On Feb 24, 5:56*pm, D. LaCourse > wrote:
> On 2011-02-24 18:01:59 -0500, AD > said:
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> > On Feb 23, 3:43 am, laurentien > wrote:
> >> On Feb 22, 4:33 pm, D. LaCourse > wrote:
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> >>> On 2011-02-18 04:23:25 -0500, laurentien > said:
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> >>>> Dear folks,
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> >>>> yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Aud
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> >>>> dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars.
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> >>>> Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as
> >>>> it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two car
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> >>>> are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4
> >>>> and A6 cars.
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> >>>> They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and
> >>>> this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit
> >>>> on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window
> >>>> even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb
> >>>> in and out of the car.
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> >>>> I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A
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> >>>> roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back.
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> >>>> Bests
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> >>>> LHR
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> >>> They were designed as coupes (even though the A7 is a four door). Lo
> > ok
> >>> at MB's E-class coupe and the CLS four-door coupe. They weren't
> >>> designed to carry people for back seat passengers on long trips. The
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> >>> is no "design errors".
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> >>> Dave
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> >> I have to disagree there.
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> >> I am sorry to say that I do not necessarily consider these MB cars
> >> very well designed.
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> > Where I'm from MB rust through from road chemicals just about as the
> > cheap frankoitalian
> > trash that is abundant in that neck of woods. A friend got a 2001
> > entry level luxury
> > hatch from alfa romeo & co: spent $1000 in repairs in no time at all
> > and is cursing
> > his decision every time he spins his perf winter rubber on snow and
> > ice:
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> > front wheel drivers are pure trash imho. If it was not for quattro i
> > would've gotten
> > a beemer any day over audi.
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> >> I know a lot of coupes out there made to carry tall people in the
> >> back,
> >> remember the Audi Coupe ?
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> >> It could fit two large adults in excellent seats at the back.
> >> Peugeot has its 406 and 407 coupes able to carry people in the back,
> >> otherwise, they should call these car 2+2.
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> >> Then, I like to buy five door versions of cars being more practical
> >> and having a nice shape,
> >> like the Citroen C5 for example. But they have to be able to fit four
> >> tall adults.
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> > Yeah, you need to buy that french bucket of bolts to appreciate the
> > german engineering.
> > Assuming you have enough patience to disassemble half the car when you
> > need to change
> > headlight or taillight bulbs that contraption will rust through in 5
> > years and maybe by
> > then you'd take another look at the durable goods from germany.
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> Hmmmm. *The MBs and Audis exported to the U.S. must be different. *I
> have owned Quattros since 1984 and have never had an issue with rust. *
> On the contrary, they outlast any of the American crap that is on the
> road, and I lived all those years in New England where the roads are
> treated with salt and other chems in the winter months. *MB is the
> same. *Never heard of a rust problem.
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Well, its local specifics I guess: the place I'm from used to have
inexpensive auto repair
hourly rates, consequently, all the totalled crap from western europe
was brought
over cause it was cheap. So those rusted E late model benzes i've seen
could've been in accidents
and repaired.

I haven't seen rusted late model audis but i might not have been
looking close enough.
My body shop guy tells me if it was in an accident audi or not - it
will rust.

It could be also an issue of a demand: benzes and beemers command a
much higher
price in that secondary market while audi is not selling for insane
prices.
Hence the lesser pressure on importers to bring junk with rings on the
hood might be at play.

Anyhow, the import tariffs are about to change and germans would have
to sell their totalled
cars to japs and chinese for scrap prices I guess. Can't wait to see
german scrap yards baloon.