SAE Horsepower Standards To Change

Joe wrote:
> "WindsorFox[SS]" > wrote in
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>
>>Joe wrote:
>>
>>>Nonsense. When it comes to towing, the Cummins will eat the gas
>>>Ford for breakfast.
>>>
>>>And the guys dissing the Hemi apparently aren't doing their
>>>homework.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, right. Here's some home work for you. Look and see if the
>> new
>>Hemi is a *real* hemi. I know for a fact that my "305" HP V8 is
>>faster and stronger.
>
>
> WF, stop whining. It's annoying.

I should have expected a wuss answer from a wuss....

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"Gullible is a misdemeanor - stupid is a felony...
clueless gets you committed..." - JG

Big Al wrote:
> Run down to the nearest Dodge dealer and look up the towing specs for the
> SRT-10. Let us know what you find.
>
> Al
>
>

Heh, I don't think the point behind the SRT10 Ram is towing
capability like Ford's V10 is.

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"Gullible is a misdemeanor - stupid is a felony...
clueless gets you committed..." - JG

Joe wrote:

> If you want power and torque, pay attention:
> http://www.dodge.com/srt-10/
> Class dismissed.

Yeah, right. I want to see track times and Dyno numbers from a 100%
stock SRT 10. I bet they're carrying 50 or more of those horse in the
bed or behind the seat....


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"Gullible is a misdemeanor - stupid is a felony...
clueless gets you committed..." - JG

ROFL!! There's no wonder you'll never see one of these at the
track, or even on the road most likely....

2005 SRT10 QUAD CAB S Pkg. Net MSRP $53,720

Maybe if I won the Powerball. Maybe...

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"Gullible is a misdemeanor - stupid is a felony...
clueless gets you committed..." - JG

"WindsorFox[SS]" > wrote in news:r4AIe.625
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> Joe wrote:
>> "WindsorFox[SS]" > wrote in
>> news:NUyIe.615$ah4.267@lakeread05:
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>>
>>>Joe wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nonsense. When it comes to towing, the Cummins will eat the gas
>>>>Ford for breakfast.
>>>>
>>>>And the guys dissing the Hemi apparently aren't doing their
>>>>homework.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, right. Here's some home work for you. Look and see if
the
>>> new
>>>Hemi is a *real* hemi. I know for a fact that my "305" HP V8 is
>>>faster and stronger.
>>
>>
>> WF, stop whining. It's annoying.
>
> I should have expected a wuss answer from a wuss....

At least I change my oil... LOL!

"WindsorFox[SS]" > wrote in news:5tAIe.634
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> ROFL!! There's no wonder you'll never see one of these at the
> track, or even on the road most likely....

Don't get out much, eh? Or are there only Chebbie-drivin' rednecks in
your part of the woods?

> 2005 SRT10 QUAD CAB S Pkg. Net MSRP $53,720
>
> Maybe if I won the Powerball. Maybe...

Ya get what ya pay for.

"WindsorFox[SS]" > wrote in message
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> Big Al wrote:
>> "351CJ" > wrote in message
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>>>If you want the best trailer puller there is only one choice.
>>>
>>>The F-250, with the gas V-10 and towing a 10,800-pound trailer, was more
>>>than two truck lengths ahead of the Chevy Silverado 2500 at the end of
>>>the quarter-mile. The Dodge Ram 2500 Hem was more than five back.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for proving my point. A 10 cylinder Ford vs. a Hemi. Some fair
>> test! How about an older 10 cylinder Dodge and a 5.4L Ford? Will a new 10
>> cylinder Ford out pull a new 8.1L Chevy?
>>
>> Al
>
> Careflu with that Chevy, you know, their frame is a little on the
> fragile side compared to the real trucks... P

Please point me to an honest test of some full size trucks. I don't care
what engines are in them if the test is fair. All I was trying to get across
is all the test I see are slanted. If you know where there is a test of a
new Ford 10 cylinder vs. a GM 8.1L, and any other truck they want to throw
in, I'd love to see it.

Looked for a long time for a 10 cyl. Ford or an 8.1 Chevy/GMC with a six
speed manual and finally just gave up. But I decided then the Ford was not
going to be my first choice and no way was I going to buy a Hemi with a five
speed. Loved the Ford truck but was hearing so many bad things about the
5.4L and 10 cyl. engines. Already have a 360, five speed 4X4 Dodge and was
after something better for towing. Ended up with a six speed, 4X4 CTD.

Al

Big Al wrote:

> Looked for a long time for a 10 cyl. Ford or an 8.1 Chevy/GMC with a six
> speed manual and finally just gave up.

Check the glove box, that's where they usually put them. Also, the
shifter knob sometimes has the pattern on it.

I am really cracking myself up today!!!

180 Out

Big Al wrote:

>
> Please point me to an honest test of some full size trucks. I don't care
> what engines are in them if the test is fair. All I was trying to get across
> is all the test I see are slanted. If you know where there is a test of a
> new Ford 10 cylinder vs. a GM 8.1L, and any other truck they want to throw
> in, I'd love to see it.
>

I don't get any truck magazines so I have seen few actual tests. The
only one I've seen recently is on the Internet, but it's spnsored by
Ford so it is a bit slanted too. Even though there is some good info and
it shows that the Chevy has the daintiest frame of all the full size
trucks with Toyota's semi-fullsize in number 2. Dodge Ford and Nissan
all have fully enclosed steel box frames.

