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Old June 25th 05, 10:42 PM
Bret Knol
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"Bret Knol" > wrote in message
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> "Bret Knol" > wrote in message
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>> "PC Medic" > wrote in message
>> news:Kidte.89151$yV4.30309@okepread03...
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>>> "Bret Knol" > wrote in message
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>>> > Hi all!
>>> >
>>> > Two days ago I replaced the cap, rotor and wires on my '99 Dodge

>> Caravan,
>>> > 3.0. (38,000 miles) Today, the Service Engine Soon light came on.
>>> > Since

>> it
>>> > is still covered by the Extended Warranty, I made an appointment to
>>> > have
>>> > it looked at, along with having the clockspring recall done on Monday.
>>> > I double and triple checked my work, looking to see if maybe I
>>> > incorrectly wired the cylinders (this checks OK) or made some other

>> basic
>>> > mistake, but could not find any problem. The van seems to run fine. I

>> may
>>> > go up to the nearest AutoZone and see if they will scan the codes for
>>> > me
>>> > to see what the problem may be.
>>> > My question to the group is: Does anyone know of a common
>>> > problem/error/reason why the light should come on so soon after doing

>> the
>>> > wires/cap/rotor? Or, is this probably just coincidence?
>>> > I know it is difficult/impossible to say without knowing the codes.
>>> > I
>>> > would just like to know if anyone might have some insight on this.
>>> >
>>>
>>> I am assuming the car still runs without issue and keep in mind that

>> without
>>> seeing the codes it is just a guess at this point.
>>> With that said (and though it would be quite early on), I would make my
>>> first one O2 Sensor.
>>> A couple other responses I have seen regarding low end plug wires I
>>> would
>>> find doubtful. One, if this were the cause there would most certainly be
>>> a
>>> change in how well the car ran (hesitation, rough idle, something) and I

>> do
>>> not see where it would set a code. Now the possibility of a BAD
>>> wire/plug
>>> could cause this I suppose, but again, you would notice a difference in

>> the
>>> way the vehicle ran and you make no mention of this.
>>>
>>> Try pulling the codes from the ignition switch (On, Off, On, Off, On).

>> This
>>> should cause a sequence of grouped flashes of the check engine light.
>>> Each
>>> group separated by a short pause. For example: 1, 2, 2, 1, 5, 5, would

>> work
>>> out to code 12, 21, 55
>>> 12 = PCM power loss or battery recently disconnected (tends to show
>>> with
>>> other codes for odd reasons)
>>> 21 = O2 Sensor
>>> 55 = End of codes
>>>
>>> Have you double checked all the wire harnesses around where you were

>> working
>>> to be sure you did not knock one loose while doing the tune-up?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> Yes, the van runs quite well now.
>> Yes, I did check the wiring around where I was working, just to make sure
>> I
>> didn't do something stupid, and found nothing out of place. Of course,
>> this
>> does not guarantee that I didn't do something stupid, but if I did, I
>> can't
>> find it.
>>
>> I will check around the O2 sensor and see if I can find anything amiss.
>> Failing this, I will, no doubt, find out tomorrow when I bring it in to
>> the
>> dealer for warranty and recall repair.
>>
>> I was under the impression that the on-off-on-off-on-off did not work on
>> after the '96 model year. (It works fine on my '92 Dynasty). Am I wrong
>> in
>> this assumption? I'll have to check it out.
>>
>>

>
> Well, got a call back from the dealer. The light was set because the
> cooling fan relay had shorted. OK, so it was not anything I did, but just
> a co-incidence. The bummer part about this is that this part is not
> covered by my extended warranty, and I have to pay to get it fixed.
> ($275.00).
> My next investment will be in a OBD II code scanner and a FSM for this
> vehicle.
>


Well, today, 6 days after it was "repaired" the light came back on again,
and the radiator fans don't work, and the engine overheats. Last time they
replaced a fuse ( part number 4868008-AA) and the radiator fan relay (Part
# 4707286-AF). I have another appointment at 7:00 AM Monday. I wonder what
they will do this time?
Anyone here have any thoughts?


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