"Joey Tribiani" > wrote in message
news:23Gee.2444$sy6.1234@lakeread04...
>
> "Dan Smith" > wrote in message
> news:z2zee.58865$WI3.20397@attbi_s71...
> >
> > This is also what happens when you step on a balloon only you reduce
the
> > volume for a fixed amount of a gas (the air) by distorting the shape of
> the
> > balloon until the pressure is so great and the skin has stretched so far
> > that some part of the skin of the balloon ruptures.
>
> this is not correct...in the case of the balloon you are indeed
distorting,
> but the balloon stretches so the internal "volume' is unchanged...that is
my
> hangup....you seem to know what is going on, and you probably know your
> original statement was a "stretch" to say the least, you are just trying
> your damnedest to not admit it...
>
> >
> > When you add weight to a car you distort the shape of the tire. This
> > distortion reduced the volume inside the tire. The tire stretches some
to
> > help keep the pressure differential reduced but it can't stretch enough
to
> > totally compensate so the pressure inside the tire increases.
>
> there is no pressure increase.... you would have to overload the tire
beyond
> what was the subject at hand to *ever* decrease the inside
> volume....period... you won't make the tire smaller...it will burst
first...
>
> >
> > When you have a fixed amount of gas (in this case air) in a container
(the
> > tire) and reduce the volume of the container the pressure goes up. This
> is
> > why the tire pressure goes up as the weight it is supporting increases.
>
> again you seem to have the theory, but you are still not quite there....
my
> tires on my pu contain 50psi cold.....even when i slap a couple tons of
> gravel on the back it still has 50psi cold.... this is not just me
talking,
> it is from training and actually measuring tire pressures...something you
> have done neither of...
>
>
> >
> > You already admitted the shape of the tire distorts. Now all you have
to
> > wrap your brain around is the fact that when you distort the shape of
the
> > tire you also reduce the volume inside the tire and the pressure
> increases.
>
> distorting the shape has exactly NOTHING to do with it....if you load the
> tire(which is so far from your original, yet brilliant, statement it
apples
> to oranges) the air is displaced locally in the tire...this causes the
> pressure to move inside the tire...so localized inside the tire you could
> have more pressure but the overall read at the guage is the same...wrap
your
> "brain"(yeah right) around that....or get educated on tires....
>
> > I'm not going to go into the calculus supporting this. You're just
going
> to
> > have to research that yourself.
> >
>
> no need....i breezed through calculus and "tire school"..... you can shove
> your "opinions" based on **** you don't know about, or what you *think*
> would happen, straight up your ass.... i have BTDT with the training and
the
> experience....
>
>

You breezed through tire school? Was that breeze caused by your snoring?

You said, "distorting the shape has exactly NOTHING to do with it...." That
means that you believe that when you have a fixed amount of a substance in a
container and reduce the volume of the container the pressure stays the
same. ARE YOU JOKING??? Have you never heard of an air compressor? Have
you never heard of an internal combustion engine? Have you never heard of
an air conditioner? Have you never heard of ...

Never mind. You're just making stuff up. You can't really believe this
crap you're spewing forth and you can't really be this stupid. You're just
messing with me.