On 2011-02-24 18:01:59 -0500, AD > said:

> On Feb 23, 3:43*am, laurentien > wrote:
>> On Feb 22, 4:33*pm, D. LaCourse > wrote:
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>>> On 2011-02-18 04:23:25 -0500, laurentien > said:
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>>>> Dear folks,
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>>>> yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Aud
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>>>> dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars.
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>>>> Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as
>>>> it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two car
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>>>> are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4
>>>> and A6 cars.
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>>>> They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and
>>>> this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit
>>>> on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window
>>>> even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb
>>>> in and out of the car.
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>>>> I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A
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>>>> Bests
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>>>> LHR
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>>> They were designed as coupes (even though the A7 is a four door). *Lo
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>>> at MB's E-class coupe and the CLS four-door coupe. *They weren't *
>>> designed to carry people for back seat passengers on long trips. *The
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>>> is no "design errors".
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>>> Dave
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>> I have to disagree there.
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>> I am sorry to say that I do not necessarily consider these MB cars
>> very well designed.
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> Where I'm from MB rust through from road chemicals just about as the
> cheap frankoitalian
> trash that is abundant in that neck of woods. A friend got a 2001
> entry level luxury
> hatch from alfa romeo & co: spent $1000 in repairs in no time at all
> and is cursing
> his decision every time he spins his perf winter rubber on snow and
> ice:
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> front wheel drivers are pure trash imho. If it was not for quattro i
> would've gotten
> a beemer any day over audi.
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>> I know a lot of coupes out there made to carry tall people in the
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>> remember the Audi Coupe ?
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>> It could fit two large adults in excellent seats at the back.
>> Peugeot has its 406 and 407 coupes able to carry people in the back,
>> otherwise, they should call these car 2+2.
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>> Then, I like to buy five door versions of cars being more practical
>> and having a nice shape,
>> like the Citroen C5 for example. But they have to be able to fit four
>> tall adults.
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> Yeah, you need to buy that french bucket of bolts to appreciate the
> german engineering.
> Assuming you have enough patience to disassemble half the car when you
> need to change
> headlight or taillight bulbs that contraption will rust through in 5
> years and maybe by
> then you'd take another look at the durable goods from germany.

Hmmmm. The MBs and Audis exported to the U.S. must be different. I
have owned Quattros since 1984 and have never had an issue with rust.
On the contrary, they outlast any of the American crap that is on the
road, and I lived all those years in New England where the roads are
treated with salt and other chems in the winter months. MB is the
same. Never heard of a rust problem.

Dave