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"Gullible is a misdemeanor - stupid is a felony...
clueless gets you committed..." - JG

Are you as damn stupid as your posts indicate?
You better reread all the posts, if that doesn't work get someone else to
explain it to you, and get back to me when you have figured out how to
follow along!!!

Geese, you are so pathetic it is beyond funny. :-(


I'm sure I will regret confusing you further, but, out of curiosity, how
would you propose comparing towing prowess? DUH!



"Joe" > wrote in message
.. .
> "351CJ" > wrote in news:1zjIe.44790$S%5.23268@trnddc06:
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>> Reading comprehension not your strong point, Joe?
>
> LOL! I'd talk if I were you, Bucky.
>
>> The was no comparison of the Dodge Diesel against the Ford Gas
>> engine. The two comparisons were between the big 3's
>> 1. gas engines
>> and then their
>> 2. diesel engines
>
> If you scroll down a bit, you'll see that my comment was about towing,
> which was in response to the claim about the "best trailer puller
> there is". After your brilliant comments, I know it's a stretch for
> you to comprehend that, so no offense taken.
>
>> The 2005 Cummins will NOT eat the 2005 Power Stroke Ford Diesel for
>> breakfast! As a matter of fact, the only thing it does eat is the
>> Fords exhaust...
>
> Well, considering that I never compared the Cummins to the Power
> Stroke, you might want to apply your first comment to yourself.
>
>> I've yet to find a Cummins that can out pull or out run my 2005
>> power stroke diesel.
>
> Guess you didn't look beyond your back yard.
>
>> The Cummins is an outstanding industrial engine, but it has nothing
>> performance wise over Ford (International) and GM's (Isuzu) current
>> pickup diesel engine offerings. I'll gladly drag race you in your
>> Cummins powered pickup empty or pulling a trailer up a hill, with my
>> 2005 Power Stroke Diesel Ford, and set you straight on your nonsense
>> versus reality confusion.
>
> Sorry, I'm not interested in drag racing you in the least. And I
> don't have a Cummins-powered pickup. Where'd you get the idea I did?
>
>> As for the so called new Hemi, as much as you might be caught up in
>> the name nostalgia, the fact remains the new small block "Hemi" is
>> undersized and under powered for the 3/4-ton/1-ton truck
>> application, as is the 5.4 liter Ford. It's not my fault the
>> Germans currently running Daimler Chrysler can't understand that
>> they need a gas engine with more torque for this application.
>
> The Hemi is a wonderful engine, and it's got both more horsepower and
> torque than any gas Triton.
>
> Now go back to your daydream, and have a nice day.
>
>
>> "Joe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Nonsense. When it comes to towing, the Cummins will eat the gas
>>> Ford for breakfast.
>>>
>>> And the guys dissing the Hemi apparently aren't doing their
>>> homework.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
>>> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC
>>>
>>>
>>> "351CJ" > wrote in
>>> news:mDdIe.12662$Bx5.1381@trnddc09:
>>>
>>>> If you want the best trailer puller there is only one choice.
>>>>
>>>> The F-250, with the gas V-10 and towing a 10,800-pound trailer,
>>>> was more than two truck lengths ahead of the Chevy Silverado 2500
>>>> at the end of the quarter-mile. The Dodge Ram 2500 Hem was more
>>>> than five back.
>>>>
>>>> Similar results came when we ran the F-350 dually, powered by the
>>>> upgraded Power Stroke, against the Ram with the high-output
>>>> Cummins and the Duramax-powered GMC. The trucks were towing
>>>> identical 13,400-pound trailers.
>>>>
>>>> The Ford, although slow out of the gate, reigned in the Dodge and
>>>> Chevy within a few hundred yards. It continued to pull away
>>>> through the end of the ¼-mile, besting the Dodge Cummins by two
>>>> truck lengths and the Chevy by a good eight. The Ford Power Stroke
>>>> and five-speed automatic really shine once the load gets rolling.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.truckworld.com/Truck-Test...per_duty/05_f-
>>> supe
>>>> rduty.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Big Al" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>I think it would be neat so see a real world test of the big
>>>>>three's trucks. All the tests I see are so bogus. Ever read the
>>>>>tests in a dirt bike magazine? We need them to test trucks
>>>>>
>>>>> Some guys out here had a bulldozer on a trailer and they timed a
>>>>> Powerstroke Ford, a Dodge and a FTR Isuzu all pulling it up a
>>>>> long hill. The Isuzu ran away with it. I think they are about 200
>>>>> horsepower. The Dodge beat the Ford, but not by much. This was a
>>>>> few years back. They couldn't find anyone willing to try with a
>>>>> Chevy. The only problem is this was no where near an accurate
>>>>> test of anything except these particular trucks. I'd like to see
>>>>> trucks with the same exact load in the bed, say 2,000 pounds,
>>>>> accelerate, stop and handle. Then add a heavy trailer and do some
>>>>> more testing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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