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Old April 1st 10, 03:00 AM posted to alt.autos.ford,alt.autos.bmw
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Default Electronic Throttle

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:54:43 -0400, OldHarleyRider
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>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:52:32 -0400, OldHarleyRider
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It is amazing how many people have posted in response to the Electronic
>>> Throttle (drive by wire)problem, or sudden acceleration, or unintended
>>> acceleration. I noticed that all the posters mention either their
>>> educational background or the amount of research they have done. I am
>>> surprised that Albert Einstein hasn't come out of his grave to respond.
>>>
>>> I have not read one post that mentioned a personal experience with the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> I have had a personal experience with unintended acceleration. My wife
>>> and I purchased a 2006 Mustang GT coupe in October of 2006. Two months
>>> later the Mustang went full throttle all by itself.
>>>
>>> We visited a friend the Saturday before Christmas to see his light
>>> display. I pulled into his driveway and parked there for about 20
>>> minutes (with the engine running) to look at all the lights. He did
>>> have hoops stretched across the driveway with all kinds of flashing
>>> lights. Upon leaving, put the car into reverse and backed out, then into
>>> drive to go forward. When I put it into drive the throttle went wide
>>> open all by itself (and yes my foot was on the brake, not thee
>>> accelerator). He lives on a corner, so I had to make a left 100' from
>>> his driveway, and a right turn at a corner 300' away. I was too busy
>>> trying to stop the car, and steer the car to make any other moves. It
>>> was the wildest 6-8 second ride in my life. I did in the process put my
>>> other foot on the brake also, to no avail. Total damage was $20,000.00
>>> across 2 lawns, hit a Cadillac and ran into a garage (moved the garage 6
>>> inches off its foundation).
>>>
>>> I don't know why these malfunctions (crashes) of the drive by wire
>>> system are a surprise. The engine controls are computer controlled, I
>>> repeat, computer controlled. How many times in the past has your
>>> computer crashed, or locked up, or malfunctioned.
>>>
>>> We did get rid of the Mustang, and I will not buy another vehicle
>>> without checking under the hood. If the vehicle does not have a cable or
>>> linkage controlling the throttle body I won't buy it....
>>>
>>>

>> Be prepared to buy older used cars in the near future - DBW is going
>> to be almost universal within a couple of years. You can bet on it.
>>

>I can believe it. The manufacturers don't learn from their mistakes.
>Can you imagine Mercedes had a brake by wire system... It didn't last
>long....

They couldn't sell it in North America or half the rest of the world
where- up 'till now, an "physical connection" needs to be between the
driver and both brakes and steering. - I guess the cable operated
parking brake makes the grade for the connection for brakes. (I guess
hydraulic is still 'physical too) - but for steering it still requires
a mechanical connection - hydraulic remote steering doesn't make the
grade for on-road vehicles - although my brother says the "rubber
railroad" articulated trucks - cement mixers etc - are fully hydraulic
steering - - - -.
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