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High RPM Idle after Timing Belt Change
After changing the timing belt on a 2.5L V6 SOHC engine (1997 Chrysler
Sebring Convertible) the engine starts but immediately goes to a redline fast rpm. I don't know where the engine can get the air to run that fast. I have capped off all the vacuum lines including the power brake vacuum, the one hooked to the PCV valve and duct taped the EGR intake on the upper intake manifold (plenum). I capped the throttle body intake with a aerosol can cap and duct tape; thus no air can go thru the throttle or thru the air bypass passage. Upper and lower intake manifold gaskets have been replaced. The intake manifolds appear to be flat and should seal with new gaskets. The washers around the fuel injectors are in place. Do I have a magic engine that runs without air? If I got the timing belt off 1 or 2 teeth, can air backflow thru the exhaust? Can a valve be stuck open? If I disconnect the MAP sensor and the temperature sensor for the intake manifold, the engine will not start. I would assume the computer won't open the fuel injectors without these sensors. I changed sparkplugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor at the same time. I screwed up and cross plugged 2 wires. The car actually ran with the crossed up spark plug wires and would go highway speed but was weak on power and the check engine light would flash on and off. At idle I could hear a sound that seemed as if gas was ignited in the exhaust system. The sound was more off a swoosh than a bang. The high rpm idle problem started after I corrected the cross spark plug wire problem. Any ideas? |
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High RPM Idle after Timing Belt Change
could be the IAC....but should run just like it did before changing timing belt....good luck... -- Scrapper ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scrapper's Profile: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...?userid=438443 View this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=665105 http://www.automotiveforums.com |
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High RPM Idle after Timing Belt Change
Mark3571 wrote: > After changing the timing belt on a 2.5L V6 SOHC engine (1997 Chrysler > Sebring Convertible) the engine starts but immediately goes to a > redline fast rpm. I don't know where the engine can get the air to run > that fast. I have capped off all the vacuum lines including the power > brake vacuum, the one hooked to the PCV valve and duct taped the EGR > intake on the upper intake manifold (plenum). I capped the throttle > body intake with a aerosol can cap and duct tape; thus no air can go > thru the throttle or thru the air bypass passage. Upper and lower > intake manifold gaskets have been replaced. The intake manifolds > appear to be flat and should seal with new gaskets. The washers around > the fuel injectors are in place. Do I have a magic engine that runs > without air? > > If I got the timing belt off 1 or 2 teeth, can air backflow thru the > exhaust? > > Can a valve be stuck open? > > If I disconnect the MAP sensor and the temperature sensor for the > intake manifold, the engine will not start. I would assume the > computer won't open the fuel injectors without these sensors. > > I changed sparkplugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor at the same > time. I screwed up and cross plugged 2 wires. The car actually ran > with the crossed up spark plug wires and would go highway speed but was > weak on power and the check engine light would flash on and off. At > idle I could hear a sound that seemed as if gas was ignited in the > exhaust system. The sound was more off a swoosh than a bang. The high > rpm idle problem started after I corrected the cross spark plug wire > problem. > > Any ideas? I don't have a magic engine. The leak was thru the upper intake manifold to lower intake manifold gasket. Both manifolds appeared flat without any scratches or old gasket material. Liberal use of high temp, sensitive safe RTV cured the problem. In hind sight I realize I had a small leak before as the idle was too rough. Once I fixed the leak the car would not idle with out holding the throttle open. After a few minutes it would idle again. I think the computer had to relearn the correct idle air position. The air bypass passage was probably closed due to the previous leak and had to relearn that it needed to open some in order to idle. The engine runs good now. If only that transmission ran as well. After 170,000 miles I guess I shouldn't expect it to be perfectly smooth. Mark |
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High RPM Idle after Timing Belt Change
Thanks for the reply Scrapper.
At first I thought it could be the IAC, but I blocked off the whole throttle body intake including the IAC bypass passage with duct tape and a aerosol can cap. I didn't see how any air could get by that inlet. This helped me eventually identify the gasket as the leak. Mark |
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