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Old May 22nd 07, 04:07 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,alt.autos.toyota.trucks,rec.autos.makers.honda,alt.autos.honda,sci.energy
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Default Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.



Broderick Crawford wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
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>>"Broderick Crawford" > wrote in message
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>>>Useful Info wrote:
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>>>>Read all about it, he http://Muvy.org
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>>>Don't worry, the US will ban it. They do not want to sell less oil.
>>>
>>>

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>>What on earth makes you think that? Zero consumption vehicles, like
>>bicycles, are popular and encouraged in the US. I have owned several myself
>>over nearly half a century and have never encountered a "not enough oil"
>>goon squad.
>>
>>The consumption would not be an issue, but crash-worthiness and emissions
>>are showstoppers. ZEV and P-ZEV vehicles are in great demand by regulators,
>>especially in California, but AFAIK diesels are still not available in
>>passenger cars there because of the emissions. The safety info in the
>>referenced article is not encouraging either; side impact standards
>>(mandatory in the US) appear to be lacking: "as safe as a GT sports car
>>registered for racing". That's damning with faint praise; if they could say
>>it met US safety standards they certainly would have said so. Fuel economy
>>really doesn't matter to grieving families.
>>
>>Mike
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>>

>
> **** safety, Drive right and you won't need it. Safety is just a
> protection scheme invented by the American car companies to keep out the
> competition. They WILL NOT make fuel efficient vehicles. Hybrids should
> get over 100mpg by rights. Americans don't make a single car that gets
> 50mpg. Europe makes several, every car company makes 2 or 3 that get 50
> to 80mpg. Diesel hybrids get 120 to 150mpg. The US will avoid these.
> Give me a choice, my motorcycle don't have air bags, seat belts or crash
> test and works just fine. I want a car WITHOUT seat belts and air bags.
> I want to choose my safety devices, I don't want you to. We don't need
> forced communist compliance at all.



I tend to agree as all the regulation that currently exists has totally
got out of hand.

Life has risks. It's that simple.

When one looks at the weight of today's cars, one common fact comes out;
Weight gain is due mostly to safety considerations.

My old '83 Honda Civic FE gets over 40 mpg in mixed driving, has
functioning brakes, seat belts, horn, wipers and lights. That's all the
"safety" related equipment that's really needed.

The BIG problem is the NUT behind the wheel. Hard to fix that...

JT

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