>> And some of us knew this in 2001 but were ritually abused and ridiculed
>> by all and sundry.
>> Ellison, Simmons...etc.
> ...and you'd have bet your life on it! Yeah, right. <ROLLS EYES>

It wasn't a life or death issue. It was something that seriously ****ed me
off at the time tho.
There were lots of "<ROLLS EYES>" when I suggested all the West's *self
made* hype and propaganda was nothing but hot air.
I don't recall you being around then either. Perhaps you're Simmons in
disguise.