On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:00:59 -0400, somebody >
wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:47:05 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
> wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> somebody > wrote:
>>
>>> I have that whining/grumbling noise on a 2005 Ion-2 with 5-speed.
>>> Something like the sound of coarse snow tires, but the summer tires
>>> are on.
>>>
>>> Bit it doesn't change when turning, like an earlier bad bearing on our
>>> SL-2. What could this be? If it is a bad bearing, then which one? I
>>> tried jacking it up and turning the wheels by hand, but could not
>>> figure it out.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>>You should be able to feel the vibrations of a bad bearing when you jack
>>up the car and turn the wheel by hand. Also, try rotating the wheel
>>against the axle -- out of plane movement. You may also have loose lug
>>nuts.
>
>I tried rotating the wheel when jacked up, could not tell which side.
>The lug nuts were just tightened to 90-95 ft-lbs.
>
>I will try jiggling the wheel next.

No free play on the wheels. Jacked up the back and it isn't the back
wheels. They turn freely.

There isn't much noise until 20 MPH or so. It's still there with
engine off and transmission in neutral.

Still can't tell which side it is.