Sorry dude, as of yesterday, I'm done with this useless discussion.
I'm staying on sims from today on. If you want to keep believing the
tripe that you do, go right ahead, it's always amusing to watch 'useful
idiots' work themselves into a lather for the 'cause'.

Randy


alex martini wrote:

> So, in America, it is your claim that you believe that,
> (a) you didn't go to war over WMD
> (b) Congress didn't give your Beloved Leader carte blanche to murder
> over 100,000 Iraqis because of WMD
> (c) "Bringing Freedom to Nation (x)" is now a legitimate cause for
> the violation/invasion/occupation of a sovereign nation according to
> US Law (d) What we have in Iraq is democracy
> (e) Depleted uranium doesn't kill despite the plethora of evidence
> from Iraq War 1
> (f) The fact that you have dealt with - and continue to deal with -
> tyrants the world over should in no way mean that you deal with
> tyrants the world over - now or ever
> (g) that criticism of Israeli's policy - universally rejected by
> every nation on earth but for the US - means that the critic is a nazi
> (h) that it is better to lose 1500 US soldiers - and have 10,000
> injured - than bombing from 40,000 feet.
> (i) that WMD was not the reason for the British and the others of
> your coalition joining up to your adventure
> (j) that you never trained Bin Laden
> (k) that you never trained the mujahadeen in Afghanistan
> (l) that you never paid for tyrants like Mabuto and the Shah of Iran
> (m) that you are not paying for tyrants in Uzbekistan, Pakistan, etc
> etc ...
>
> Dude, really - give it up. It's sad having to read this; not even
> Powell, when he didn't give evidence at the UN about WMD, believed ,
> know what I mean? You're, like, dude, the last person on earth that
> still believes ... which is convenient, since the, uhm, "Seig Heil"
> that the world is listening to is from people like you, jackbooted
> and marching to the tune which we have all heard before, too many
> times.
>
>
>
>
> "Randy Magruder" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> To begin with there are NO WMD in Iraq, so your justification for
> war >> was a lie.
> >
> > History didn't begin when you woke up this morning. Why don't you
> > actually go back and read the transcript of Bush's 2002 State of the
> > Union speech. You'll find a LOT more there than WMD. What you're
> > saying is only evidence of the fact that the more often and the more
> > stridently you tell a lie, the more people believe it.
> > FOrtunately, we have RECORDS of what was said to us....at least for
> > those of us with the honesty to look at them.
> >
> >> Thirdly, if you're so convinced of free Iraq, I suggest a trip to
> >> Baghdad for details.
> >
> > No, actually I suggest YOU go and stand in a square near where 7
> > million people voted for the first time and start shouting your
> > views. My guess is you don't get out of the square in one piece.
> > It's easy to deny freedom to others. You just say that we "don't
> > have the right to give them democracy". It's another way of saying
> > 'we got ours, but you can't have yours, because it might make
> > someone I hate look good'.
> >
> >> Fourth, the fact that depleted uranium KILLS is just that - a fact
> - >> and the fact that you would somehow decide that that FACT is a
> >> liberal agenda is about as bizarre as saying that evolution is a
> >> theory (Kansas, maybe?).
> >
> > Dude, you have YET to supply any kind of evidence for this depleted
> > uranium claim.
> >
> > >
> >> More than that, the idea that the US - who armed, encouraged and
> paid >> for Saddam's war with Iran in which countless millions were
> gassed >> and killed, are suddenly the bringers of democracy to Iraq
> is >> laughable.
> >
> > Ah, so you live on the planet where no matter what, all the people
> > you associate with have to be of high character. The realities of
> > the planet are not so black 'n white. I wish we lived on Planet
> > utopia and we never had to actually associate with anyone who is
> > not a saint.
> >
> >> And let's not
> >> forget who armed, trained and paid for Bin Laden and his
> mujahadeen.
> >
> > Blah blah blah. Even if I accept all this drivel, and even if I
> > accept that the US is all entirely to blame, does that exempt us
> > from making it right later? Are we to trust the french to make it
> > right?!
> >
> >> And let's not forget who has paid Israel 4 billion dollars a year
> to >> continue its racist policies against the Palestinians.
> >
> > Yeah, those mean Israelis. Why don't they just take their suicide
> > bombers lying down like good little Jews. Seig Heil, my friend?
> > (If you didn't notice, the sarcasm is being laid down thickly).
> >
> > I'm sure you wish Clinton were back in office, at least he did his
> > bombing from 40,000 feet, damn the consequences.
> >
> > Randy