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Old June 30th 07, 09:47 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,alt.autos.toyota.trucks,rec.autos.makers.honda,alt.autos.honda,sci.energy
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Default MIKE Hunter's smaller car thesis??


"Jeff" > wrote in message
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> WickeddollŽ wrote:
>> "Bill Ward"
>> , BobG wrote:
>>>>> I'd also like to know more about what types of accidents were
>>>>> involved,
>>>>> especially for pickups. My guess would be rollovers.
>>>> ====================================
>>>> There was a campaign in the US to get get the good ol boys in pickup
>>>> trucks to use their seatbelts. Maybe they thought their personal
>>>> liberty
>>>> was being encroached on by the intrusive governmant regulations, but
>>>> they
>>>> were dying in disproportionate numbers by flying out during crashes.
>>> Evolution in action.
>>>

>>
>> I live in bubba territory (North Carolina), and we just had two
>> ejection-from-truck accidents, and in both cases, the (belted) passengers
>> lived.

>
> In one case in NE PA, a truck was stopped waiting to turn as a car in the
> other direction was approaching on a four-lane road. A vehicle behind the
> stopped vehicle ran into the stopped truck, flipping the truck. The driver
> of the stopped truck was not wearing a seat belt and was thrown from the
> vehicle. He died.
>
> In another case, a kid about 18 months old was in his buckled-in child
> seat when a t-boned went through a read light and t-boned the van he was
> riding in. His dad was fine. The kid was thrown from the van, with the
> seatbelts ripping through the plastic of the seat. The ambulance people
> were not able to get a tube down his throat to help him breath. That's a
> bad sign. When they were bagging him on the way in, air was coming out
> around his eyes. That's way bad.
>
> The only sign of life he had was that he peed before he was pronounced
> dead (a reflex action by his spinal cord, no doubt).
>
>> I saw a little kid, about a year old, *walking around* in a king cab. I
>> would have reported them, if I wasn't so busy watching that child and
>> fuming.
>>
>> I don't get why *they* don't get it.
>>
>> Natalie

>
> The odds of getting killed or injured on a single trip are small. And, as
> the story about the 18 mo old shows, even when you do the right things, a
> family member can still die. As the adult who was hit from behind shows,
> you need to wear the seat belts all the time, even when stopped, to reduce
> the odds of death the most.
>
> Jeff


Yeah, I know there is the rare instance of restraints either failing, or
even causing the death, but those are exorbitant odds that nobody should try
to dodge.

Natalie


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