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Old January 7th 15, 12:04 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
Alan Baker
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On 2015-01-06 23:51:32 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher said:

> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 6:40:22 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2015-01-06 23:33:09 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher said:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:20:37 PM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most>
>>> > Humble Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:36:56 PM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most>
>>>> >> Humble Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-01-06 14:52:22 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don't you ask the city of Miami Beach what they are? Do you think>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> > > > they'll bother to reply?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of this changes the fact that YOU personally not knowing what>
>>>>>> >>>> they> > > are or why they are there does not show evidence that
>>>>>> they> >>>> are the> > > result of corruption in any way at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think they even care what I think. I care what people think.>
>>>>> >>> Anyone who's honest enough thinks that's corruption. Actually you
>>>>> are> >>> the first person who doesn't want to see corruption.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we don't know of any advantage, while we see the tire markings all>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> > > > over it, we can take the freedom to call them stupid. Let
>>>>>>> them> >>>>> tell me> > > > what they are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. There are tire marks in lots of places that are not "stupid".
>>>>>
>>>>> The are plenty of tire marks and dents on it, which means either the>
>>>>> >>> engineer is stupid or the drivers are stupid.> >> > >> > > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>> Standing dirty water are another byproduct of these islands:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac18/thetibetanmonkey/CORRUPTION/KIMG0003_zpsbvhytrmp.jpg>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> > > >> > > >> > > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac18/thetibetanmonkey/CORRUPTION/KIMG0002_zps98cwkvxg.jpg>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> > > >> > > >> > > > I guess the engineers know how to dump money
>>>>>>> down> >>>>> the drain but not the water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, doing something imperfectly is not evidence that the idea is stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only it's imperfect, it's unnecessary. "Whatever is not necessary,>
>>>>> >>> it's unnecessary."
>>>>
>>>> The mayor is making big promises but I'm not sitting and getting fat>
>>>> >> waiting for it anymore. We are moving but leaving a property behind.
>>>> If> >> he fulfills his promises, I'll be the first one surprised.
>>>>
>>>> "Miami Beach Mayor Wants to Build a Bike Path From South Pointe Park
>>>> to> >> Fort Lauderdale"
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2014/11/miami_beach_mayor_wants_international_university_c ampus_and_bike_path_to_br.php>
>>>> >>> >> > His patter of behavior has been the opposite of his claims.
>>>> He's been> > cutting down trees or moving them from one location to
>>>> another rather> > remote location, removing the grass that holds
>>>> together the sand dunes> > --a natural barrier against hurricanes, we
>>>> were lucky this year we> > didn't have any-- and --my favorite-- kept a
>>>> magnificent club for the> > elderly under permanent state of
>>>> construction.
>>>
>>> http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac18/thetibetanmonkey/CORRUPTION/KIMG0016_zpsiqftpqi9.jpg>
>>> >>> How does this picture prove the mayor had anything to do with it?

>
> Because he took over said property after a long construction process
> and promised to open it himself, and he has done nothing.


So you claim...

>
> That's a major landmark in this crappy town he couldn't miss. What he
> did miss was all the litter and the homeless lying around. He spoke
> about the homeless and said was considering certain solutions. "Coming
> soon to a theater near you." I'm learning he opened some theater
> around, so that's very appropriate.
>>
>>>
>>> Why the elderly? Because they vote. One elderly lady complained to him>
>>> > her bike had been stolen, he brought her one. Another lady got a> >
>>> surprising return of her taxes --100 bucks. Mr Nice Guy, so to speak.

>>
>> So you're claiming both that he panders to the elderly and he antagonizes them?

>
> He's not antagonizing them in any way. He gave them --you'll love
> this-- a free trolley bus. You want cyclists to pay their way, but the
> elderly get a free ride.


But then why won't he provide the club?

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