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Old January 15th 08, 05:43 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Elle
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Default Honda Civic 1999, P0135, Oxygen Sensor Change, D16Y7 --- The Story ....

Hi Mike, what I recall from posts here is that (1) the Bosch
O2 sensors seem not to send a very good signal to the ECU,
ultimately seeming to throw off fuel efficiency; and (2) the
Bosch's fail sooner. Re "planar O2 sensors," you know as
much or more than I on them, and I would be googling.

From reading here and my general reflections, I think it's
okay to just wait until the Bosch dies, assuming the car
seems to run fine, which you say yours does. Worrying about
say, the effects on the Cat Converter seems overboard. But
I'd go OEM next time for sure, especially since you can get
one pretty cheap from the Auto Medic source.

Bear in mind I am a cheapskate. In my adult life I have
typically started by buying the cheap stuff. Some works
fine. Others support the adage, "You get what you pay for."

So where I now go OEM for my 91 Civic:
--All electrical ignition parts (plugs, wires, dizzy cap and
rotor, igniter, coil). Believe me, I have used non-OEM with
all these except maybe the plugs, and the lifetimes and
performance were worse.
--Timing belt replacement parts (belt, water pump,
tensioner, crank and cam shaft seals)
--Alternators (but would go with rebuilt OEM ones, assuming
a brush replacement did not work)
--Most anything electrical, especially the O2 sensor

Non-OEM:
--Air filter
--Fuel filter
--Anti-freeeze (will only use orange Havoline though)
--Radiator, from reading here, aftermarket appears to be
fine
--Alternator and power steering belts (dunno if non-OEM is
wise, but so far, so good)

"hobbes" > wrote
On Jan 12, 1:17 pm, "Elle"
> wrote:
> Bosch O2 sensors are bad Jujubes, grasshopper.
>
> OEM Denso is available for around $70 total for your Civic
> athttps://www.automedicsupply.com
>
> "hobbes" > wrote
>
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> > The oxygen sensor I got hold of was a Bosch- Hide quoted
> > text -

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Hi Elle,

Thanks for the tip. I have been driving around for a while
now with
the Bosch one. It seems O.K. ... then again I am not that
much of a
car expert. I think my one is the Planar Oxygen sensor type.

Just as a matter of interest, what are the main advantages
of the
Denso o2 sensors when compared with Bosch? Are there big
differences.
Maybe when the Bosch breaks I will get a Denso next time
around. Is
the Denso also a Planar type?

Best, Mike.


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