2005 Miata MAZDASPEED

wrote in:

> Thanks for the reply.
>
> If I was to go the used route...what models are best for doing a bolt
> on supercharger? A co-worker just bought a red '99 for about $9K...that
> sounded like a good price...about 60K miles, and in almost mint
> condition.
>
> Also, what are the best bang for the buck superchargers? Are they close
> to being 'bolt on' setups...I'm a mechanical noob...but, have friends
> that are fairly gear-headed...and would really like to learn to do this
> myself...

http://www.flyinmiata.com/news/ubercharger.php

http://www.miatamania.com/Browse/Pla...logID=14&Plate
TypeID=1&SubcomponentID=112

http://store.miataparts.org/vfenmisu.html

There's quite a bit of information and if you're interested in one or the
other, give them a call and ask for details. You might ask if they'll send
you a copy of the installation instructions which will tell you if it's
something you can do yourself or if you'll need help.

Or, if you're REALLY in a hurry, just stick with the non-supercharged car and
do this little modification:

http://www.diamondmotorsport.com/greenmiatas.htm

Lanny Chambers > wrote:

>Here's the Flyin' Miata MSM page:
>http://www.flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php

I am surprised that he seems to be willing to make special
parts for the MSM and even bought his own MSM for it.
Obviously the potential market will be very small and
impossible to grow.

Leon

--
Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
http://www.dommelen.net/miata
EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

In article >,
(Leon van Dommelen) wrote:

> I am surprised that he seems to be willing to make special
> parts for the MSM and even bought his own MSM for it.
> Obviously the potential market will be very small and
> impossible to grow.

Mazda made thousands of MSMs, and every one of them is a potential
customer, if not now then later. People bought them for the additional
power, and power is addicting, so they'll soon want even more. FM's own
MSM is the car they recently entered in the Car & Driver SuperFour
Challenge. SInce the rules mandated pump gas, it was detuned to "only"
350 rwhp at 14 psi. It was also the only entrant driven, not trailered,
to the competition--western Colorado to eastern Michigan and back..

Bill Cardell is a very smart guy, and has been in business for a long
time. I'm sure his prices reflect the size of the market relative to the
development costs.

---
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

In article >,
XS11E > wrote:

> There's quite a bit of information and if you're interested in one or the
> other, give them a call and ask for details. You might ask if they'll send
> you a copy of the installation instructions which will tell you if it's
> something you can do yourself or if you'll need help.

FM offers its instructions online:
http://www.flyinmiata.com/support/index.php

---
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

In article .com>,
wrote:

> Please excuse a noob question....what does it mean when they say the
> turbo mazda gets 'heatsoaked' quickly....and what happens when it does,
> and can something be done to prevent this?

It accumulates heat faster than it can get rid of it, and the system
stabilizes at a temperature much higher than optimum. All turbos get
hot--they're spun by exhaust gases right out of the ports--and without
an adequate intercooler will pass the heated intake charge into the
cylinders, where it promotes detonation and limits power. The answer is
a larger and more efficient intercooler. Which FM sells.

---
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Lanny Chambers > wrote:

>In article .com>,
> wrote:
>
>> Please excuse a noob question....what does it mean when they say the
>> turbo mazda gets 'heatsoaked' quickly....and what happens when it does,
>> and can something be done to prevent this?
>
>It accumulates heat faster than it can get rid of it, and the system
>stabilizes at a temperature much higher than optimum. All turbos get
>hot--they're spun by exhaust gases right out of the ports

Actually, the work taken out by the compressor removes heat from
the exhaust gasses.

>--and without
>an adequate intercooler will pass the heated intake charge into the
>cylinders,

The intake charge goes past the compressor, not the turbine. It is heated by
compression, not the exhaust air. Typical belt driven superchargers like JR
heat the intake air more than turbos, given the same compression ratio, since
the Roots pumps are less efficient than the typical compressors of turbos.
IIRC, that may not be true for the Whipple SC.

> where it promotes detonation and limits power. The answer is
>a larger and more efficient intercooler. Which FM sells.

And needs because of the large compression ratio of FM turbos.

Leon

>---
>Lanny Chambers
>'94C, St. Louis
>http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

--
Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
http://www.dommelen.net/miata
EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

XS11E > wrote:

wrote in:
>
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> If I was to go the used route...what models are best for doing a bolt
>> on supercharger? A co-worker just bought a red '99 for about $9K...that
>> sounded like a good price...about 60K miles, and in almost mint
>> condition.
>>
>> Also, what are the best bang for the buck superchargers? Are they close
>> to being 'bolt on' setups...I'm a mechanical noob...but, have friends
>> that are fairly gear-headed...and would really like to learn to do this
>> myself...
>
>http://www.flyinmiata.com/news/ubercharger.php
>
>http://www.miatamania.com/Browse/Pla...logID=14&Plate
>TypeID=1&SubcomponentID=112
>
>http://store.miataparts.org/vfenmisu.html
>
>There's quite a bit of information and if you're interested in one or the
>other, give them a call and ask for details. You might ask if they'll send
>you a copy of the installation instructions which will tell you if it's
>something you can do yourself or if you'll need help.

You cannot tell whether you can do something from the instructions. You only
find that out when you actually try to get wrenches on bolts, try to fit parts,
cut, bend, etcetera.

However, I agree that in some cases it is possible from the instructions alone
to see that it is something you *cannot* do.

Leon


>Or, if you're REALLY in a hurry, just stick with the non-supercharged car and
>do this little modification:
>
>http://www.diamondmotorsport.com/greenmiatas.htm

--
Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
http://www.dommelen.net/miata
EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)