Rather a useful idiot than a murderous one mate.

"Randy Magruder" > wrote in message
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> Sorry dude, as of yesterday, I'm done with this useless discussion.
> I'm staying on sims from today on. If you want to keep believing the
> tripe that you do, go right ahead, it's always amusing to watch 'useful
> idiots' work themselves into a lather for the 'cause'.
>
> Randy
>
>
> alex martini wrote:
>
>> So, in America, it is your claim that you believe that,
>> (a) you didn't go to war over WMD
>> (b) Congress didn't give your Beloved Leader carte blanche to murder
>> over 100,000 Iraqis because of WMD
>> (c) "Bringing Freedom to Nation (x)" is now a legitimate cause for
>> the violation/invasion/occupation of a sovereign nation according to
>> US Law (d) What we have in Iraq is democracy
>> (e) Depleted uranium doesn't kill despite the plethora of evidence
>> from Iraq War 1
>> (f) The fact that you have dealt with - and continue to deal with -
>> tyrants the world over should in no way mean that you deal with
>> tyrants the world over - now or ever
>> (g) that criticism of Israeli's policy - universally rejected by
>> every nation on earth but for the US - means that the critic is a nazi
>> (h) that it is better to lose 1500 US soldiers - and have 10,000
>> injured - than bombing from 40,000 feet.
>> (i) that WMD was not the reason for the British and the others of
>> your coalition joining up to your adventure
>> (j) that you never trained Bin Laden
>> (k) that you never trained the mujahadeen in Afghanistan
>> (l) that you never paid for tyrants like Mabuto and the Shah of Iran
>> (m) that you are not paying for tyrants in Uzbekistan, Pakistan, etc
>> etc ...
>>
>> Dude, really - give it up. It's sad having to read this; not even
>> Powell, when he didn't give evidence at the UN about WMD, believed ,
>> know what I mean? You're, like, dude, the last person on earth that
>> still believes ... which is convenient, since the, uhm, "Seig Heil"
>> that the world is listening to is from people like you, jackbooted
>> and marching to the tune which we have all heard before, too many
>> times.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Randy Magruder" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> To begin with there are NO WMD in Iraq, so your justification for
>> war >> was a lie.
>> >
>> > History didn't begin when you woke up this morning. Why don't you
>> > actually go back and read the transcript of Bush's 2002 State of the
>> > Union speech. You'll find a LOT more there than WMD. What you're
>> > saying is only evidence of the fact that the more often and the more
>> > stridently you tell a lie, the more people believe it.
>> > FOrtunately, we have RECORDS of what was said to us....at least for
>> > those of us with the honesty to look at them.
>> >
>> >> Thirdly, if you're so convinced of free Iraq, I suggest a trip to
>> >> Baghdad for details.
>> >
>> > No, actually I suggest YOU go and stand in a square near where 7
>> > million people voted for the first time and start shouting your
>> > views. My guess is you don't get out of the square in one piece.
>> > It's easy to deny freedom to others. You just say that we "don't
>> > have the right to give them democracy". It's another way of saying
>> > 'we got ours, but you can't have yours, because it might make
>> > someone I hate look good'.
>> >
>> >> Fourth, the fact that depleted uranium KILLS is just that - a fact
>> - >> and the fact that you would somehow decide that that FACT is a
>> >> liberal agenda is about as bizarre as saying that evolution is a
>> >> theory (Kansas, maybe?).
>> >
>> > Dude, you have YET to supply any kind of evidence for this depleted
>> > uranium claim.
>> >
>> > >
>> >> More than that, the idea that the US - who armed, encouraged and
>> paid >> for Saddam's war with Iran in which countless millions were
>> gassed >> and killed, are suddenly the bringers of democracy to Iraq
>> is >> laughable.
>> >
>> > Ah, so you live on the planet where no matter what, all the people
>> > you associate with have to be of high character. The realities of
>> > the planet are not so black 'n white. I wish we lived on Planet
>> > utopia and we never had to actually associate with anyone who is
>> > not a saint.
>> >
>> >> And let's not
>> >> forget who armed, trained and paid for Bin Laden and his
>> mujahadeen.
>> >
>> > Blah blah blah. Even if I accept all this drivel, and even if I
>> > accept that the US is all entirely to blame, does that exempt us
>> > from making it right later? Are we to trust the french to make it
>> > right?!
>> >
>> >> And let's not forget who has paid Israel 4 billion dollars a year
>> to >> continue its racist policies against the Palestinians.
>> >
>> > Yeah, those mean Israelis. Why don't they just take their suicide
>> > bombers lying down like good little Jews. Seig Heil, my friend?
>> > (If you didn't notice, the sarcasm is being laid down thickly).
>> >
>> > I'm sure you wish Clinton were back in office, at least he did his
>> > bombing from 40,000 feet, damn the consequences.
>> >
>> > Randy
>