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Old August 24th 05, 06:43 AM
Michael Johnson, PE
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Hank wrote:
> Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
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>>One day people will put all this together and the politicians will be
>>held accountable at the ballot box. It is happening gradually right
>>now. Why do you think the Republicans have retained the House, Senate
>>and more often than not the Presidency? The biggest reason is they are
>>the only party that is willing to cut taxes.

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> The problem is that they cut taxes disproportionately in
> favor of corporations and the wealthiest few, which is exactly
> the wrong thing to do. Not only do we have a record deficit,
> but our local taxes are skyrocketing to make up for the federal
> cuts in state aid. Bottom line is that corporations and the wealthiest
> few are taxed less and the middle class is taxed more.


Hank, did you (or anyone) ever get a paycheck from a poor person? I
didn't think so. Do you think all rich people are evil, dishonest,
lazy, uncaring, cheating *******s? If you do you're a loon. Do you
think the government (at all levels) wastes a huge amount of our tax
dollars? If you don't think so then get a clue. Do you think the
solution to every problem is to throw money at it by taxing the living
**** out of the wealthy and everyone making a decent living. If you do
then please feel free to donate 80% of YOUR income to the IRS and don't
presume you should control my income.

The State/municipal governments are using the reduction in federal
funding to dishonestly justify increased state taxes. Want to know what
happened in my state of Virginia? Let me tell you anyway. They
screamed the sky was falling two years ago and our newly elected
DEMOCRATIC governor got a substantial tax hike enacted. Now they have a
BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS that they are just itching to spend. Turns out
there was no pending economic disaster after all. Now why that is?
Turns out the federal tax cuts improved the State's economy much faster
than our governor expected, or wanted. Now the debate is whether they
should return the excess funds back to the tax payer. You can probably
guess what I think they should do.

Want to know why the low income people can't get anymore income tax
reductions? It's because they don't pay any income tax! You know how
the government gets their pound of flesh from them anyway? It's through
personal property/property tax increases, gasoline taxes,
cigarette/alcohol taxes and lottery tickets to name just a few ways.

Over taxing the wealthy will screw our economy in ways you can't
imagine. They are the engine that makes capitalism work. If you are
for high tax rates on on any one group then all you want for this
country is socialism. If there is one thing we have learned without
question through our experiences of the 20th century it is that
socialist governments don't work. IMO, removing incentives goes against
nature and what drives us humans to succeed and advance. If you really
want to help the poor get the government off their backs and quit making
them dependent on government handouts. Liberals know that keeping the
poor dependent and ignorant is their only hope of retaining them as a
voting block. I know it is hard for you to read these things but
sometimes the truth stings like a MF.

>>People can't understand why there property taxes are sky
>>rocketing when inflation isn't.

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> The bu$h regime is cutting federal aid to states to help
> fund obscene tax cuts for the elite and it's war profiteering
> in Iraq. The tax cuts and corporate welfare handouts have to be
> covered by increases local taxes. Meanwhile jobs are leaving,
> wages are stagnant, and health care costs are skyrocketing...


You need to get up with current events and educate yourself on the
economic conditions of many of the states. They are reaping the rewards
from the bu$h regime's tax cuts. They are no where near economic
meltdown. You need to get a new mantra because this "jobs are leaving,
wages are stagnant" droning just doesn't bite anymore. Fact is the
unemployment rate is better than at ANYTIME during the Clinton
administration. The economy is booming in case you haven't heard. The
wages in my industry (land development, engineering consulting,
construction etc.) are up almost 100% in the last 5-7 years. This has
happened in many other industries.

I'm going to give you a little history lesson in economics. Back in the
late 1970s and early 1980s the U.S. transcended to a service based
economy. You need to read up on what that means. Basically, the
majority of jobs in the country provide services and not manufacturing.
It is a natural progression of a growing economy and an improving
standard of living. Basically, we can no longer afford our own labor
cost. Now people like you think this is a bad thing or that no matter
what the cost to the consumer we need to keep mundane manufacturing jobs
inside the USA. There are plenty of high paying jobs available to the
people (and it really isn't that many people) who had their job
transfered to a country with less labor costs. You know what they have
to do though? Get off their rear ends and get training to be qualified
to fill those positions. In the end they will have a better income with
much better job security. The rest of the country's consumers can't,
and shouldn't, be required to pay outrageous prices for underwear, blue
jeans, computer components, knick knacks, automobiles etc. just so these
people can retain their overpaying jobs. If you want to see what job
protection causes just look at the stagnant economic growth in Europe
and France and Germany, in particular.

You need to accept that liberalism is hitting a dead end in this
country. Your ideas are basically a sugar coated minor variation of
socialism and communism. You and your cronies biggest problem is that
you can't tell us what you really stand for because is would finish your
group as a political entity. The days when liberals controlled the
avenues of information to the masses are over. Now that nearly every
person can hear both sides (liberal and conservative) and make their own
choices your side has been trying to find ways to keep your real agenda
secret. Liberals can't stand that the masses just don't swallow all
your propaganda without question like in the past. You and your cronies
have no clue how rabid your side looks by having Ted Kennedy, Cindy
Sheehan, Micheal Moore, Barbra Streisand, Sean Penn, among others,
making complete asses of themselves. All this completely ignorant,
illogical and impossible babble you rant over in this newsgroup just
makes your side look totally incapable of governing this country. As
far as I'm concerned I want you and your buddies to keep doing exactly
what you have been doing. It is the best way I know to keep you wacked
out, far left liberals out of elected government.

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