like an awesome car overall. Id consider getting it
> > DynoTuned which will include optimizing air/fuel ratios ,
> > eliminating
> > 1-4 shift, disable o2 sensor so you can update the exhaust
> > if you
> > like, have the radiator fan start ramping up sooner (and
> > max. speed
> > sooner) for a cooler running motor , as well as a few other
> > goodies.
> > I had my 2006 C6 done recently and its smoother running and
> > more
> > responsive. I suspect fuel mileage will increase also.
> > ==========
> > reply
>
> > the New Z06 doesn't need an exhaust mod.
>
> > its not like your 06-C6
>
> > my2¢
> > --
> > 'Key
> > =====
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> *REPLY: *Headers improves the Z06 as well as a DynoTune. Go to
> *corvetteforum.com * . If the OP wants to keep it stock then thats his
> *perogative but theres advantages to be had from a performance,
> *efficiency, *and motor longevity standpoint *; *more than how the GM
> *Engineers designed any car including the Z06.
>
> Any engine tuned to operate in a given environment will do better but
> what you are implying is not true. The headers help when? Is the RPM
> that the headers become beneficial anywhere near where it can be
> driven on the street?
>
> Corvette owners put things on and in their Corvette because they feel
> it makes them different from the Corvette in the next lane at a stop
> light. In most cases it has some truth to it, like they have spent
> more money to drive it. Most of the modifications short of major
> surgery on the engine does little good for the Corvette and few with
> the radical surgery go back on the street. That was not true only a
> few years back but with the advent of computer design and function
> control it is so small as to be stupid to go after that .2 HP gain.
>
> If you're on Corvette Forum as you imply then you saw the header
> "Here's why no mods are needed on the ZR1" and it is nearly the same
> for the Z06. Read what Hib Halverson has to say about it. By the way
> he does mention another forum I belong to that I read and contribute
> to on a regular basis. As you can see that one started a he said, she
> said debate that says you get major HP only one way, major changes,
> not mini mods.
>
> Most of what you are saying is a repeat of the people selling their
> gismos and snake oil. I'll repeat that a good tune is a benefit, it
> will/can smooth out the manufacturing lumps in the computer control,
> that's all. Will you see/feel an advantage, maybe, but since you spent
> the bucks you sure won't admit it was a flop and most likely will use
> it as a bragging right either way.
>
> What was your HP gain when you had your dyno tune or did you get a
> copy of the runs they made? Post a picture, plenty of free sites to
> load one.
>
> Once again I state that disabling the o2 sensor is illegal and should
> not be done as dave suggests.- Hide quoted text -
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REPLY: We arent discussing the new ZR1 now are we ? We are
discussing the OP's car he bought. And yes, Headers will benefit his
car versus factory exhaust manifolds . Why dont you go to
corvetteforum.com and see what owners are reporting from various mods
theyve made to their ZO6 before making rediculous assertions of '.2
h.p. gain' and other uninformed rhetoric. Further, the Dyno Tuners
dont 'disable the 02 sensor' , for, that wouldnt make the car run
correctly -- the O2 sensor is a vital and necessary function of the
Computer . ; they allow it to operate but disable the DIC light from
coming on. Theres no reason for you to be uninformed when it comes to
DynoTuning. Please stop making absurd statements and spend time at
corvetteforum.com so you can come up to speed on this very important
and useful aftermarket Service. (Dont go and make me bring your Kin-
folk into this Dad...Im warning you ! ...lol....)

On Aug 14, 12:18*pm, "Dad" > wrote:
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> >REPLY: You lied about me threatening going 55 mph in the left lane .
> >Your other assertions regarding DynoTuning are false too and youre
> >using willful ignorance in an attempt to defame .
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> what you imply/state. There are very few people that have undeniable
> proof that a tune has ever saved 2-3 MPG or run smoother. There is
> also few that can show a HP gain in a driveable RPM range. I see as
> always you don't backup your claims with any proof like a post of your
> actual dyno tune to show what it did for your car, 1G1YY25U865105540.

REPLY: Vinnie with the crooked nose !? I talked to him recently
about you in fact ! He said hes tied up now but hed send his
Cousin , Rocko, to customize one of your Corvettes free of
charge. As with any reputable DynoShop, they gave me an actual
printout of the DynoPull showing that the mods i made (headers, 3"
exhaust, x crossover, 160 f. stat, with tuning)...yielded 42 rwhp and
45 rwtq over a stock 2006 C6 MN6 . While the added h.p. and tq is at
the upper end of the rpm scale, theres some still in the midrange .
Plus, I have a smoother running engine from the air/fuel optimizing/a
cooler running motor that doesnt run as high as 218 f. any longer,
elimination of 1-4 shift skip light/02 light . Im not going to post
the Dyno Printout for you because youre an inherent nasty person .
Best regards.

