"Brent P" > wrote in message
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> In article >, ZombyWoof wrote:
>
>> can get". You have to remember that it isn't Ford that is setting the
>> market price, it is the market itself.
>
> I am so tired of that saying.... the markets are often manipulated, and
> the GT500 can be used as a text book study of market manipulation and
> artificial scarcity.
>
>> If that dealer is able to move
>> the one it has at $70k it will try to move the next one it gets at
>> $70k. I don't know how much the dealers are paying for the cars when
>> they but them from Ford, but it is safe to assume somewhere less then
>> sticker price.
>
> When each dealer gets one or two, they can up the price a great deal and
> wait for a sucker, the abberation of an uninformed buyer. Not only that,
> but it's not like the dealer down the street or the next town over can
> bring the price down. He's only got a couple to sell too, so even if he
> sells them at sticker, the first dealer can still wait for a sucker or
> someone with more money than sense and wants it now.
>
> Ideal free market conditions would have another dealer being able to come
> in and supply more cars at a lower price to undercut the dealers charging
> $20K over sticker. Ford controls the supply of cars without regard to
> what dealers are charging and thusly the market isn't free. $65K isn't
> the price a free market will bear, but rather the maximum price a
> manipulated market can be pushed to.
>
> This isn't free market setting the price, it's market manipulation and
> artificial scarcity in action. The market is being controlled to create
> conditions that increase prices rather than the ideal free market setting
> of the price.
>


Excellent post! When I went to the Javitts center at the GT500's debut they
said they were going to make as many as the market demanded of these cars. I
was very pleased to hear this as well as them trying to price it at what the
'04 Cobra cost. I figured they can easily do this without the independent
rear suspensions to cut costs. Instead they limited the production which
increases the demand in turn raising the prices. Ford would have been better
off making 20k or more of these cars which isnt much when you think of it as
four per dealership. I bet if they had increased production there would be
much fewer BMW's or Corvettes sold. I just left a local Ford dealership and
asked about the Shelby GT that comes out in January. They said they were
also going to cost $20k over sticker, sigh... Ford needs to change this
mentality people do remember and when the Camaro and Charger come out will
throw it back in their face if they could. IMO that is the only reason why
they are getting away with this, no competition. Personally I would buy a
Corvette over a Shelby GT costing $55k more car for the money and a weight a
sports car should be.

Greed is what is killing this company. A great example of this is buying a
bunch of the European luxury makers and forgetting what Henry Ford believed
in the first place, a car for the common man. I do see the Japanese car
manufacturers making the same mistakes as the American counterparts. They
are cookie cutting cars the same way. Example is that a Camry, no it says
Lexus ES. I also hear with the increased production numbers they are having
much more reliability problems.

Nick