On 12/14/2011 01:52 PM, Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
> On 12/14/11 12:47 PM, jim beam wrote:
>> On 12/14/2011 09:28 AM, Howard Lester wrote:
>>> "Doug" wrote
>>>
>>>> I've read from multiple sources and you got it from one source. I'm
>>>> not discounting inside information but that might just be his opinion
>>>> too. For all I know, maybe some of what I read also came from inside
>>>> sources (I don't remember now).
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, my mechanic, who runs a Honda specialist shop (and
>>> works on other brands), and used to work at a Honda dealership, told me
>>> last week that he is finding Honda's reliability has indeed gone
>>> downhill, and therefore he no longer owns Hondas. He recently bought a
>>> Toyota Avalon. I'm starting to look at Camrys now.
>>
>> in my neck of the woods, the honda dealer techs are still driving old
>> integras and ef/eg civics. the toyota dealer techs are driving bmw and
>> mercedes. go figure.
>>
>> my next new car is going to be a vw gti with dsg transmission. maybe not
>> as reliable as my old civics, but honda have lost the plot and i refuse
>> to buy another. not only is their technology sadly outdated, they've
>> completely lost touch with any concept of preserving "customer loyalty".
>>
>>
>
> Am curious-- what technology is outdated?

their transmissions. their engine management. their interiors. their
engines are retrograde with sintered con rods and cast cranks. and
their suspension is retrograde going from wishbone to macpherson. throw
in their losing the plot on the crx and integra, together with lack of
subie or evo killer and you have a pretty sorry story. at least toyota
[toyobaru] are bringing back the hatchiroku.


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