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On Aug 14, 12:18 pm, "Dad" > wrote:
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>REPLY: Vinnie with the crooked nose !? I talked to him recently
>about you in fact ! He said hes tied up now but hed send his
>Cousin , Rocko, to customize one of your Corvettes free of
>charge. As with any reputable DynoShop, they gave me an actual
>printout of the DynoPull showing that the mods i made (headers, 3"
>exhaust, x crossover, 160 f. stat, with tuning)...yielded 42 rwhp
>and
>45 rwtq over a stock 2006 C6 MN6 . While the added h.p. and tq is at
>the upper end of the rpm scale, theres some still in the midrange .
>Plus, I have a smoother running engine from the air/fuel optimizing/a
>cooler running motor that doesnt run as high as 218 f. any longer,
>elimination of 1-4 shift skip light/02 light . Im not going to post
>the Dyno Printout for you because youre an inherent nasty person .
>Best regards.

Actually Vinnie's cousin , the cop, died so you didn't talk to him,
and his name wasn't Rocko. Yes, he is real and not made up like your
blather to look cute and deflect from the subject at hand.

So you still don't show what a dyno tune adds for HP gain, or anything
else for that matter. You do state with all of "your mods" that a
mythical dyno tune shows the mods added some HP and TQ. All that
exhaust flow increase without an induction mod? My statement stands,
if you can read and understand it, you don't gain allot, if any, HP or
TQ with a dyno tune without the addition of hard changes in the engine
or how it is dressed.

You're not going to post it because you don't have it. I would love to
see a tuner sheet that is killing the o2 light to get around the law.

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On Aug 12, 1:16 pm, "Dad" > wrote:
> "'Key" > wrote in message
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> > Sounds like an awesome car overall. Id consider getting
> > it
> > DynoTuned which will include optimizing air/fuel ratios
> > ,
> > eliminating
> > 1-4 shift, disable o2 sensor so you can update the
> > exhaust if you
> > like, have the radiator fan start ramping up sooner (and
> > max. speed
> > sooner) for a cooler running motor , as well as a few
> > other goodies.
> > I had my 2006 C6 done recently and its smoother running
> > and more
> > responsive. I suspect fuel mileage will increase also.
> > ==========
> > reply
>
> > the New Z06 doesn't need an exhaust mod.
>
> > its not like your 06-C6
>
> > my2¢
> > --
> > 'Key
> > =====
>
> Careful, you're going to overload his thinking. Not much
> respect for
> someone that advocates disabling the o2 sensor. If you
> remember he's
> the one that berated this group for ever contemplating a
> speed over 55
> and threatened to dive in front of faster traffic in the
> left lane at
> 55 MPH. Never under estimate the value of a dyno tune but
> the first
> one should come from the dealer and if he can't do it,
> find another
> dealer. Good record to have and can find an early problem
> that can be
> overlooked by the new car smell, so to speak.
>
> Plus there is little evidence that running it cooler does
> anything for
> performance let alone gas mileage. Also very doubtful he
> had his dyno
> tuned and has any proof it runs smoother or has any
> horsepower gain,
> response. If he had he would have said he got 19 more
> horses by the
> tune, or .2 which may be closer.... The biggest advantage
> of a dyno
> tune is bragging rights or a base to work from for future
> problems.
> Messing with Federal exhaust mandates is not something
> legitimate
> shops will do, to expensive and lost work from jail time
> can result.
>
> --
> Dad - I can't drive 55 - well maybe in the driveway
> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
> 64 Red/red/white top/4spd Prize winner at all but 1 show
> this year
> ;-)- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

REPLY: You lied about me threatening going 55 mph in the
left lane .
Your other assertions regarding DynoTuning are false too and
youre
using willful ignorance in an attempt to defame .
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MY REPLY:
uhh?
Dad has probably forgotten more about vettes then most
around here even know.
I believe I'll will stick with his EXPERT advice...

my2¢
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'Key
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On Aug 14, 12:18 pm, "Dad" > wrote:
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> >REPLY: You lied about me threatening going 55 mph in the
> >left lane .
> >Your other assertions regarding DynoTuning are false too
> >and youre
> >using willful ignorance in an attempt to defame .
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> No problem reposting the thread where you stated you would
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> in NJ know
> it's time he gave you a visit.
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> As far as dyno tuning there is as I said a good reason for
> it but not
> what you imply/state. There are very few people that have
> undeniable
> proof that a tune has ever saved 2-3 MPG or run smoother.
> There is
> also few that can show a HP gain in a driveable RPM range.
> I see as
> always you don't backup your claims with any proof like a
> post of your
> actual dyno tune to show what it did for your car,
> 1G1YY25U865105540.

REPLY:
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Im not going to post
the Dyno Printout for you because youre an inherent nasty
person .
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MY REPLY:
enough of your BS,
we all know who is right and who is wrong.

you're not going to post the Dyno Printout
because you don't have it.


my2¢
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'Key
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